You wanna see misogyny?! This is misogyny. DU internecine wars notwithstanding

[boston bean]

133. When I hear the same things coming from people on DU

that right wing misogynists use against feminists, you will have to excuse me for pointing that out.

There is absolutely no failure to communicate from me. I'm pretty straight forward, and really am not rude nor do I name call. I point out what I see is wrong with that particular point of view. If it's a misogynist or sexist POV in my opinion, I have every right to say it. Same thing for racism and homophobia.

Of course everyone has problems. Women have particular issues that stem from a system of oppression that we do care to discuss sometimes without being called man haters for daring to discuss. The discussion is not an automatic put down of men or their issues. However, if they wish to blame feminism for their problems, you will probably see a vociferous back and forth. Feminism addresses mens issues as well as womans issues. In fact, feminists are mens allies in their issues. They focus on the problems from a female centric point of view, but if there was success, ie gender roles loosening, men would see a benefit to many of the problems the patriarchy creates for them as well. The two are not mutually exclusive.

However, most of the time when feminists are having hotly debated threads with some, we are speaking to people who do not believe the patriarchy exists or that women have any real structural limitations placed on them, and that feminism is the reason for their problems.

Hope that helps clear things up for you.