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In reply to the discussion: The Dutch: Traditional, or Racist? [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)71. They were early to the gate, as were the Portuguese.
Of course, well before they got involved in the practice, the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Ottomans, etc. all had their hand in. They did "African" business along the northern littorals, by and large, when they were on the continent, but it's a business that is as old as time. The Europeans like to look down their noses at America, but they were the ones selling "the goods" as it were. Rather like dealers looking down their noses at users....
Centuries from now they'll probably call those poor people in Chinese factories, housed miserably and working 12 hour days in shitty conditions with suicide nets, slaves. Just because ya get a paycheck doesn't necessarily make ya free!
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I think an awareness on a national level of the realities of racism is a first step.
MADem
Nov 2013
#17
This is a little different than a symbol that the Nazis stole and used for their own purposes.
MADem
Nov 2013
#7
Years ago my son, who idolized Michael Jordan, wanted to be his hero for Halloween.
Nye Bevan
Nov 2013
#19
Interesting map. I think their work is incomplete, but it certainly is a starting point. nt
MADem
Nov 2013
#11
Nice link. "Anglo and Latin countries most tolerant" except for Venezuela and Dominican Republic.
pampango
Nov 2013
#14
I have represented African-Americans in lawsuits under the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Laelth
Nov 2013
#64
Your continued attacks on the credibility and knowledge of an ally are counterproductive.
Laelth
Nov 2013
#67
I am going to meet (for the 1st time) my Dutch future brother in law in two hours, I will ask him.
CBGLuthier
Nov 2013
#16
It's been going on for WAAAAAAY longer than they had any substantial immigration.
MADem
Nov 2013
#39
The point is exactly what was written. It is not 'OK' or 'not OK', it is Holland and up to the Dutch
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2013
#43
How about the people who are offended by their "traditions?" You're saying they need to shut up?
MADem
Nov 2013
#45
There is no right to being free from offense (including you NoCal). I'm not defending their
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2013
#49
I could not disagree with you more. I think your views are really strange, in fact.
MADem
Nov 2013
#50
Of course you couldn't, big surprise there. You're more than happy to tell everybody else
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2013
#60
David Sedaris has a hilarious piece about this regarding our Santa vs. europe's St. Nicholas.
Pretzel_Warrior
Nov 2013
#47