You wanna see misogyny?! This is misogyny. DU internecine wars notwithstanding

[boston bean]

12. Ok, let's break this down some.

Seems as though you are trying to say that what feminists point out here on DU is NEVER misogyny, but what we see at the link is.

Well, I can tell you that many of the same arguments Rush et al is making have been posted here on DU.

1)I understand the reality that some moms are single moms not by their choice. And I understand that some women believe they can have it all, and that's the crux of the problem. I have to tell you, as a man, where women are told that men have so many more advantages in society, we can't have it all. Women, you can't have it all either. Life is a series of compromises and choices.

- Constantly we are reminded here on DU that issues that concern women, aren't really issues, they are choices and men have it just as bad.

2) When you look at biology, look at the natural world, the roles of a male and female in society, and the other animals, the male typically is the dominant role. The female, it's not antithesis, or it's not competing, it's a complementary role. We as people in a smart society have lost the ability to have complimentary relationships in nuclear families, and it's tearing us apart. [Fox Business, Lou Dobbs Tonight, 5/29/13, via Media Matters]

- Constantly we are told our issues stem not from a culture, but from biology and these problems ought just be accepted cause that is the way it is... nature/biology dictates it.

3) WSJ's Taranto: "Female Sexual Freedom" Has Led To A "War On Men." James Taranto, editor of The Wall Street Journal's editorial page, accused "female sexual freedom" of causing a "war on men" during the June 18 edition of WSJ Live's Opinion Journal Live. [Wall Street Journal, Opinion Journal Live, 6/18/13, via Media Matters]

- Constantly we are reminded that our very presence as feminist a WAR on MEN on DU.

4) furthersRush Limbaugh: Feminism Is Rooted In "Sexual Perversion." On the August 27 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show, host Limbaugh said that feminism "is based in what most people would classify as sexual perversion," later characterizing feminist leadership as "enraged" and "angry." [Premiere Radio Networks, The Rush Limbaugh Show, 8/27/13, via Media Matters]

- Constantly feminists on DU are reminded that it is the way, the tone, that causes all this strife on DU, that we are ANGRY, that we are damaged goods.

5) Fox Business Host: "Is There Something About The Female Brain That Is A Deterrent" To Women Being Tech Executives? On the November 18 edition of Fox Business' Varney & Co, host Stuart Varney wondered, "Is there something about the female brain that is a deterrent for getting on board with tech?" [Fox Business, Varney & Co, 11/18/13]

- Just try discussing issue with women entering the tech field, and see what happens. Point out the sexism within it and well, you better get your flame suit on.

6) Fox's John Stossel: Women Are Paid Less Than Men Because Women "Have Their Priorities In Order." On Fox & Friends on August 8, Fox Business' John Stossel and co-host Steve Doocy discussed the gender pay gap. While admitting that women are in fact paid 77 cents for each dollar men make, Stossel claimed that the discrepancy is because "we don't work the same jobs." Stossel went on to say "women have their priorities in order. They often choose jobs that are less time-consuming, not so far away, and not as dangerous." He concluded that if a true pay gap existed, the market would have sorted it out. [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 8/3/13, via Media Matters]

- Hear it all the time, men do the tough, dangerous jobs and it's the feminists fault.

7) Fox Host Steve Doocy: "So That Is A Myth, That Men Get Paid More Than Women." During the same Fox & Friends segment, Doocy asked Stossel if the differences between boys and girls are so clear, "why are the feminists still pushing gender equality?" After Stossel argued that there is no true gender pay gap because women work "less time-consuming" jobs, Doocy agreed saying, "So that is a myth, that men get paid more than women." [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 8/3/13, via Media Matters]

- As those in the mens group how they feel about this. They feel it isn't true either.

8) Limbaugh: Men Should Avoid Sexual Harassment Accusation By Asking Women "Will You Please Ask Your Breasts To Stop Staring At My Eyes?" On his radio show, Rush Limbaugh offered his "suggestion" to avoid being accused of sexual harassment: "You walk up to the woman and say, 'Will you please ask your breasts to stop staring at my eyes?'" [Premiere Radio Networks, The Rush Limbaugh Show, 12/9/13]

- Right here on DU it was suggested women ought to wear burqua's if they don't want the harassment men give them on the street.

9) Limbaugh Cracks Up At Notion Of Marital Rape. Rush Limbaugh took material for his November 26 radio program from "satire" blog Diversity Chronicles, choking down laughter while reading a post that mocked the notion of marital rape and explaining, "this is a website that does satire on how white men are blamed for everything." [Premiere Radio Networks, The Rush Limbaugh Show, 11/26/13, via Media Matters]

- Many times we get to hear how just how bad the men have it, when discussing feminist issues. Negating positive feminist discussion and how feminism actually does address issues for men as well.

10) WSJ's Taranto Says Of Alleged Domestic Assault: George Zimmerman Simply "Guilty Of Being Male." After George Zimmerman allegedly threatened his estranged wife withviolence, James Taranto tweeted that Zimmerman was "guilty of being male"

- I don't know about you but I've seen a bunch of comment when serious discussion of feminist issues are being discussed and you get the pat response of "guilty of being male".

We've heard it all hear before as well. If you don't believe, truly you haven't been paying attention. Is every scenario the same as listed above, no, but the responses and behavior and actions of some here, match the same responses you get from those misogynists you recognize in Limbaugh, Erickson, Stossel, etc.