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davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
46. There is usually evidence in those other cases
Mon Dec 2, 2013, 10:46 PM
Dec 2013

A rape is many times a case of "he said, she said" with no other witnesses or evidence. So the only thing a jury has to go on is credibility of the man and the woman.

That's why many of these cases never make it to trial. All it takes is one juror to have a "reasonable doubt" that the woman is lying and the case is over.

Like I said...yes, the man gets the benefit of the doubt in such cases. Why? Because he's the defendant. The defendant gets the benefit of the doubt. It's the prosecution's job to prove a crime occurred AND that a law was broken, AND that the defendant is guilty of breaking that law.
I understand this puts a female accuser at an extreme disadvantage, but this is how our justice system works. You need proof to convict somebody.

It's a bit of a bug in the system. But 2% of rape accusations are false. So if you are going to change this system, you need to change it in a way that assures that those 2% are protected. I don't want anyone innocent going to prison. That's just as much as an injustice as a rapist walking free.

Here among MidWest fundies the female submission ideal still reigns. I can't remember which IrishAyes Nov 2013 #1
wow. I experience it at work as well. One of the execs has a habit of doing this: PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #2
I thought Why Syzygy Nov 2013 #8
This is a powerful article. Thank you for posting it. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #3
It put a hole in my gut. n/t Why Syzygy Nov 2013 #9
Thanks for post! burrowowl Nov 2013 #4
martin luther, et tu? i knew. and then men ask.... why, are women so angry. why men, would we be seabeyond Nov 2013 #5
K & R Quantess Nov 2013 #6
I wonder if it is getting better or worse el_bryanto Nov 2013 #7
We've gone backwards. Why Syzygy Nov 2013 #10
How have we gone backwords - or from what period have we gone backwords? el_bryanto Nov 2013 #12
men in public, running for election, on the house floor, on political radio, media, the net, speak seabeyond Nov 2013 #17
I have to admit I steered clear of that Porn thread el_bryanto Nov 2013 #18
the point. lack of respect toward women like never before. that is what we are living. backlash. seabeyond Nov 2013 #19
Maybe I'm too intellectual about this issue; but I guess I ask again el_bryanto Nov 2013 #20
it is pretty damn pervasive when everywhere a woman looks we are being fed this garbage. seabeyond Nov 2013 #21
That is true el_bryanto Nov 2013 #22
Same is happening here with calling rape victims xmas74 Nov 2013 #25
i know xmas. it is in my view, but, i cannot hit that one too. attack of women everywhere seabeyond Nov 2013 #26
The multiple rape threads on here that have received so much negative feedback. xmas74 Nov 2013 #27
you had better start educating and edcating hard. help her find her voice. us women are taught to seabeyond Nov 2013 #28
It's already started, xmas74 Nov 2013 #29
absolutely. they say these things cause they know the girl will be quiet. how embarrassing for her seabeyond Nov 2013 #31
She's tall for her age and she started developing earlier than her classmates. xmas74 Nov 2013 #32
Two good articles.. Why Syzygy Nov 2013 #35
bookmarking to read in the morning. do nOT let me forget. excellent. and thank you. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #39
it is a backlash against women becoming financially independent. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #16
Teaching young girls to feel competent and BE competent Why Syzygy Nov 2013 #11
I LOVE this! Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #24
I Why Syzygy Nov 2013 #36
yes SOME men. do come in here and explain to us how we have no problems today and angry? ye old hags seabeyond Nov 2013 #13
I blame your hysterical uteruses. Orrex Nov 2013 #14
I blame your hysterical uteruses. seabeyond Nov 2013 #15
Aw, shucks! Orrex Nov 2013 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Why Syzygy Nov 2013 #34
In my line of work men and women are 100% equal. So so rare. riderinthestorm Nov 2013 #23
. lame54 Nov 2013 #30
Women's credibility is questioned just as much as a man's davidn3600 Nov 2013 #37
Reporting false rape Why Syzygy Nov 2013 #38
The man gets the benefit of the doubt because he's innocent until proven guilty davidn3600 Nov 2013 #40
Yes, of course... Why Syzygy Nov 2013 #41
How often are male defendants asked about irrelevant past sexual experiences in court...? LanternWaste Dec 2013 #42
Exactly. Why Syzygy Dec 2013 #44
Really? gollygee Dec 2013 #45
There is usually evidence in those other cases davidn3600 Dec 2013 #46
are you actually inferring a woman's prior sex life is "evidence" of some sort, David? bettyellen Dec 2013 #47
I didnt say that... davidn3600 Dec 2013 #48
I want the jury to NOT have any opportunity to know or judge her prior sex life. I would like bettyellen Dec 2013 #49
Police & prosecutors would never dare suggest CrispyQ Feb 2014 #51
K&R ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #43
This: CrispyQ Feb 2014 #50
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