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seabeyond

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87. but it was mroe than a kiss on the hand, you understadn that right? this is where the real battle

Thu Dec 12, 2013, 04:52 PM

Dec 2013

ended up on du. so many men wanted to keep it at merely a kiss on the hand. how can we be bothered. but... that was not the issue. it was kiss on mouth, face, unexpectedly, continuously, corralling her stopping her from playing.

jsut want to make sure we are on the same page.

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I don't get into these much, but it was NOT sexual harassment! [View all] nolabear Dec 2013 OP

These inane things Old Codger Dec 2013 #1

no he was not. amybe at first. but being repeatedly told to knock it off, took it beyond the seabeyond Dec 2013 #14

Maybe beyond Old Codger Dec 2013 #40

i have raised young boys. i am well aware of young boys behavior. one boy stopped. did not get seabeyond Dec 2013 #43

You might be correct, I don't know. But my point was a different one. nolabear Dec 2013 #65

they did not label the child with sexual harassment. it went into a file that was seabeyond Dec 2013 #75

I'm not aiming the OP at "them". I'm aiming it at the idea altogether that it was sexual. nolabear Dec 2013 #78

i think they wanted to differentiate it from the other disciplinary behavior that is my point. seabeyond Dec 2013 #80

Well, can we find middle ground? Different terms? nolabear Dec 2013 #82

you know, that just was not a big deal to me. that is fine. spelling it out is fine. having a seabeyond Dec 2013 #84

The word "sexual harassment" doesn't imply that pnwmom Dec 2013 #66

This is the second time... CSStrowbridge Dec 2013 #73

yes. it could be because the adults around him, like those on the board are too busy going after the seabeyond Dec 2013 #77

Sea, we've gotten into a few tiffs in my short time on this board... Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2013 #91

huh. and see. i do not remember any tiffs, lol. seabeyond Dec 2013 #92

Meh, I don't argue that pasionately to be memorable, Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2013 #93

ah... well. i kinda figure about what subject. pretty hard liner without a lot of leeway. that seabeyond Dec 2013 #95

oh oh oh. and a year? i am getting old. a year is a really long time ago. lol. i try to keep seabeyond Dec 2013 #96

Maybe, maybe not. Do you know what the male child had been exposed to? There could be influences lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #101

I so agree, my dear nolabear. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2013 #2

Excellent post malaise Dec 2013 #3

Very well said, nolabear. nt. polly7 Dec 2013 #4

The cool voice of reason. yellerpup Dec 2013 #5

Good post dballance Dec 2013 #6

Did they mercuryblues Dec 2013 #98

bad behavior-needing correction and discipline - I agree - but it is cuckoo to refer to a 6 year-old Douglas Carpenter Dec 2013 #7

Thankfully, most understand that and the hair on fire brigade are a very small minority 1000words Dec 2013 #8

fire brigade? you were one of the ones yelling sexual predator. we were saying just what the OP is seabeyond Dec 2013 #15

Thank you! Gemini Cat Dec 2013 #9

Since a six year old would not be able to comprehend what 'sexual harrasment' means Rex Dec 2013 #10

Well spoken. We have an increasing amount of maniacs on DU Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #11

Sexual harassment is not about intent. whttevrr Dec 2013 #12

I would say this is a minor isolated incident. Rex Dec 2013 #16

The mother said it was multiple incidents pnwmom Dec 2013 #19

Well maybe the district can now give a class on bullying Rex Dec 2013 #23

Good idea. This does seem like a form of bullying. pnwmom Dec 2013 #51

As opposed to a 14 year old teenager, who would understand Rex Dec 2013 #58

You are right. Whether this is sexual harassment pnwmom Dec 2013 #18

I think it's about welcomed vs unwelcomed behavior. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #29

I disagree. Sexual harassment has to have an element of sex about it. Assault is closer. nolabear Dec 2013 #67

i think that is pretty much what we have all been saying. none of this is new. people wanting to seabeyond Dec 2013 #13

and something else. not only was that little guy getting a break, the little guy was not even seabeyond Dec 2013 #17

At 6, I would be doing what mom told me was the right thing. Rex Dec 2013 #21

they did not tell him he was sexually harassing. the talked to him about boundaries and seabeyond Dec 2013 #27

Did not know it was the mom that caused all the attention. Rex Dec 2013 #33

exactly. and that has been my beef. i am so fuckin all over protecting this kid and defending the seabeyond Dec 2013 #35

Very well said. HappyMe Dec 2013 #20

the school took the steps. talking to. time out. in school detention. then an out of school seabeyond Dec 2013 #24

Indeed, its another example of a bizarre fringey group not understanding their weird quinnox Dec 2013 #22

that would be the number of men that continually said it was boys being boys and no action should seabeyond Dec 2013 #25

Nope quinnox Dec 2013 #26

bizarre fringey group not understanding their weird ideas are not what most normal people think seabeyond Dec 2013 #30

I used to minimize and trivialize people and groups by name calling when they didn't support my poin LanternWaste Dec 2013 #38

.......aaaaand, you just started your old habit back up. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #50

+1 1000words Dec 2013 #60

so the girl is not normal for not wanting the kid to kiss and control her ? JI7 Dec 2013 #105

I think the only disagreement is whether the term "sexual harassment" makes sense gollygee Dec 2013 #28

not everyone agrees it needed discipline. a lot of men insisted nothing should be done. seabeyond Dec 2013 #32

Did they? gollygee Dec 2013 #34

it did not matter how many times it was drawn out for them. sexual predator, they yelled. seabeyond Dec 2013 #37

I guess I'd like them to specify gollygee Dec 2013 #39

which this thread only reinforced. allowing them to come in and talk about reasonable, when it is seabeyond Dec 2013 #45

OK well I've started a thread asking my questions gollygee Dec 2013 #53

go at it haus. i am tired of totally fabricated arguments created to diss women. in absurdity. seabeyond Dec 2013 #56

the threads have been really repulsive gollygee Dec 2013 #57

i think many of us talked endlessly about a parents job teaching kids boundaries and reinforcing seabeyond Dec 2013 #59

I believe the boy needed/needs addressed 1awake Dec 2013 #69

i could go with the post. i, as a mother of sons, seabeyond Dec 2013 #79

I would have issues with it 1awake Dec 2013 #81

and as a parent of 2 almost thru the system, i would so trust the schools. i have yet to find a seabeyond Dec 2013 #85

Yes sir/ma'am, agreed. Have a good day! n/t 1awake Dec 2013 #88

lol. a real pleasure to both agree and disagree respectfully. thank you. that is refreshing. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #89

I hope you don't think I was doing that. I certainly believe sexual harassment happens. nolabear Dec 2013 #68

Well phil89 Dec 2013 #31

I do have credentials and work with many a child psychiatrist. nolabear Dec 2013 #70

but it was mroe than a kiss on the hand, you understadn that right? this is where the real battle seabeyond Dec 2013 #87

I don't think we are. But at this point I don't think we can be. nolabear Dec 2013 #97

At six, when I was told by parents and educators not to do thing, I would stop doing it. LanternWaste Dec 2013 #36

That's the kind of logic I expect from conservatives. Not on DU Courtesy Flush Dec 2013 #76

Same here. I've barely followed this case but it just sounds LittleBlue Dec 2013 #41

"Like most childish behaviors, he'll probably grow out of it.""administration being overzealous" seabeyond Dec 2013 #47

Meh LittleBlue Dec 2013 #63

This is exactly how I see it. Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #42

Agree Completely. zentrum Dec 2013 #44

+1 Rex Dec 2013 #48

the school didnt give the kid sexual harassment. they talked to him in age appropriate language. seabeyond Dec 2013 #49

Boundaries MissMillie Dec 2013 #46

we start teaching boundaries way before 6. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #52

one would hope so MissMillie Dec 2013 #62

or from what we can see, the mother doesnt seem to think it is her job to teach it to her son. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #64

Reminds me of something... fleabiscuit Dec 2013 #54

What? gollygee Dec 2013 #55

Exactly, it's "us." fleabiscuit Dec 2013 #61

lol Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #72

I don't understand that. Can you explain? nolabear Dec 2013 #71

You sound pretty much spot on to me. fleabiscuit Dec 2013 #90

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. nolabear Dec 2013 #99

Thank you! A six year old kid is NOT an adult! Warpy Dec 2013 #74

Exactly. Extremely well said. Thank you. magical thyme Dec 2013 #83

Nice assessment of the issue nolabear. bluesbassman Dec 2013 #86

It was repeated unwanted touching that made the little girl uncomfortable. It was sexual harassment. liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #94

Okay. nolabear Dec 2013 #100

Calling the behavior of first graders "sexual harassment" diminishes the term. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #102

And it is right at the cusp of the cooties stage nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #103

Shhhhh. Don't be saying logical things like that 'round here! Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #104

Yup. Agschmid Dec 2013 #106