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Octafish

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1. Can you imagine how different the USA and the world would be if JFK had lived?
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 11:43 AM
Dec 2013

Who knows? The guy might've been re-elected and then his brother, Robert, might've succeeded him. Imagine 16 years of peace and prosperity; putting people ahead of profits; exploring space instead of making war on earth?

Instead, we've had mostly 50 years of "Money trumps peace" -- the very words of George W Bush on Feb. 14, 2007, uttered at a press conference in which not a single of the callow, cowed press corpse saw fit to ask a follow-up.



Cindy Sheehan tried to bring it to our nation's attention, but, for some reason, the press didn't run with that story, either.

This is the same mass media that swore North Vietnam attacked America in the Gulf of Tonkin, swore Bush had no idea bin Laden was determined to strike in the United States, and twice swore Iraq had WMDs, and swore for 50 years that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

As for the unelected warmonger George W Bush's Poppy: What was he doing in Dallas on November 22, 1963?



Transcript of above:



TO: SAC, HOUSTON DATE: 11-22-63

FROM: SA GRAHAM W. KITCHEL

SUBJECT: UNKNOWN SUBJECT;
ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT
JOHN F. KENNEDY

At 1:45 p.m. Mr. GEORGE H. W. BUSH, President of the Zapata Off-Shore Drilling Company, Houston, Texas, residence 5525 Briar, Houston, telephonically furnished the following information to writer by long distance telephone call from Tyler, Texas.

BUSH stated that he wanted to be kept confidential but wanted to furnish hearsay that he recalled hearing in recent weeks, the day and source unknown. He stated that one JAMES PARROTT has been talking of killing the President when he comes to Houston.

BUSH stated that PARROTT is possibly a student at the University of Houston and is active in political matters in this area. He stated that he felt Mrs. FAWLEY, telephone number SU 2-5239, or ARLINE SMITH, telephone number JA 9-9194 of the Harris County Republican Party Headquarters would be able to furnish additional information regarding the identity of PARROTT.

BUSH stated that he was proceeding to Dallas, Texas, would remain in the Sheraton-Dallas Hotel and return to his residence on 11-23-63. His office telephone number is CA 2-0395.

# # #



Then, a week later, Mr. J Edgar Hoover, the same guy who said there was no Mafia and played the ponies on Nov. 23, 1963, reported "Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency" provided info on the pro-Castro and anti-Castro communities' thoughts on the assassination of President Kennedy:

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3669640





Date: November 29, 1963

To: Director
Bureau of Intelligence and Research
Department of State

From: John Edgar Hoover, Director

Subject: ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY
NOVEMBER 22, 1963


Our Miami, Florida, Office on November 23, 1963, advised that the Office of Coordinator of Cuban Affairs in Miami advised that the Department of State feels some misguided anti-Castro group might capitalize on the present situation and undertake an unauthorized raid against Cuba, believing that the assassination of President John F. Kennedy might herald a change in U. S. policy, which is not true.

Our sources and informants familiar with Cuban matters in the Miami area advise that the general feeling in the anti-Castro Cuban community is one of stunned disbelief and, even among those who did not entirely agree with the President's policy concerning Cuba, the feeling is that the President's death represents a great loss not only to the U. S. but to all of Latin America. These sources know of no plans for unauthorized action against Cuba.

An informant who has furnished reliable information in the past and who is close to a small pro-Castro group in Miami has advised that these individuals are afraid that the assassination of the President may result in strong repressive measures being taken against them and, although pro-Castro in their feelings, regret the assassination.

The substance of the foregoing information was orally furnished to Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency and Captain William Edwards of the Defense Intelligence Agency on November 23, 1963, by Mr. W. T. Forsyth of this Bureau.

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Gee. Odd coincidence, seeing Poppy's name turn up again and again over the past 50 years. And just because he served as president doesn't mean I trust him, especially considering his track record, no matter what SidDithers or environmentalgraffiti write.

For those who believe those in secret government who hold onto metadata and the rest of the inside knowledge and Top Secrets are all good patriots, remember what the national security state has done for We the People lately: Kept the secrets that most benefit them -- the warmonger have-mores -- and most penalized the 99-percent We the People of democracy.

That secret government is at the heart of the rot that is modern America. The management of that same secret government, after being ordered to stop trying to kill Castro, failed to tell President Kennedy about ZR/RIFLE. Then, they didn't tell the Warren Commission they hadn't told him. Later, when asked by Congress, they also lied.

That same secret national security leadership would later tell President Johnson that North Vietnam attacked our destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin, later bug the Watergate on behalf of CREEP, later meet with the Ayatollah's people to extend the hostage ordeal in Iran, tell Ronald Pruneface that trading arms for hostages and sending the profits to go around Congress in Central America was a good idea, got paid big time by petrodollars at BCCI and big bucks from Rev Moon, would help loot the S&Ls and later the entire banking system, and made war on Iraq and Afghanistan and other nations that had zero to do with September 11.

Odd, that long string of unconstitutionality by the people running the cia and nsa and all the rest of the secret alphabet soup in the the secret government. Going from their actions, the actions of the national security state are treasonous as they only serve to benefit themselves -- the friends of the Dulles Brothers, Harrimans, Rockefellers, the Have-Mores -- at the expense of everyone else, the BFEE. And while it didn't start there, what we live in today was made possible by what went on down there in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963.
Can you imagine how different the USA and the world would be if JFK had lived? Octafish Dec 2013 #1
My favourite JFK conspiracy site is this one, though... SidDithers Dec 2013 #2
What you consider genius shows what kind of person you are. Octafish Dec 2013 #5
It's not the assassination that I find funny, octafish... SidDithers Dec 2013 #6
He knows that. zappaman Dec 2013 #7
LOL, lighten the hell up. Dramatic much?? nt Logical Dec 2013 #25
It's Schtick....but not especially good. zappaman Dec 2013 #26
k&r Absolutely the best! Best laugh I had in ages. idwiyo Dec 2013 #31
Kick and REC!!! n/t zappaman Dec 2013 #32
Don't ask some to "imagine" -- this thread is about advancing logical fallacies KurtNYC Dec 2013 #13
They can't all be right...but they can all be wrong. brooklynite Dec 2013 #3
It was the BFEE... SidDithers Dec 2013 #4
I'm stealing that one... greytdemocrat Dec 2013 #9
Full credit to zappaman for that one... SidDithers Dec 2013 #10
Why you find fun in the BFEE is your own affair, SidDithers. zappaman Dec 2013 #12
I like the UFO coverup Theory. zappaman Dec 2013 #8
Kennedy was apparently killed in 8-bit...nt SidDithers Dec 2013 #49
K&R Coyotl Dec 2013 #11
Kicking after the unlock... SidDithers Dec 2013 #14
I like a combo of the CIA/LBJ/GHWB CT's NightWatcher Dec 2013 #15
Both Oswald and Ruby acted alone, respectively. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #16
That's my favorite too! zappaman Dec 2013 #17
I think we used "favorite" in different contexts. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2013 #18
And even if there WERE two or even three shooters A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #21
So they all happened to shoot at the same time with the same ammo? zappaman Dec 2013 #23
LOL, you people crack me up. nt Logical Dec 2013 #27
The "Two Lone Nuts" theory! Fozzledick Dec 2013 #28
... SidDithers Dec 2013 #29
I noticed the Jim Garrison phanbois never mention this one... Archae Dec 2013 #19
Garrison was a nut, zappaman Dec 2013 #20
I think this CT beats the shit out of all other CTs, though too bad it doesn't have aliens in it :( idwiyo Dec 2013 #30
Everything's better with aliens... SidDithers Dec 2013 #33
You know what's even better than that...? zappaman Dec 2013 #34
Oh wow... SidDithers Dec 2013 #35
I smell box office! zappaman Dec 2013 #36
WOW... I am in awe... This is so... This is like totally... ... ... idwiyo Dec 2013 #37
11) The Warren Report :) grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #22
You can make fun of the Warren Report all you want A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #24
JFK Died November 16, 2003 Wolf Frankula Dec 2013 #38
True zappaman Dec 2013 #40
One might imagine that Colonel North and NSA Poindexter would have loved to have pointed at space al LanternWaste Dec 2013 #39
Who Really Killed JFK? Experts Pick the Wildest Conspiracy Theories SidDithers Dec 2013 #41
Thanks Agent Mike... WillyT Dec 2013 #42
Another one, from the CBC... SidDithers Dec 2013 #43
Good one! zappaman Dec 2013 #44
Totally!...nt SidDithers Dec 2013 #45
JFK Conspiracy Monglers Convalescent Home... SidDithers Dec 2013 #46
#1 Lone gunman. n/t PowerToThePeople Dec 2013 #47
Ha!...nt SidDithers Dec 2013 #48
Why go to all that trouble nyquil_man Dec 2013 #50
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