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Vashta Nerada

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104. Shhhhh. Don't be saying logical things like that 'round here!

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Thu Dec 12, 2013, 06:19 PM

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I don't get into these much, but it was NOT sexual harassment! [View all] nolabear Dec 2013 OP

These inane things Old Codger Dec 2013 #1

no he was not. amybe at first. but being repeatedly told to knock it off, took it beyond the seabeyond Dec 2013 #14

Maybe beyond Old Codger Dec 2013 #40

i have raised young boys. i am well aware of young boys behavior. one boy stopped. did not get seabeyond Dec 2013 #43

You might be correct, I don't know. But my point was a different one. nolabear Dec 2013 #65

they did not label the child with sexual harassment. it went into a file that was seabeyond Dec 2013 #75

I'm not aiming the OP at "them". I'm aiming it at the idea altogether that it was sexual. nolabear Dec 2013 #78

i think they wanted to differentiate it from the other disciplinary behavior that is my point. seabeyond Dec 2013 #80

Well, can we find middle ground? Different terms? nolabear Dec 2013 #82

you know, that just was not a big deal to me. that is fine. spelling it out is fine. having a seabeyond Dec 2013 #84

The word "sexual harassment" doesn't imply that pnwmom Dec 2013 #66

This is the second time... CSStrowbridge Dec 2013 #73

yes. it could be because the adults around him, like those on the board are too busy going after the seabeyond Dec 2013 #77

Sea, we've gotten into a few tiffs in my short time on this board... Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2013 #91

huh. and see. i do not remember any tiffs, lol. seabeyond Dec 2013 #92

Meh, I don't argue that pasionately to be memorable, Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2013 #93

ah... well. i kinda figure about what subject. pretty hard liner without a lot of leeway. that seabeyond Dec 2013 #95

oh oh oh. and a year? i am getting old. a year is a really long time ago. lol. i try to keep seabeyond Dec 2013 #96

Maybe, maybe not. Do you know what the male child had been exposed to? There could be influences lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #101

I so agree, my dear nolabear. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2013 #2

Excellent post malaise Dec 2013 #3

Very well said, nolabear. nt. polly7 Dec 2013 #4

The cool voice of reason. yellerpup Dec 2013 #5

Good post dballance Dec 2013 #6

Did they mercuryblues Dec 2013 #98

bad behavior-needing correction and discipline - I agree - but it is cuckoo to refer to a 6 year-old Douglas Carpenter Dec 2013 #7

Thankfully, most understand that and the hair on fire brigade are a very small minority 1000words Dec 2013 #8

fire brigade? you were one of the ones yelling sexual predator. we were saying just what the OP is seabeyond Dec 2013 #15

Thank you! Gemini Cat Dec 2013 #9

Since a six year old would not be able to comprehend what 'sexual harrasment' means Rex Dec 2013 #10

Well spoken. We have an increasing amount of maniacs on DU Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #11

Sexual harassment is not about intent. whttevrr Dec 2013 #12

I would say this is a minor isolated incident. Rex Dec 2013 #16

The mother said it was multiple incidents pnwmom Dec 2013 #19

Well maybe the district can now give a class on bullying Rex Dec 2013 #23

Good idea. This does seem like a form of bullying. pnwmom Dec 2013 #51

As opposed to a 14 year old teenager, who would understand Rex Dec 2013 #58

You are right. Whether this is sexual harassment pnwmom Dec 2013 #18

I think it's about welcomed vs unwelcomed behavior. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #29

I disagree. Sexual harassment has to have an element of sex about it. Assault is closer. nolabear Dec 2013 #67

i think that is pretty much what we have all been saying. none of this is new. people wanting to seabeyond Dec 2013 #13

and something else. not only was that little guy getting a break, the little guy was not even seabeyond Dec 2013 #17

At 6, I would be doing what mom told me was the right thing. Rex Dec 2013 #21

they did not tell him he was sexually harassing. the talked to him about boundaries and seabeyond Dec 2013 #27

Did not know it was the mom that caused all the attention. Rex Dec 2013 #33

exactly. and that has been my beef. i am so fuckin all over protecting this kid and defending the seabeyond Dec 2013 #35

Very well said. HappyMe Dec 2013 #20

the school took the steps. talking to. time out. in school detention. then an out of school seabeyond Dec 2013 #24

Indeed, its another example of a bizarre fringey group not understanding their weird quinnox Dec 2013 #22

that would be the number of men that continually said it was boys being boys and no action should seabeyond Dec 2013 #25

Nope quinnox Dec 2013 #26

bizarre fringey group not understanding their weird ideas are not what most normal people think seabeyond Dec 2013 #30

I used to minimize and trivialize people and groups by name calling when they didn't support my poin LanternWaste Dec 2013 #38

.......aaaaand, you just started your old habit back up. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #50

+1 1000words Dec 2013 #60

so the girl is not normal for not wanting the kid to kiss and control her ? JI7 Dec 2013 #105

I think the only disagreement is whether the term "sexual harassment" makes sense gollygee Dec 2013 #28

not everyone agrees it needed discipline. a lot of men insisted nothing should be done. seabeyond Dec 2013 #32

Did they? gollygee Dec 2013 #34

it did not matter how many times it was drawn out for them. sexual predator, they yelled. seabeyond Dec 2013 #37

I guess I'd like them to specify gollygee Dec 2013 #39

which this thread only reinforced. allowing them to come in and talk about reasonable, when it is seabeyond Dec 2013 #45

OK well I've started a thread asking my questions gollygee Dec 2013 #53

go at it haus. i am tired of totally fabricated arguments created to diss women. in absurdity. seabeyond Dec 2013 #56

the threads have been really repulsive gollygee Dec 2013 #57

i think many of us talked endlessly about a parents job teaching kids boundaries and reinforcing seabeyond Dec 2013 #59

I believe the boy needed/needs addressed 1awake Dec 2013 #69

i could go with the post. i, as a mother of sons, seabeyond Dec 2013 #79

I would have issues with it 1awake Dec 2013 #81

and as a parent of 2 almost thru the system, i would so trust the schools. i have yet to find a seabeyond Dec 2013 #85

Yes sir/ma'am, agreed. Have a good day! n/t 1awake Dec 2013 #88

lol. a real pleasure to both agree and disagree respectfully. thank you. that is refreshing. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #89

I hope you don't think I was doing that. I certainly believe sexual harassment happens. nolabear Dec 2013 #68

Well phil89 Dec 2013 #31

I do have credentials and work with many a child psychiatrist. nolabear Dec 2013 #70

but it was mroe than a kiss on the hand, you understadn that right? this is where the real battle seabeyond Dec 2013 #87

I don't think we are. But at this point I don't think we can be. nolabear Dec 2013 #97

At six, when I was told by parents and educators not to do thing, I would stop doing it. LanternWaste Dec 2013 #36

That's the kind of logic I expect from conservatives. Not on DU Courtesy Flush Dec 2013 #76

Same here. I've barely followed this case but it just sounds LittleBlue Dec 2013 #41

"Like most childish behaviors, he'll probably grow out of it.""administration being overzealous" seabeyond Dec 2013 #47

Meh LittleBlue Dec 2013 #63

This is exactly how I see it. Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #42

Agree Completely. zentrum Dec 2013 #44

+1 Rex Dec 2013 #48

the school didnt give the kid sexual harassment. they talked to him in age appropriate language. seabeyond Dec 2013 #49

Boundaries MissMillie Dec 2013 #46

we start teaching boundaries way before 6. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #52

one would hope so MissMillie Dec 2013 #62

or from what we can see, the mother doesnt seem to think it is her job to teach it to her son. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #64

Reminds me of something... fleabiscuit Dec 2013 #54

What? gollygee Dec 2013 #55

Exactly, it's "us." fleabiscuit Dec 2013 #61

lol Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #72

I don't understand that. Can you explain? nolabear Dec 2013 #71

You sound pretty much spot on to me. fleabiscuit Dec 2013 #90

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. nolabear Dec 2013 #99

Thank you! A six year old kid is NOT an adult! Warpy Dec 2013 #74

Exactly. Extremely well said. Thank you. magical thyme Dec 2013 #83

Nice assessment of the issue nolabear. bluesbassman Dec 2013 #86

It was repeated unwanted touching that made the little girl uncomfortable. It was sexual harassment. liberal_at_heart Dec 2013 #94

Okay. nolabear Dec 2013 #100

Calling the behavior of first graders "sexual harassment" diminishes the term. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #102

And it is right at the cusp of the cooties stage nadinbrzezinski Dec 2013 #103

Shhhhh. Don't be saying logical things like that 'round here! Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #104

Yup. Agschmid Dec 2013 #106