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cinnabonbon

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44. I think we can agree
Sun Dec 29, 2013, 07:04 AM
Dec 2013

that if we are to stop exploiting workers, then everyone needs to work together to create a system that is fair. What I see, when people bring gender issues into it, isn't to dispute that. They are simply making sure that people know that things aren't equal yet. If we are to create a fair system, we must first acknowledge the faults the old one had.

the biggest problem for women in america [View all] arely staircase Dec 2013 OP
thanks for the rec arely staircase Dec 2013 #1
So many social ills stem from disparity NoOneMan Dec 2013 #2
class inequality is the greatest threat to america arely staircase Dec 2013 #4
I think climate change is the greatest threat to America and the rest of the globe NoOneMan Dec 2013 #5
Amazingly, this isn't the 19th century BainsBane Dec 2013 #13
People could think about complex interactions in the 19th century; intersectionality is old wine El_Johns Dec 2013 #43
exploitation of workers is not meaningless arely staircase Dec 2013 #46
No one said they were, that's ridiculous. bettyellen Dec 2013 #49
Another man telling me what I'm supposed to care about BainsBane Dec 2013 #3
care or not arely staircase Dec 2013 #6
Silly woman theHandpuppet Dec 2013 #14
Systemic actual rape of women has absolutely nil to do with unfair wages. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #7
I disagree arely staircase Dec 2013 #9
Power is the root of all struggle, not money. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #10
and economic power is arely staircase Dec 2013 #21
Power manifests itself in many ways. To understand that is to be multitalented. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #23
it still boils down to control of resourses arely staircase Dec 2013 #24
As I stated first, actual rape of women has nothing to do with the pay gap. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #27
and I am talking about the daily rape of every woman and arely staircase Dec 2013 #29
I understand what you're talking about and your argument is not new to me. Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #35
no argument then arely staircase Dec 2013 #38
I think we can agree cinnabonbon Dec 2013 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Dec 2013 #45
"daily rape" xulamaude Dec 2013 #57
met·a·phor arely staircase Dec 2013 #58
And it's also offensive to victims of actual, xulamaude Dec 2013 #59
then we simply disagree arely staircase Dec 2013 #61
"rape is an act of control and humiliation" xulamaude Dec 2013 #63
immediate, no. nor directly arely staircase Dec 2013 #64
And as I've said, your "metaphorical" use of the word rape xulamaude Dec 2013 #65
Poverty and Sexual Violence arely staircase Dec 2013 #68
Yeah, I'm familiar with all of that. xulamaude Dec 2013 #69
"Poverty is among the root causes of sexual violence and has a daily presence in the lives of many arely staircase Dec 2013 #71
You are not answering my specific question. xulamaude Dec 2013 #73
Is poverty the cause of rape? no arely staircase Dec 2013 #75
Thank you. xulamaude Dec 2013 #76
I stand by the metaphor nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #77
would be an absolute dismissal of victims of rape. as long as you recognize what you stand by. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #78
IYHO. nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #79
of course. yes. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #80
Okay. I guess the rape victims here at DU xulamaude Dec 2013 #81
+1 Dr. Strange Dec 2013 #74
Thank you. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #83
Holy shit. Someone actually went there. nt madinmaryland Dec 2013 #8
Frederick Engels "Within the family (man) is the bourgeois and the wife represents the proletariat." Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #11
Here's an idea: Why don't you let women tell you what women's problems are? LeftyMom Dec 2013 #12
I do nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #15
the biggest problem for women in america is men telling us what our biggest problem is, and whining niyad Dec 2013 #16
Oh, how I long for "unrec". PeaceNikki Dec 2013 #17
And I thought I could focus on more then one thing at a time... Ohio Joe Dec 2013 #18
Yep, that's the message BainsBane Dec 2013 #19
quite the contrary. the adjective "most important" implies other problems arely staircase Dec 2013 #47
ahhh... But it's woman that need to shut the fuck up... Ohio Joe Dec 2013 #48
Thank you- to write this OP about how women's concerns are always secondary .... bettyellen Dec 2013 #51
your words, not mine arely staircase Dec 2013 #53
Your OP was not directed at women? Ohio Joe Dec 2013 #55
my op directed at anyone who wishes to read it arely staircase Dec 2013 #56
Yeah... I think it's bullshit Ohio Joe Dec 2013 #60
Please direct me to one "anti-feminist" post I have written. nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #62
This one Ohio Joe Dec 2013 #66
As I have said. It is directed at whoever wishes to read it. nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #67
uh huh... Ohio Joe Dec 2013 #70
Excuse Me But, Megahurtz Dec 2013 #82
As a woman and a member of the working... one_voice Dec 2013 #20
well put nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #22
If he had phrased it as about class exploitation as a central problem facing America BainsBane Dec 2013 #25
I haven't yold anyone ehat to think arely staircase Dec 2013 #26
Why would you say the "biggest problem for women in America"? BainsBane Dec 2013 #28
class exploitation is americas biggest problem arely staircase Dec 2013 #30
Wow, you got all that? one_voice Dec 2013 #32
It's just a complete coincidence that it came in the midst of GD threads about rape culture BainsBane Dec 2013 #36
I'm glad you brought up that last part because I was about to say... Gravitycollapse Dec 2013 #37
I usually don't wade into those... one_voice Dec 2013 #40
my point is not to stir any shit arely staircase Dec 2013 #41
Why Isn't Anyone Else Getting This? Megahurtz Dec 2013 #84
while class issue is a big issue and hits us all, we also know within our class there are misogynist seabeyond Dec 2013 #86
Coincidentally, it's also the biggest problem for men. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #31
Common ground?... one_voice Dec 2013 #33
+ 1 nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #39
or simply a dismissal of womens issues? can we find common gorund. absolutely. do we do it at the seabeyond Dec 2013 #72
But Not Equally. Megahurtz Dec 2013 #85
Seems the biggest problem is expressing an opinion without bouncing it off HOF first. lol Demo_Chris Dec 2013 #34
K&R El_Johns Dec 2013 #42
Disagree. Biggest problem for WOMEN is reproductive slavery. MH1 Dec 2013 #50
Huge problem, in addition to robbing women of self determination bettyellen Dec 2013 #52
the regression of womens' reproductive rights is indeed one of the most important issues in American arely staircase Dec 2013 #54
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