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[nadinbrzezinski]

98. You must mean the first Fall

http://theweek.com/article/index/220100/

By the coming summer the tents were mostly gone, except for Santa Cruz California.

Police repression started almost immediately. In San Diego specifically within two weeks, as well as Zucotti Park, the mother ship. San Diego started the camp about two weeks after Zucotti and was infiltrated by police and FBI informers just as fast.

You sure about your facts as you accuse others of not knowing? And yes, as I removed you from ignore I recommend you use fingers in ears and la, la, la.

Anyhoo, I cover politics in my local town. I started with yes, Occupy. I find Occupy veterans all over in different aspects, remember that Madrid Model? They are so damn ineffective that they managed to convince the CPUC, one if the most corporate captured state regulators in the state, to close down San Onofre.


Yup SCE decided it was a good decision since this pesky citizen group was (and still is) good. But the pressure on the regulators from these pesky veterans continues, something about rates and who pays after the early closure of the plant.

I also know traditional organizations of the left, with a few exceptions, did not embrace them. Nor did the party. Anyhoo, even though labor, for the most part, did not embrace them one of the early successes was the consequences of the West Coast port shutdown. The stibador Union in Oakland got a better deal than they would ptherwise. The company could not afford to risk a second shut down

There were specific central labor councils that did, such as my own.

So please, use your fingers, insert firmly in ear.

Bullshit needs to be called upon.

Oh and going back to those revolutions, you know they had a salutary effect, though it was not immediate. You at least should know that. As Toynbee once wrote...there are cycles. Of course, we can talk of the Longe Duree, which the US is in the midst off, with that cycle starting in 1600 or so. But whatever...

Of course Kennedy comes to mind when it comes to our power structure. He spoke of nations under communism, but damn it, it applies internally.

I expect this to be ignored, and given you do not know the most basic I doubt you even walked the streets. As a reporter I staid out of the GA, something about neutrality, but boy I got to see some heated ones. Yes, one of the discussions was how to get involved in politics, starting with whether to get involved in even a simple thing as voter registration. For this singular act an occupier was hauled off to jail btw.

So yes, I will call your bullshit.