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zeemike

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60. That is how I see it too.

Reply to ljm2002 (Reply #36)

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 12:10 AM

Dec 2013

And thanks for that well stated post.

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Occupy... I Wonder If Secretary Kerry Even Gets The Irony Here... [View all] WillyT Dec 2013 OP

Well, the Ukranian protests are a middle finger to Putin, something we can get behind. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #1

I'm waiting for the Glenn Greenwald column on these protests. nt msanthrope Dec 2013 #51

My thought exactly.... HooptieWagon Dec 2013 #2

We're exceptional - neither morality nor rules apply. polichick Dec 2013 #3

I heard that last night and had similar thoughts. n/t hootinholler Dec 2013 #4

I was thinking the same... n/t EC Dec 2013 #5

There's a difference between the Federal government and state/local police Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #6

There was evidence that the response of local police departments Maedhros Dec 2013 #13

Can you provide evidence of this? nt Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #18

Sure. Maedhros Dec 2013 #30

There is evidence of infiltration and surveillance Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #31

I did not make the claim that orders came down from the Federal Government Maedhros Dec 2013 #38

No, there was zero evidence of that, just a bunch of kooky bloggers making that accusatoin. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #35

Your understanding of the terms "zero" and "evidence" is muddled. Maedhros Dec 2013 #39

Those blog posts all cite the same Examiner article. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #40

Well done! I suspected you had it in you. Maedhros Dec 2013 #41

neither said the federal government decided to evict the protestors geek tragedy Dec 2013 #42

I believe the DHS involvement in coordinating police response to OWS Maedhros Dec 2013 #43

There was no coordination on the federal level. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #44

Your source admits it! Maedhros Dec 2013 #45

speculation is not admission. nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #47

The EXAMINER can often be a "Huge Bullshit" source--their writers are not vetted well if at all. MADem Dec 2013 #54

Less true than you think dreamnightwind Dec 2013 #14

Those links are dubious at best Cali_Democrat Dec 2013 #17

You're trying to discredit this because of FWWM's status? dreamnightwind Dec 2013 #23

I know Fire personally & he's no anti-semite. U4ikLefty Dec 2013 #46

The US Govt was asked to intervene to protect Occupy protestors from the brutality of the Robo Cops sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #48

Kerry was a demonstrator before, ya know. nt riqster Dec 2013 #7

No kidding, it's not like the Ukranians asked a question about a Greg Palast book. arcane1 Dec 2013 #8

What is really disappointing to me is zeemike Dec 2013 #9

+1000 G_j Dec 2013 #10

Who is doing what to whom now? And Kerry had nothing to do with Occupy. randome Dec 2013 #11

That's the point. Maedhros Dec 2013 #15

State and municipal elements of the US Government attacked Occupy and other peaceful AtheistCrusader Dec 2013 #16

How many Occupy encampments were there? How many were met with brutality? randome Dec 2013 #20

Yep it is all about the numbers...if it is only 10% it is OK with some. zeemike Dec 2013 #24

It is never 'okay' to attack protesters. randome Dec 2013 #27

But is OK to remain silent when they do zeemike Dec 2013 #29

Kerry was Massachusetts Senator and their were NO verified accounts of brutality in MA karynnj Dec 2013 #57

And with that same standard then zeemike Dec 2013 #59

He is the Secretary of State -- and as such puts out the position of the Obama administration karynnj Dec 2013 #61

Show me. zeemike Dec 2013 #62

How many seriously injured peaceful protesters do you need, including Military Vets exercising the sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #52

Zero would be a good number. randome Dec 2013 #53

Wrong again, it was widely believed that just one day of protesting throughout the previous decade sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #56

The protesters were still in Zuccotti Park in November - starting September 17 karynnj Dec 2013 #63

It is not about Kerry having something to do with Occupy zeemike Dec 2013 #19

So because local police sometimes behaved barbarically... randome Dec 2013 #22

Well that is the point now is it not? zeemike Dec 2013 #26

When "local police sometimes behaved barbarically"... ljm2002 Dec 2013 #36

That is how I see it too. zeemike Dec 2013 #60

Nowhere near the order of magnitude karynnj Dec 2013 #58

Wrong, lots of elected officials had a lot to do with Occupy. But they were politicians who sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #49

+100000000000 woo me with science Dec 2013 #12

Kerry has always been consistent on the right to protest karynnj Dec 2013 #21

Ah those pesky facts. great white snark Dec 2013 #25

And what did he say when the cops beat the shit out of them? zeemike Dec 2013 #28

Well That's Great To Know... But... WillyT Dec 2013 #34

Please let us know what he said about... ljm2002 Dec 2013 #37

Or the near killing by the robo cops of two US Military Veterans. Did anyone go visit those two sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #50

Hillary was doing it before Kerry... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2013 #32

I'm curious, does anyone know what Kerry said about this? Rex Dec 2013 #33

Why would the then-Senator from MA be expected to comment on an incident MADem Dec 2013 #55