"For an educated middle-class woman to face public arrest and a strip search is almost unimaginable"

[sabrina 1]

130. What an odd post. Do you really think that people who SUPPORT our laws and principles are the ones

'bitching about the US'? Talk about misrepresentation, and total misunderstanding of what caring about your country actually means. It DOESN'T mean waving the flag and yelling USA! USA! when our leaders are misrepresenting us to the world, causing so much hatred for a country WE KNOW is NOT eg, GEORGE BUSH and his policies or Cheney.

Sorry if I am the kind of person who doesn't agree that excusing government wrong doing is showing 'love for our country'. I consider the apologists to be the ones who have zero respect for this country and am sick to death of the excuses being made for the criminals who have abused their power and caused so much disrespect for this country around the world.

You are playing the victim here. YOU don't like my posts? I'm not particularly fond of yours either, but I'm willing to discuss issues, rather than whine that I am 'sick to death' of what other people say. But since you brought it up I AM SICK TO DEATH of people who apologize for every crime committed by our government because it is OUR government. So sick you have no idea.

I would have preferred to address the issues rather get personal, but that was your choice so now you know you are not the ONLY one who is sick to death of other people's posts.

And whether you like it or not, we DO have still, thankfully, a system of justice that is supposed to treat every accused person the same way. No, we don't do that, see Wall St. Criminals eg, and War Criminals, that privileged class that we can't seem to apply justice to. Speaking of privilege. But it is better when it does work, than any other I can think of.

And there it is again, the comparison of the US to 'Iran, Russia, China and India', rather than to Norway, Denmark or any other developed nation. If we have sunk so low that we can only claim we are better than the worst rather than on a par with the best, it explains why we are having this conversation in the first place.