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In reply to the discussion: I keep getting told woo is "harmless..." [View all]SidDithers
(44,333 posts)89. I posted about the horrific case of Alex Spourdalakis some time ago...
but it bears repeating when DU anti-science brigade goes on another of their 'woo is great!!' kicks.
Orac, who is a real cancer doctor and researcher, has posted about the case extensively at his Respectful Insolence blog at scienceblogs.
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2013/06/14/autism-biomed-and-murder-of-alex-spourdalakis/
Convinced that Alex Spourdalakis severe autism was growing worse, his mother and caregiver allegedly planned for at least a week to kill the River Grove teenager and themselves.
But the alleged murder plot initially went awry last weekend when the stocky 14-year-old didnt succumb to an overdose of his prescription medications.
After waiting for several hours, Dorothy Spourdalakis, fatally stabbed her 225-pound son four times with a kitchen knife, then cut his wrist so deeply she nearly severed his hand, Cook County prosecutors said Wednesday.
His caregiver, Jolanta Agata Skrodzka, later stabbed the family cat with the same knife, then washed the utensil and put it back in a butchers block, prosecutors said.
Their suicide pact never succeeded: Both women took drug overdoses, then locked themselves in the bedroom with the slain teenager.
They were found semi-conscious inside the second-floor apartment on Sunday afternoon when Alexs father and uncle came to check on the teen, prosecutors said as the women appeared in court to face first-degree murder charges.
But the alleged murder plot initially went awry last weekend when the stocky 14-year-old didnt succumb to an overdose of his prescription medications.
After waiting for several hours, Dorothy Spourdalakis, fatally stabbed her 225-pound son four times with a kitchen knife, then cut his wrist so deeply she nearly severed his hand, Cook County prosecutors said Wednesday.
His caregiver, Jolanta Agata Skrodzka, later stabbed the family cat with the same knife, then washed the utensil and put it back in a butchers block, prosecutors said.
Their suicide pact never succeeded: Both women took drug overdoses, then locked themselves in the bedroom with the slain teenager.
They were found semi-conscious inside the second-floor apartment on Sunday afternoon when Alexs father and uncle came to check on the teen, prosecutors said as the women appeared in court to face first-degree murder charges.
This is where woo and lack of critical thinking can lead. And that's why woo is dangerous.
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Big Blue Marble
Dec 2013
#3
Medical mistakes kill people, "alternative" medicine just kills them outright.
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2013
#23
Mainstream medicine is responsible for far more injuries and death than alternative medicine.
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#28
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#110
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Uncle Joe
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I keep forgetting is cannabis "woo" or not? When did it go off the "woo" list?
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