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Pretzel_Warrior

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66. because the only one "in the room" as it were was little ol Pretzel Boy.

Thu Dec 26, 2013, 03:58 PM

Dec 2013

So I chose to ask what she was referring to. So far, the group going apeshit over this link I posted have provided very little hard proof for the incendiary claims they are laying down about male misogyny on DU.

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You wanna see misogyny?! This is misogyny. DU internecine wars notwithstanding [View all] Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 OP

Do you also define racism for people of color? redqueen Dec 2013 #1

Just providing a link. Enjoy or don't. It is your choice. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #2

are you interrupting terminal uniqueness lol nt msongs Dec 2013 #7

heh. I had to look that up. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #42

I dunno, do people define what men are thinking when they look at a woman? The Straight Story Dec 2013 #3

I've heard that happens sometimes. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #11

I'm sorry, but that was uncalled for. nt AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #21

Yes, that is misogyny. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #4

True. I just saw this Media Matters piece on FB and thought Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #6

I'm not going to ignore misogyny and sexism among liberals and progressives NuclearDem Dec 2013 #16

go for it. it's your bandwidth. I happen to think there are more important things going on than Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #24

So, then, why your near constant presence chervilant Dec 2013 #43

near constant? I do believe you overstate. I've avoided most of the recent threads Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #44

Then you clearly are not paying attention. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #46

I'm just waiting for proof. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #61

"Same with man hate." xulamaude Dec 2013 #72

no. but there are women who hate men. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #77

And there are also women who hate women. xulamaude Dec 2013 #81

I guess men win the big hate stick then... Whisp Dec 2013 #132

+a gazillion chervilant Dec 2013 #41

when have I called anyone here a radical feminist? Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #45

So, does 'not' having called anyone a radical feminist xulamaude Dec 2013 #49

it is a necessary but insufficient condition of being a good guy. look up logical tautologies Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #51

No, no, no xulamaude Dec 2013 #57

the reason why is pretty obvious Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #59

It seems that you chose to take that 'radical feminists' xulamaude Dec 2013 #64

because the only one "in the room" as it were was little ol Pretzel Boy. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #66

Are you going to answer my question? xulamaude Dec 2013 #67

already asked and answered Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #71

Even though "asked and answered"... xulamaude Dec 2013 #73

That's not what radical feminism is. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #76

well there you go. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #85

Yes, thank you :) xulamaude Dec 2013 #87

So, beside the fact that DU is a patriarchal shithole, (founded by three guys, you know), and ... 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #141

What? Where'd you come from? nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #142

Been here for 11 years, but I'll try and remember to ask your permission before posting again. 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #145

How have I been enjoying myself? That one? xulamaude Dec 2013 #146

Sounds like a tough gig. I guess we all have our cross to bear. 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #147

Except I don't find it to be a cross to bear xulamaude Dec 2013 #149

Bravo, this is not your own private property. CTyankee Dec 2013 #154

Because when we do provide links, they get hidden or alerted on as call outs NuclearDem Dec 2013 #68

"It's easy to find too, it's usually in a subthread" xulamaude Dec 2013 #78

the burden usually lies with the one making the argument Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #86

Cheap parlor trick, eh? xulamaude Dec 2013 #90

No, just stupid, wrongheaded, and suffering from a very blinkered world view. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #74

So "stupid" is not xulamaude Dec 2013 #83

No, not at all like ex-smokers. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #95

+1 NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #100

That response was not directed at you, chervilant Dec 2013 #129

+100 Tien1985 Dec 2013 #56

Sorry to late-post but I just started reading this thread and wanted to give you a quick note. leeroysphitz Dec 2013 #109

When did supporting Democratic candidates mean tolerating sexism and misogyny among progressives? NuclearDem Dec 2013 #144

Sometimes misogyny is obvious, yet quite often it's not... LanternWaste Dec 2013 #5

Know role or shut up. And we hear some of this from some men yet seabeyond Dec 2013 #8

more like "choose your battles". But I respect your right to hear "misogniny" in virtually anything Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #13

You have no idea... EOTE Dec 2013 #65

and you totally rolled over the point i made. we are addressing those issues on fox, HERE seabeyond Dec 2013 #80

my participation in my thread is now over Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #91

piece of work. close your eyes, stick fingers in ears sing a song seabeyond Dec 2013 #93

What?! Cut and run?! nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #98

When someone tells me, Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #19

is that a Haiku that doesn't quite fit the parameters? Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #47

you would be the man following along, dissin me for no rhyme or reason, telling me you take nothing seabeyond Dec 2013 #82

Yet, we're the ones accused of xulamaude Dec 2013 #96

You position a child, for example, Capt. Obvious Dec 2013 #97

This is getting to be utterly cruel. xulamaude Dec 2013 #99

+ one for a learning moment, serious and learning. OilemFirchen Dec 2013 #127

Might as well jump in!! nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #131

I dipped my toes, thank you. OilemFirchen Dec 2013 #134

"Know role or shut up" NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #79

the OP. quit missing with du, loook at fox. but, fox is doing what is happening on the board. seabeyond Dec 2013 #84

You think the OP was telling you to shut up? NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #88

again. creative reading. no one told you to shut up. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #89

you said focus on fox, not du. it is happening on du. yet... you repeat seabeyond Dec 2013 #92

"did you literally tell me to shut up? no" NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #101

You'll notice that many of us xulamaude Dec 2013 #104

Yes, I noticed that many of you interpreted it the same way. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #108

One in which you were not "offended" xulamaude Dec 2013 #111

No, I was not offended. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #112

Clearly not, but you labeled our calling xulamaude Dec 2013 #115

as i clearly stated, and this poster you reply to is very much into what is literally posted, seabeyond Dec 2013 #116

But, hey, only the boys xulamaude Dec 2013 #119

nah. i think SOME mens purpose is to creating the hysterical emotional angry woman at all cost. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #120

I almost always disagree with your posts, Seabeyond... NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #121

I'm likely conflating posters, OilemFirchen Dec 2013 #135

wtf? what? you men just creep out of the woodwork to throw out insults now? seabeyond Dec 2013 #136

Insult? OilemFirchen Dec 2013 #140

Just call em as I see em. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #122

Pot meet kettle, then. xulamaude Dec 2013 #124

i am fine thank you. well, i am sick, but fine. got medicine. thanks. but, you call them seabeyond Dec 2013 #126

Here's misogyny: Sending mothers' sons to die in illegal "wars." WinkyDink Dec 2013 #9

sounds a bit like misanthropy as well Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #48

Well, there is that, too. Death-cults rule the world. WinkyDink Dec 2013 #123

Dear Fox: Stupid, mean and misogynistic are no ways to go through life. Scuba Dec 2013 #10

Ok, let's break this down some. boston bean Dec 2013 #12

I'll be honest. I'm not going to read through your long "fisking" of my Media Matters article Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #14

ignore, deflect, deny. It's all been said and done here, and feminists when pointing it boston bean Dec 2013 #15

You're aren't even going to bother to read it, but you're going to comment on it anyway kcr Dec 2013 #18

unless she has links to back up her assertions about what was said.... Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #22

I've seen it, too. Plenty of times. kcr Dec 2013 #34

Yeah, that seems to be the case, I think. AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #25

agree with you there. this too shall pass. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #28

"When all you've got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #53

And let me be honest with you, PW. And in a way that could be helpful. CTyankee Dec 2013 #117

"Seems as though you are trying to say that what feminists point out here on DU is NEVER misogyny, redqueen Dec 2013 #17

so my posting an article link is somehow proofe I deny misogynistic things are ever said on DU? Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #20

It's the wording of your title. The implication is as clear as day. nt redqueen Dec 2013 #23

clear as day for people who are looking for things to be offended by Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #27

What makes you think I'm offended. boston bean Dec 2013 #32

If your intent isn't to deny, then why the links or it doesn't happen reply to me upthread? n/t kcr Dec 2013 #36

never said it didn't happen here. I just appreciate discussing actual things said Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #50

The time to do that is in the actual threads kcr Dec 2013 #54

So, after a number of disingenuous, defensive responses, you've decided to chervilant Dec 2013 #55

And what we see at the link is what I often see here in one form or another. nt boston bean Dec 2013 #26

Surely not! redqueen Dec 2013 #29

Or this, either! Nevah! Nevah, I say! redqueen Dec 2013 #30

Or this, either! redqueen Dec 2013 #31

Or this! Here, people claim sexual objectification doesn't even exist! That's totally different! redqueen Dec 2013 #33

And nobody here says addressing rape culture is an effort to "criminalize male sexuality"! Ever! redqueen Dec 2013 #35

thanks for all the links to people on DU saying these things Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #40

Any discussion of objectification is called an effort to "criminalize male sexuality" by some here. redqueen Dec 2013 #52

so you've directed me to posts made over a year ago discussing women's pay gap? Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #58

So, as long as they argue that women deserve to be paid less nicely, that's ok? redqueen Dec 2013 #62

Dismissing the very links your requested because they invalidate your premise do not LanternWaste Dec 2013 #113

oh... i am in pain and cannot laugh. and still... seabeyond Dec 2013 #118

the trouble with those links hfojvt Dec 2013 #103

Pretzel Warrior is no stranger to these types of threads. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #105

Well, if the OP is one of the 90% kcr Dec 2013 #106

but spending 3 hours in a day is NOT hfojvt Dec 2013 #107

That still doesn't change my argument kcr Dec 2013 #110

I'm gonna stop cause this is TOO FUCKING EASY! redqueen Dec 2013 #37

I know... I was like wow... many of the things I've read right here on DU. boston bean Dec 2013 #38

OK....let's look at this a bit... davidn3600 Dec 2013 #128

When I hear the same things coming from people on DU boston bean Dec 2013 #133

"men also have problems and issues and legitimate concerns" xulamaude Dec 2013 #137

hey david, i am all over the mens issues and standing up for men about 90% more than you men. seabeyond Dec 2013 #139

No kidding, sea xulamaude Dec 2013 #143

"You men" "you betcha" "why aren't men taking care of boys" The Straight Story Dec 2013 #150

An example of going after a feminist rather than talking about the boys. Good job seabeyond Dec 2013 #153

"men also have problems and issues and legitimate concerns" NuclearDem Dec 2013 #151

sing it brother... i stand behind you on all that righteous rant. seabeyond Dec 2013 #155

Because only RW Fundie Whacknuts xulamaude Dec 2013 #39

Nah.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #60

By this logic there can be no criticism of the President or Democratic Congress people. intaglio Dec 2013 #63

nope. just bringing fresh perspective to what we're really fighting against Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #69

Unfortunately your fresh perspective is about maintaining the status quo intaglio Dec 2013 #102

thank you. Matariki Dec 2013 #138

Alright, you clearly do not get it. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #148

just because there is blatant racism somewhere, doesn't excuse less overt racism on DU La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2013 #70

agreed. I have asked people to point out what was said specifically Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #75

i find denial of sexism to be 'truly misogynistic'. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2013 #94

I'm kind of worried about the circular reasoning this leads to. redgreenandblue Dec 2013 #125

I think that's the point. NaturalHigh Dec 2013 #130

claiming a prejudice that is well established and experienced by its victims La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2013 #156

Certainly examples of unveiled misogyny etherealtruth Dec 2013 #114

Marbles in my mouth Limbaugh is a Misanthrope, thank God orpupilofnature57 Dec 2013 #152