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jsmirman

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54. But this is simply not accurate

Sun Mar 11, 2012, 11:46 PM

Mar 2012

but to think that some taliban karl rove got down there and said "y'all say it was more than one" so quickly, and then all of the villagers - despite their genuine grief and shock - got on message, stretches the imagination.

This is not what "all of the villagers" said.

Why must people make stuff up?

This is as ridiculous as simply buying whatever the heck the initial official statement is. You don't know, I don't know, and no one on this board has a clue right now as to what exactly happened. Frankly, quality skepticism is undermined by people making shit up.

Yes, the idea that the Taliban - in an area that they have been in control of for so many years - could possibly be able to quickly shape a responsive narrative is absurd.

Knee-jerk reactions in both directions - to believe or to disbelieve - are both ridiculous.

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"They were all drunk and shooting all over the place," - Reuters [View all] Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2012 OP

Absolutely f"ing sickening. nt. polly7 Mar 2012 #1

I guess it wasn't a "rogue soldier" Enrique Mar 2012 #2

more than one shooter??? Cooley Hurd Mar 2012 #3

I'd be careful with this one jsmirman Mar 2012 #4

why of course. polly7 Mar 2012 #6

Which is why the Afghans need full access and involvement jsmirman Mar 2012 #8

Good points in there... JSnuffy Mar 2012 #12

Gee, who else LIES about what happens in Afghanistan? bvar22 Mar 2012 #74

Thank you so very much chervilant Mar 2012 #75

PS chervilant Mar 2012 #76

Hello, fellow Ozarkian Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #96

Well, now, chervilant Mar 2012 #97

Quite a nice poetic description of springtime in the Ozarks Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #99

How could it possibly be worse than what it seems? Alcibiades Mar 2012 #79

I guess it would have been worse if the murder victims were... Larry Ogg Mar 2012 #81

Just what it seems... JSnuffy Mar 2012 #84

With due respect, I don't think that matters to Afghani civilians in the area. Selatius Mar 2012 #90

It makes a huge difference pipoman Mar 2012 #98

Here's more to add to the mission of destruction of the Afghan people sad sally Mar 2012 #85

also be careful with the official story as told by our military officials Enrique Mar 2012 #36

The Pentagon nor any President has ever lied to us or fed bogus stories to the news media, right? sad sally Mar 2012 #37

Absolutely jsmirman Mar 2012 #43

Maybe there is video tape? bvar22 Mar 2012 #82

Indeed! They admit that they will intentionally lie to the public kenny blankenship Mar 2012 #46

Right. Careful like with the helecopter pilots that killed the journalists. We were sooooo rhett o rick Mar 2012 #47

More like careful like not making our minds up w/in 24 hrs. jsmirman Mar 2012 #48

Maybe I misunderstood. You seem to want to make sure we dont rhett o rick Mar 2012 #51

Please stop being ridiculous jsmirman Mar 2012 #53

Ok jake, let's talk about despicable. You think I am despicable. Well I think that our heavily armed rhett o rick Mar 2012 #55

I think you're way out there on this one jsmirman Mar 2012 #58

You called me despicable. I hope you have nothing more. rhett o rick Mar 2012 #59

Are you mental? You said I didn't care about children being brutally murdered jsmirman Mar 2012 #61

I believe that it is more than likely that children are getting murdered rhett o rick Mar 2012 #73

well a bunch of kids have been murdered by arely staircase Mar 2012 #52

But this is simply not accurate jsmirman Mar 2012 #54

my only knee jerk reaction is that i think something sounds fishy arely staircase Mar 2012 #56

They already have, according to CNN jsmirman Mar 2012 #57

i think that proves (well, helps) my argument arely staircase Mar 2012 #64

Again, I believe trying to pick a story this early is pointless jsmirman Mar 2012 #65

no, i didn't know that there were eyewitness reports of it being just one guy arely staircase Mar 2012 #67

Ok, I wasn't sure if you had seen that or not jsmirman Mar 2012 #69

On the ground in Afghanistan, it doesn't matter rusty fender Mar 2012 #77

yes we have to let the locals see real justice. limpyhobbler Mar 2012 #68

It's just as bad as it could be. Would a joint investigation jsmirman Mar 2012 #70

Yes it has to be tried, limpyhobbler Mar 2012 #71

I am with you. I don't go for (forgive the expression) Shoot First, Ask Questions Later MADem Mar 2012 #78

How republican of you, OVERPAID01 Mar 2012 #86

How ridiculous of you jsmirman Mar 2012 #88

I understand what you're saying ... Blue_Roses Mar 2012 #103

Fuck. Nt xchrom Mar 2012 #5

it's a wonder wendylaroux Mar 2012 #7

This is...stunning. How awful it is. xchrom Mar 2012 #15

Who ever leaked this should be punished severly. rhett o rick Mar 2012 #9

I know. I was thinking the same thing, that regardless if it turns out gateley Mar 2012 #11

I agree, but there are some right here in river city that would just as soon rhett o rick Mar 2012 #23

Well, they're wrong, we're right. gateley Mar 2012 #39

Some things never change...sad sad sally Mar 2012 #40

Eerily reminiscent of atrocities committed by London's Anglo empire against the French during the phasma ex machina Mar 2012 #10

What about Margret Thatcher? Male Ego? Could have been. bahrbearian Mar 2012 #13

London's male ego trip eagerly embraces like minded Amazon butchers. phasma ex machina Mar 2012 #21

Don't see any mention of London. Boudica the Lyoness Mar 2012 #27

Look harder. You'll see City of London Corporation's bloody fingerprints all over the world. phasma ex machina Mar 2012 #28

This is horrible Aerows Mar 2012 #14

They need to speed up the end of this war. More atrocities will continue to happen.These Pisces Mar 2012 #16

Yup Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #60

Note that being drunk Aerows Mar 2012 #17

Hopefully, this atrocity will mark the beginning of the end of the Oscalation kenny blankenship Mar 2012 #18

All articles but this one say one soldier Nancy Waterman Mar 2012 #19

That's not accurate- interviews with the wounded and witnesses are... Poll_Blind Mar 2012 #25

What in God's name , are we doing in Afghanistan? Vanje Mar 2012 #20

Best question anyone could ask Aerows Mar 2012 #22

Immeasurably cynical political ambitions are being served kenny blankenship Mar 2012 #24

America serves London's interest. London invaded then lost Afghanistan about a century ago. phasma ex machina Mar 2012 #26

It's probably easier to just say the Opium Trade Aerows Mar 2012 #30

+1 Except it still seems like a City of London Corporation Anglo-American Empire (in that order). phasma ex machina Mar 2012 #31

Well, yeah Aerows Mar 2012 #34

London controls 36% of the world's largest market (FX) while "superpower" America controls 18%. phasma ex machina Mar 2012 #35

Thanks, Phasma, for the info Mimosa Mar 2012 #101

"Military bases in an area of the world filled with strategic mineral resources".... Junkdrawer Mar 2012 #32

'We' are there for the same reason the Russians were there: those mountains are rich in minerals Mimosa Mar 2012 #100

The person or persons responsible for this atrocity should pay the extreme price no lumpy Mar 2012 #29

How far we have fallen. n/t Paper Roses Mar 2012 #33

So who came up with the official lies this morning malaise Mar 2012 #38

The NY Times was known for headlining fabricated news for Bush et al sad sally Mar 2012 #41

Yes and they led the war on Wikileaks in the US media. EFerrari Mar 2012 #49

why are we there? onethatcares Mar 2012 #42

another thing to thank team limbaugh for certainot Mar 2012 #45

The usual answer is that we're there for the Afghan people. Prometheus Bound Mar 2012 #92

another tragic result of allowing 1000 coordinated radio stations to lie us into wars certainot Mar 2012 #44

This shit needs to end now. Enough war. This is what u get for continued BS. MichiganVote Mar 2012 #50

No, no! Don't end it on a "down" note! kenny blankenship Mar 2012 #66

The only thing with more BS from politicians than war is peace. MichiganVote Mar 2012 #89

shameful, this should be the impetus to quinnox Mar 2012 #62

It sure will be nice when Bush is no longer in the White House. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2012 #63

So this report seems to conflict with the "lone gunman" story in the MSM jimlup Mar 2012 #72

We'll never know the truth. Both sides will hide and embellish. Kablooie Mar 2012 #80

USA! USA! USA! cat lady-in-w8ing Mar 2012 #83

Who are you going to believe anonymous "senior U.S. defense official in Washington" or multiple Vincardog Mar 2012 #87

As this is debated, my son is preparing to go back on wednesday. w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #91

Well that sucks... joeybee12 Mar 2012 #93

Good vibes and metaphysical hugs coming to both of you. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 #94

Praying he will come home safe, sound and soon. Mimosa Mar 2012 #102

The best reason for US to withdraw from Afghanistan as soon as possible. nt nanabugg Mar 2012 #95