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131. good of them; it should be sex blind

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 07:17 AM

Dec 2013

a young mother knows how to deal with her baby apparatus.

Both sexes when young should help old people.

Chivalry can die for all I care. When I was young and strong there were always men trying to "help" now that I'm middle aged, not so much. Hmmmm. Maybe it wasn't about "help."

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over one third of men would never help a woman struggling with a baby buggy on stairs [View all] Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 OP

Blame cries of "Benevolent Sexism". nt Bonobo Dec 2013 #1

bullshit. are men are so afraid to hear "no thanks" that it gives them an excuse to be petty jerks? bettyellen Dec 2013 #17

It's called approach anxiety. Guys get gun shy after being rejected by women over and over for just grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #109

what has that got to do with asking to help anyone ? i get guys asking all the time JI7 Dec 2013 #112

they are afraid their "grand gesture" is correctly seen as a pick up technique... and not bettyellen Dec 2013 #117

"Correctly" in your sentence was the mistake. Bonobo Dec 2013 #126

when you have two free hands and someone swoops in to "help" and then follow you to chat bettyellen Dec 2013 #191

If offers of help are generally pick up techniques, maybe one third aren't interested. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #225

not at all Jeff. I clearly said it's only annoying when it is obvious that help isn't needed. bettyellen Dec 2013 #229

You appear to want it both ways lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #235

never said A, only B. to differentiate the situations and motives. bettyellen Dec 2013 #238

If you ask, I'm happy to help. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #243

not a remarkable sense of self worth, as mine is not tied into my attractiveness. but WOW bettyellen Dec 2013 #248

I guess you'd be disappointed if I held the door for you.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #293

so- because I say I think it's creepy and manipulative, that means I secretly want the attention? bettyellen Dec 2013 #297

It's obvious you think every guy holding the door for you has some other motive ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #299

no, I clearly said it is obvious WHEN it is a ploy because they follow you and converse.... bettyellen Dec 2013 #303

Zzzzzz.....MRA ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #304

re read your patronizing crap to a woman who is not afraid to give you her POV.... bettyellen Dec 2013 #305

I mean.... woolldog Dec 2013 #316

the big deal is these outsized reactions- with men claiming trauma over getting a "No thanks" bettyellen Dec 2013 #331

Then perhaps it falls upon the person in need of assistance frustrated_lefty Dec 2013 #139

if you can't tell when people genuinely need help, maybe you need some yourself... bettyellen Dec 2013 #194

Not necessary. frustrated_lefty Dec 2013 #276

DAFT WENCH! Ahh, your true colors are showing now. Gaslighting and sexist BS in two words or less. bettyellen Dec 2013 #281

it's true . women have said no to me for all sorts of reasons so i dont care if another one says leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #158

smart thinking- you should actually respect others feeling about being hugged! bettyellen Dec 2013 #192

no one has "dinged" me for bless you but people here complain of having others saying bless u leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #258

you sound really put out by this revelation- that others' feelings should be respected? bettyellen Dec 2013 #280

You shoudn't let what you read here influence when it comes to what women want. A small group sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #332

the OP is about weak men with bruised egos- not weak women, LOL. bettyellen Dec 2013 #334

Most female DUers do not generally agree with them. kcr Dec 2013 #350

LOL, maybe the worst post this week! Congrats! WTF. Logical Dec 2013 #169

my old dad would have carried all of them on his little back. every man in my family was roguevalley Dec 2013 #314

LOL Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #270

I smell bovine excrement MattBaggins Dec 2013 #2

Yup Boom Sound 416 Dec 2013 #4

Yep, and it's already starting to fly in this thread, too n/t kcr Dec 2013 #7

No kidding. K&R for your post. nt TBF Dec 2013 #163

those acts of courtesy Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #3

Bullshit n/t kcr Dec 2013 #5

search.. Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #6

I remember those threads. Full of bullshit then, too. n/t kcr Dec 2013 #8

it was no one here obsessed with doors but dudes looking for a reason to insult feminist for bettyellen Dec 2013 #13

They've been told that 100 times BainsBane Dec 2013 #66

real men help Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #76

people with manners help BainsBane Dec 2013 #77

Just because you dont like it AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #102

I open doors for prior, too and I'm a woman Iris Dec 2013 #125

Exactly! I find more women opening doors for men. See, I think it's rude to allow doors to shut in Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2013 #133

what about old men? treestar Dec 2013 #134

How does one accumulate 20k posts in two years? Soundman Dec 2013 #150

Really not too out of the ordinary boston bean Dec 2013 #152

This message was self-deleted by its author Soundman Dec 2013 #154

A snarky question gets a snarky reply BainsBane Dec 2013 #160

Or deflection, n/t. Soundman Dec 2013 #241

pardon me BainsBane Dec 2013 #271

Hey Soundman BlueToTheBone Dec 2013 #201

Thanks, Soundman Dec 2013 #237

Don't let BlueToTheBone Dec 2013 #254

Have fun with the snarky replies... NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #246

He doesn't ask the male poster because sexism Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #162

It's even tougher when you have a sock. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #290

Some people have alot to say. And alot of free time. CANDO Dec 2013 #341

Same here Cando. Soundman Dec 2013 #342

i hold doors open for anybody, it's simply courtesy. only got yelled at one time, by dionysus Dec 2013 #177

Exactly! rudolph the red Dec 2013 #211

and it didn't scar you for life, right? anyone getting so insulted it effects them- something else bettyellen Dec 2013 #213

this lady actually yelled at me, so i was mad for about 2 minutes :P no lasting damage. dionysus Dec 2013 #239

well, if you like a lot of human interaction- you will get an odd unpleasant one now and again bettyellen Dec 2013 #242

ctually, real people (rather than specifically males) help those in need (regardless of gender) LanternWaste Dec 2013 #253

BINGO!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2013 #132

that's one perspective RainDog Dec 2013 #200

I have no idea what you're talking about. But it's sort of derailing the topic and broad brushing bettyellen Dec 2013 #207

LOL RainDog Dec 2013 #223

with total broad brushing bullshit, yep. bettyellen Dec 2013 #226

you, as you demonstrate, are part of the problem n/t RainDog Dec 2013 #228

Some women just don't like men, for whatever reason AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #272

Ha ha, is this performance art, or the 1950's? bettyellen Dec 2013 #283

It's the real world AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #325

and there are men who don't like women BainsBane Dec 2013 #284

they like them grateful and quiet, LOL. bettyellen Dec 2013 #287

Yeah, I have noticed that BainsBane Dec 2013 #288

Of course there are AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #326

Threads invented by anti-femiinists BainsBane Dec 2013 #64

Get the high boots out MattBaggins Dec 2013 #10

are men too stupid to ask first, if someone needs help? the article makes it appear so.... bettyellen Dec 2013 #9

No sorry we are not all jerks. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #14

She's talking about the article kcr Dec 2013 #16

tell that to someone who said that they are all jerks, LOL. bettyellen Dec 2013 #19

I am sorry then if I misinterpeted your response. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #20

no problem, I have seen men get angry over not getting a reaction of gratitude when you didn't bettyellen Dec 2013 #83

I guess I seem like a calm and non threatening person because I never get a nasty no thank you. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #84

I think it has to do with being empathetic and aware of others needs too. bettyellen Dec 2013 #91

Thanks bettyellen. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #95

not at all! I knew you'd listen instead of using my usage of "fuck" as an excuse to be a jerk. bettyellen Dec 2013 #97

Most women are once bitten, twice shy on this issue KitSileya Dec 2013 #128

I don't know how many times I have been viciously insulted or threatened for turning down a drink bettyellen Dec 2013 #198

"Grow the fuck up".. pipoman Dec 2013 #28

If someone - anyone- cannot take "No" as an answer without anger- they have big problems bettyellen Dec 2013 #49

With your attitude, I wouldn't help you. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #52

how would you know what my attitude is toward those who are embittered due to their sense of bettyellen Dec 2013 #61

Telling people to "grow the fuck up" = bad attitude. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #63

thinking you are entitled to other people's admiration or gratitude= totally pathetic bettyellen Dec 2013 #69

Ya got that, bettyellen? Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #122

Problem solved. I love how the people here defending this crap assume I wouldn't ask when needed bettyellen Dec 2013 #196

The horror BainsBane Dec 2013 #301

And people who can't respond to other people's pipoman Dec 2013 #74

I'm not angry at all, these "scared" men are fucking pitiful. and I have a filthy mouth. bettyellen Dec 2013 #78

Oh, it's perfectly clear pipoman Dec 2013 #80

if I was a man, I'd be angry that such stupid articles depicting men having cave men reactions bettyellen Dec 2013 #85

LOL..what a joke.. pipoman Dec 2013 #87

yup, it is clear. Scout Dec 2013 #180

And also perfectly clear who is disingenuous and petulant. LanternWaste Dec 2013 #257

How much effort do you expect men to expend looking for gray area between "petty jerk" and "creepy"? lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #249

likely they are petty jerks BECAUSE they are afraid to be called out as creepy bettyellen Dec 2013 #250

That accurately describes my attitude about the topic. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #261

you made yourself feel bad, by imagining it was about social fitness and not the other person's bettyellen Dec 2013 #292

Thank you ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #307

I know right? wickerwoman Dec 2013 #21

That's exactly what they're doing kcr Dec 2013 #23

+1000 crazylikafox Dec 2013 #176

There is an entire subset of men MattBaggins Dec 2013 #22

Shaming never works Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #36

Your stock Libertarian cut and paste was pointless. MattBaggins Dec 2013 #46

He (or she) has a valid point AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #104

what the fuck ? JI7 Dec 2013 #113

H.O.R.M.O.N.E.S AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #118

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA bettyellen Dec 2013 #116

Holy crap, I nearly spit out my coffee!! Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #123

Indeed AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #263

I used to pretend the same, too. LanternWaste Dec 2013 #259

So women don't enjoy attention from men? AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #264

Sometimes they do gollygee Dec 2013 #266

yep, it is a subset that is very whiney and vocal on the net, just like RWers.... something about bettyellen Dec 2013 #47

Wow. Marr Dec 2013 #89

it's directed at the men who are "too scared to hear 'No'". THEY are agressive and rude for not bettyellen Dec 2013 #96

You didn't say "some men", so the remark seemed directed toward men in general. Marr Dec 2013 #175

nope, I clearly said it was how the article portrayed these bitter dudes. I am surprised more men bettyellen Dec 2013 #252

You know what was WOW! boston bean Dec 2013 #148

Hey, how bout asking for help? Why do you find that scary? grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #110

who said I was scared? this article is about men who supposedly cower in fear of rejection.... bettyellen Dec 2013 #115

Well then, perhaps the onus of the article should be put on the idea that grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #197

interesting, I didn't read it as them "being cads" i read it as them being so needy for ego stroking bettyellen Dec 2013 #203

Well, it's not that they're all needy for ego stroking, many men have so been hurt or abused grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #214

I don't think it's a case of men being over feminized, I think the ones who do get angry bettyellen Dec 2013 #220

I'll hold a door for either gender as a courtesy, and would help anyone struggling with a heavy item Xithras Dec 2013 #11

Or clearly pregnant, in pain or disabled. MattBaggins Dec 2013 #26

Of course. If there's a visible physical malady, it's the courteous thing to do. Xithras Dec 2013 #31

exactly right. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #82

I work in a busy office building Demobrat Dec 2013 #50

the only time it seems unwelcome is when you have your hands totally free and someone gets the bettyellen Dec 2013 #68

I've had that happen Demobrat Dec 2013 #212

Because following people and joking about stalking them is so thoughtful! LOL. bettyellen Dec 2013 #215

Yes it does Demobrat Dec 2013 #216

Me too. I am sure there are exceptions, but I don't see women using this as a ploy bettyellen Dec 2013 #221

I've had them follow me down the street screaming Demobrat Dec 2013 #227

I have been called every name in the book for refusing to drink or chat with strangers.... bettyellen Dec 2013 #232

Sometimes its worse to be polite. Demobrat Dec 2013 #240

Yep. And guys here should be angry at those dudes for screwing it up for them. bettyellen Dec 2013 #244

Googled it. Demobrat Dec 2013 #312

you are totally welcome. bettyellen Dec 2013 #329

Same here. nt City Lights Dec 2013 #189

I always ask women on the train or in my building if they would like help and they all appreciate hrmjustin Dec 2013 #12

Do you ask men if they need help or just women MattBaggins Dec 2013 #27

I ask both. There is a myth that NYers are not polite or helpful but it is false. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #29

I am a New Yorker as well but I might fit the impolite stereotype at times. MattBaggins Dec 2013 #33

We all have our moments. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #35

Matt, in other places they are fake nicer than we are, and have more time for stupid shit. bettyellen Dec 2013 #98

That one surprised me when I first went to NY - I knew the myth, but I've actually petronius Dec 2013 #99

I definately agree it is an unfair reputation NYC has. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #101

I ask women more than men AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #105

Oh Jesus, not this shit again. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #15

I don't offer my seat to women and I have no problem with that MattBaggins Dec 2013 #30

Exactly. Young women with healthy knees can stand just as much as a man their age. nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #155

Exactly - TBF Dec 2013 #164

Courtesy is not chivalry nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #174

Chivalry is.... Scout Dec 2013 #209

No kidding. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #54

Chivalry has been dead for quite some time Fumesucker Dec 2013 #18

That's really too bad:( polly7 Dec 2013 #24

Men may be afraid of being profiled as a "sexual suspect" marshall Dec 2013 #318

No, they just don't care! All you have to do is walk in an urban flamingdem Dec 2013 #25

Yep, wickerwoman Dec 2013 #37

I'm so glad chivalry is dead MattBaggins Dec 2013 #43

chivalry was killed with accusations of benevolent sexism leftyohiolib Dec 2013 #170

Last time I tried to help a woman with a baby bugy on stairs it didn't turn out too good. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #32

It's been awhile though, hasn't it? Maybe try again. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #38

Of course you would say that ,,,,, Comrade! Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #256

I fared little better.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #294

LOL. It appears they were paying homage to ..... me! Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2013 #308

...of the 5,000 men surveyed. flvegan Dec 2013 #34

With the right methodology, 5000 is a damn good sample. Silent3 Dec 2013 #42

5,000 is a huge sample size Jimbo S Dec 2013 #217

You can be accused of sexual harrasment Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #39

Oh baloney MattBaggins Dec 2013 #56

Right. Point to someone who was successfully accused of sexual harassment kcr Dec 2013 #71

young men(and women) offer to help me all the time JI7 Dec 2013 #81

Bullshit gollygee Dec 2013 #157

Oh, yes, the "daily mail" Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #40

Not true at all Politicalboi Dec 2013 #41

The Battleship Potemkin Warren DeMontague Dec 2013 #45

I have noticed this too quinnox Dec 2013 #44

she didn't speak english ? JI7 Dec 2013 #60

No, you misunderstand. She was American quinnox Dec 2013 #62

i don't understand why you didn't just open the door JI7 Dec 2013 #67

I was not close to the door quinnox Dec 2013 #72

The only thing sexist is assuming men but not women should help BainsBane Dec 2013 #48

True that AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #106

I always help out when I sense that someone is having a harder time than I am. smirkymonkey Dec 2013 #364

When I worked with men doing heavy work, letting them do anything was frowned upon. So I didn't. freshwest Dec 2013 #51

Wow! This got some people pissed... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #53

Welcome to DU... Fumesucker Dec 2013 #88

Oh, have I noticed, but... TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #90

You can get shot like that. lpbk2713 Dec 2013 #55

That's my favorite scene in the movie. I was waiting for someone to post it here. Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2013 #136

I was going to mention I would except in the case of TlalocW Dec 2013 #186

Ouch I can't believe that. RandySF Dec 2013 #57

I don't get the giving up seats to women on the train or bus argument. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #58

I give up seats to women AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #107

Weird. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #108

Yes, only weird men are attracted to women AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #119

only weird men think women should be grateful for things they don't need or want- bettyellen Dec 2013 #222

Women don't want attention from men? AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #265

some will sadly, settle for any attention they can get. many will notice that gratitude is expected bettyellen Dec 2013 #278

If a woman enjoys the attention of certain members of the opposite sex... AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #328

I should enjoy every stranger who throws themselves at me? LOL, there aint enough hours in the day. bettyellen Dec 2013 #333

I guess we can't all have normal hormone levels AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #335

are you a parody? because otherwise, it would appear you stepped out of a time capsule bettyellen Dec 2013 #346

Yes, that must explain it! AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #348

It's weird that you'd give up your seat to attractive women. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #247

I said, "I give up my seat to women" AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #267

testosterone and estrogen don't do what you think they do. MattBaggins Dec 2013 #315

It is responsible for much of the interactions between males and females AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #324

no MattBaggins Dec 2013 #330

Apparently nobody ever explained the birds and bees to you AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #336

Here, this should help you understand AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #338

Testosterone and estrogen are responsible for sexual attraction AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #340

No, that isn't how hormones work. Tien1985 Dec 2013 #343

lol AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #349

Your interpretation of this conversation is.... AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #351

You get your science facts Tien1985 Dec 2013 #354

Please post your source AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #365

So you are saying Tien1985 Dec 2013 #366

No AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #367

You have no idea what your talking about MattBaggins Dec 2013 #360

Of course I dont AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #368

hahaha d_b Dec 2013 #352

And how many women offer to help? marshall Dec 2013 #59

I'm amazed they let you on a plane with 2 suitcases and a backpack muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #138

That was in 2008, 2009 and 2010 marshall Dec 2013 #141

Still, 2 suitcases and a backpack is 3 items, not 2 muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #143

Each person is allowed one carry on and one "personal item" marshall Dec 2013 #149

five bags and a kid? no wonder people ignored you. you took twice the luggage room and slowed down bettyellen Dec 2013 #224

Actually with two seats assigned to me I took up LESS room than other passengers marshall Dec 2013 #268

but walking through the whatever you call it, and onto the plane you appeared to be one guy bettyellen Dec 2013 #286

True, people don't expect to see a man alone with a baby marshall Dec 2013 #311

and also they are hard to see when they are strapped to the chest, especially if you are walking bettyellen Dec 2013 #347

I am an equal offender Go Vols Dec 2013 #65

If true, that's pretty pathetic sakabatou Dec 2013 #70

No one remembers the scene from Naked Gun 3? davidn3600 Dec 2013 #73

I remember that scene sakabatou Dec 2013 #75

Hilarious! quinnox Dec 2013 #92

Perfect! TreasonousBastard Dec 2013 #93

I don't offer help to anyone The2ndWheel Dec 2013 #79

For every ten people who thank you Kurska Dec 2013 #86

nothing can undo the goodwill. it is it's own reward when you feel that is how you think bettyellen Dec 2013 #100

Let's be clear about one thing. Chivalry is not about being nice to women. Deep13 Dec 2013 #94

Or, as I read in a tumblr quote the other day, KitSileya Dec 2013 #130

No, it really is about the best way to kill other guys. Deep13 Dec 2013 #327

My daughter had a good traveling experience today, flying with pnwmom Dec 2013 #103

But I bet they would if they were asked to help:) grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #111

I admit that sometimes I hesitate before I ask if people need help. Lobo27 Dec 2013 #114

I will offer assistance to anyone, regardless of gender, if I think they need it. nt MADem Dec 2013 #120

I think it depends on the area, rural vs urban newfie11 Dec 2013 #121

so what? Iris Dec 2013 #124

Can't we all agree in 2013 Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #127

I believe that is true of most people Tien1985 Dec 2013 #344

I've heard men use the lame excuse that it is because of "feminists" and the Equal Rights Movement.. Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2013 #129

Have to? The2ndWheel Dec 2013 #140

No, men don't "have to" do anything they don't want to do. Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2013 #178

Really? I recall quite distinctly being told that feminists don't care about equal rights BainsBane Dec 2013 #205

Have to? mythology Dec 2013 #145

See my response #178. I specifically stated that men who blame feminists for these things Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2013 #179

good of them; it should be sex blind treestar Dec 2013 #131

Sitting in my car at the grocery store the other day, I saw B Calm Dec 2013 #135

In the grocery parking lot where I shop, gathering the carts back is someone's job. Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #151

Ever had a grocery cart roll into your vehicle? Or had a grocery cart blocking B Calm Dec 2013 #153

You're destroying jobs!! Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #168

and lazy ass people are destroying valuable vehicles! B Calm Dec 2013 #182

I'd rather have your vehicle get dinged than some poor soul lose his job Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #184

Stop acting ..........! B Calm Dec 2013 #187

"you have to pay a quarter to get a cart and you get the quarter back when you return the cart" dionysus Dec 2013 #185

Aldis is doing it right! B Calm Dec 2013 #188

yeah but the first time i went there i was like "WTF, why are the carts chained together? WTF?" dionysus Dec 2013 #190

I was the same way. My wife had to show me B Calm Dec 2013 #193

that was actually the second time i went there. the first time, a guy was returning a cart and i dionysus Dec 2013 #195

Now you have me laughing. . B Calm Dec 2013 #202

i didnt realize you had to bring your own bags, either. i had 60 bucks worth of groceries loose in dionysus Dec 2013 #206

You can buy bags at the checkout. Most people pick up B Calm Dec 2013 #262

lol. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #358

Yeah, but it's helpful to pile them into the corrals in the lot ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #300

You can tell how nice a store is by how many carts are randomly strewn about the lot tammywammy Dec 2013 #199

Chivalry may be dead, and politeness is collateral damage. AngryOldDem Dec 2013 #137

FWIW, here's the original AXA press release muriel_volestrangler Dec 2013 #142

This again... Tien1985 Dec 2013 #144

^^^^ Iggo Dec 2013 #166

Agree deutsey Dec 2013 #172

Totally agree. AngryOldDem Dec 2013 #313

So, I was walking by this feminist protest against door-opening the other day... enki23 Dec 2013 #146

I love this. Thank you. bettyellen Dec 2013 #234

Finniest post in the thread MattBaggins Dec 2013 #362

I'm glad "chivalry" is dead and buried. alarimer Dec 2013 #147

Wow, hard to believe. JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #156

I experience / see stuff like that and I live in a metroplex Skittles Dec 2013 #339

I don't think any such thing. JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #345

I've lived city / suburban / rural Skittles Dec 2013 #359

The issue is that people with a free hand should be helping people struggling gollygee Dec 2013 #159

Doing anything with someone else's kid opens you to legal liability if anything goes wrong. FarCenter Dec 2013 #161

Aw, poor babies. Iggo Dec 2013 #165

Chivalry should be dead Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #167

And you can be sure that those attractive women know exactly what he's doing. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #171

what's wrong with just looking at it as being polite? Scout Dec 2013 #173

why mercuryblues Dec 2013 #181

The title is a falsehood. "volunteering to help" is not the same as "help" Pitagoras Dec 2013 #183

I'd call social services!!! Taking a baby buggy on steps is very dangerous. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #204

I know many NyC stations without escalators or elevators Pitagoras Dec 2013 #210

St. Louis Metrolink stations also lack elevators. randome Dec 2013 #279

Why should I give up a seat on a bus just because she's a woman? Proles Dec 2013 #208

I've given up seat for men gollygee Dec 2013 #218

I won't give up my seat to a woman Feral Child Dec 2013 #219

Why would we assume she wants help? cbdo2007 Dec 2013 #230

Don't confuse chivalry with manners. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #231

FFS ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #233

Or a woman struggling with putting a wheel chair in the trunk of a car. I know. appleannie1 Dec 2013 #236

that's a shame. Any able bodied person, male or female, should be willing to help the disabled. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #275

Is this sort of like the "opening doors" thing? NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #245

If Chivalry is dead, it isn't shown in this survey. Left2Tackle Dec 2013 #251

Why can't we all just get along? nolabear Dec 2013 #255

If one third says that they won't HappyMe Dec 2013 #260

Chilvary should be dead. Gormy Cuss Dec 2013 #269

And two-thirds would help. MineralMan Dec 2013 #273

yes, it does. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #274

Exactly! Lex Dec 2013 #282

A verbal survey is useless. randome Dec 2013 #277

i am always helping women with baby strollers up subway stairs, while people twice my size La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2013 #285

Did anything about helping others make you question your social fitness, bruise your ego or bettyellen Dec 2013 #306

because they are lying. that's why. nt La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2013 #321

I WOULD ASSIST A MAN TRYING TO CARRY A PRAM UP A Ilsa Dec 2013 #289

agreed and i have La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2013 #322

I needed help one Day dem in texas Dec 2013 #291

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #295

Does that happen often at the library? Agschmid Dec 2013 #298

Only on DU would someone take a minority Sissyk Dec 2013 #296

I would help ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #302

If I see anyone struggling CFLDem Dec 2013 #309

Would all women struggling with buggies treat all men trying to help Glassunion Dec 2013 #310

The original article on the AXA website is notably different in key ways marshall Dec 2013 #317

What does a persons' sex have to do with one's compassion for other human beings? n/t oxymoron Dec 2013 #319

none n/t Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #357

And now my usual question... where the hell do you people live where this is an issue? Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2013 #320

Gee, I know where this discussion is going... hughee99 Dec 2013 #323

Yup Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #356

Is it death of chivalry or fear of litigation? Recursion Dec 2013 #337

It is about litigation Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #355

When men help with Baby Carriages bad things happen like this: Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #353

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #361

Chivalry is dead DragonBorn Dec 2013 #363