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idwiyo

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231. I am assuming you are complitely ignorant so I will explain.

Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:28 AM

Dec 2013

I will make it very simple:

There are women and man who are born with a genetic conditions that can manifest itself in part as 'wrong' genitalia and/or other issues like lack or over-abundance of specific hormons.

Females with this genetic conditions might have male sexual organs, could lack breast development, etc. In this case SRS can be performed to correct the genitalia problem. Other problems are corrected with hormonal therapy.

These women are no different from women who are born without this genetic condition. They are women, not man. There is no difference between us when it comes to self-identifying as females.

The same applies to males who are born with a genetic condition that manifests itself as 'wrong' genitalia.

To imply that somehow these man and women are 'fake' or 'not natural' is a homophobic bigotry at it's worst. This is no different than saying that gay chose to be gay. It can be excused once, assuming one was completely ignorant on the subject.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] woolldog Dec 2013 OP

wtf? simply creating this Op make me wonder more than what you posted. seabeyond Dec 2013 #1

Probably a response to another thread Scootaloo Dec 2013 #3

hmmm. k. not following the other threads. thanks. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #6

well this thread made me wonder: woolldog Dec 2013 #7

thank you for the clarification. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #9

you might want to add link to OP. otherwise, this may not go well. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #12

Only if you don't want to date gay men. MNBrewer Dec 2013 #46

I see a difference there treestar Dec 2013 #48

my phobia used to be that I'd date a woman and she'd end up being Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #312

Reminds me of that 80s movie treestar Dec 2013 #313

I'd make a joke about your post but Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #2

please do. woolldog Dec 2013 #8

Ehhh...I'm sure you wouldn't be offended Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #14

That 'joke' was a homophobic crap that should have gotten your arse kicked off DU. idwiyo Dec 2013 #49

It still might BainsBane Dec 2013 #51

I sure hope so. It makes me sick to even think that shit can be posted on DU. idwiyo Dec 2013 #54

Oh lighten up, Francis Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #56

Your 'joke' was insinuation that transwomen are 'fake', not 'real' women. That's homophobic to boot. idwiyo Dec 2013 #60

Actually it wasn't ...since body enhancement Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #69

Yes it was. You made that statement in a thread about transwomen. It was homophobic to boot. idwiyo Dec 2013 #79

Good lord, you clearly live to be offended Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #84

You clearly think that homophobia is not a big deal. A 'joke'. idwiyo Dec 2013 #88

Ohhh, now I'm homophobic because I won't Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #89

You insinuated that transwomen are 'fake'. That's why you woudn't date them, according to you. idwiyo Dec 2013 #94

Only if you make believe everyone getting plastic surgery Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #95

According to you sex reassignment surgery is the same as plastic surgery. That's homophobic to boot. idwiyo Dec 2013 #99

The fact that both surgeries are changing the natural body Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #101

The fact that you believe that some women are 'fake' because they were born with idwiyo Dec 2013 #107

If you're offended by the fact that surgeries to create a vagina Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #109

You just openly insinuated that women who are born with wrong genitalia are not 'natural'. idwiyo Dec 2013 #116

Jaysus...even with the additional explanation Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #117

You posted a homophobic post and it was hidden. Your attempt to dig yourself out of shithole idwiyo Dec 2013 #128

Neat trick...make a general statement that has no reference to sexuality Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #131

You posted a homophobic post in a thread about transwomen. Keep digging. idwiyo Dec 2013 #140

It was a question about dating transgendered women Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #142

Keep trying to make an excuse for your homophobic post? Keep digging. idwiyo Dec 2013 #145

You keep using that word. I do not think it means Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #147

There is no difference between transphobia and homophobia. Your hidden post was homophobic. idwiyo Dec 2013 #153

How do you know it wasn't just anti-woman? Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #155

Are you, in fact, "just" anti-woman? cyberswede Dec 2013 #170

Bahahahaha! Unbelievable!! Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #171

Jees, I forgot to consider that you might be a gay/bi- male who hates plastic surgery and idwiyo Dec 2013 #180

Some people need plastic surgery. Get the fuck over yourself. nt RedCappedBandit Dec 2013 #240

You are a gay man posting 'I don't date women with fake parts'? I should have considered that? idwiyo Dec 2013 #172

Hahahahaha!! Desperate to be offended Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #175

You posted a homophobic statement is the thread about dating transwomen. It was hidden idwiyo Dec 2013 #192

Hahahahaha!! I'll have to remember the word "anyone" Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #194

Your hidden post was homophobic. It was not a 'joke'. It was deliberate bigoted insult. Keep digging idwiyo Dec 2013 #197

Is the word "anyone" as insulting as "everyone" Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #198

'fake vaginas' in reference to transwomen is what made your post homophobic. Deal with it. idwiyo Dec 2013 #200

gay and bisexual men are not 'anti woman'. Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #229

I'm counting the days... cyberswede Dec 2013 #156

I read your link, and checked the rest of profile. Am counting the days with you... idwiyo Dec 2013 #167

He won't be here long. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #121

I didn't look at his profile but I am not surprised at all. Hopefully it wouldn't be much longer. idwiyo Dec 2013 #135

Gone for a couple months starting Jan 6, minimum. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #138

Of course! Totally forgot about new rules. Thank you for reminding me! idwiyo Dec 2013 #143

Way. eom uppityperson Dec 2013 #160

6 hidden now. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #205

And flagged for review. Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #211

Excellent, thanks for the good news. Flagged for review, can't post til Admin says he can. uppityperson Dec 2013 #212

I bet a pepperoni he's gone for good A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #214

Thank you for great news, missed it. Thank you jurors! idwiyo Dec 2013 #218

So I Guess You Answered the Original Post -- On the Road Dec 2013 #227

I am assuming you are complitely ignorant so I will explain. idwiyo Dec 2013 #231

I Am Happy to Refer to Someone as "She" On the Road Dec 2013 #232

Do you refer to other women in your life as 'she' just as a matter of social convention? idwiyo Dec 2013 #234

Thank you for your efforts to educate these bigoted posters. Jamastiene Dec 2013 #268

Thank you, you made me blush. :) I don't know how else to deal with this problem. idwiyo Dec 2013 #270

Thank you cinnabonbon Dec 2013 #287

Very succinct and concise explanation. Feral Child Dec 2013 #284

Making a point of publicly displaying those preferences BainsBane Dec 2013 #63

Thank god I didn't say anything about not liking bleached hair Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #73

Insinuating that transwomen are 'fake' is homophobic bigotry. You did just that by posting idwiyo Dec 2013 #83

I didn't say anything about transwomen...I said women Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #86

You insinuated that transwomen are 'fake' by posting your bigoted shit in a thread about transwomen. idwiyo Dec 2013 #91

Your inference doesn't mean I implied it Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #103

You sure did, that's why your homophobic post was hidden. idwiyo Dec 2013 #184

You keep using the wrong word Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #187

There is no difference between transphobia and homophobia. Your hidden post was homophobic. idwiyo Dec 2013 #191

Hahahahaha! You keep using the wrong word Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #193

Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward LGBTQ community. idwiyo Dec 2013 #195

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #196

Anti-cacophobic means 'against fear of ugliness'. Are you implying that transwomen are cacophobic? idwiyo Dec 2013 #199

well, he already told us the he could be a gay or bisexual man who is anti woman. boston bean Dec 2013 #202

Account status: Flagged for review A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #208

well, at least he's been put on hold for now. boston bean Dec 2013 #209

he is anti-women and 'anti fear of ugliness' gay/bi- male who doesn't date women with 'fake' vaginas idwiyo Dec 2013 #210

He's been PPR'd BainsBane Dec 2013 #245

Great news! Thank you! idwiyo Dec 2013 #246

YOU lighten up! Texasgal Dec 2013 #185

Hahahaha! I didn't realize plastic surgery was so popular Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #188

This had nothing to do with plastic surgery Texasgal Dec 2013 #221

Having a personal preference, not necessarily, Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #203

We won't have to hear from him for 3 months given the Aerows Dec 2013 #174

Good! K&R! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2013 #182

If he survives the review, Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #215

I didn't realize fake teeth and fake hair Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #52

That wasn't all you said. Go ahead, repeat and defend the rest of it too. idwiyo Dec 2013 #58

Do only the transgendered get boob jobs? Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #59

Keep digging. Your post was, and still is a homophobic bigoted crap. idwiyo Dec 2013 #65

Only to people who think plastic surgery Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #67

According to your statement transwomen are 'fake'. You obviously think that sex reassignment surgery is idwiyo Dec 2013 #78

Of course...because there's no possible way Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #80

You also said fake vaginas. BainsBane Dec 2013 #72

Never heard of vaginal reconstruction? Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #74

Keep it up BainsBane Dec 2013 #76

I didn't make a mistake unless it was assuming Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #77

You clearly believe that sex reassignment surgery is the same as plastic surgery. idwiyo Dec 2013 #105

Hahahahaha! You're going to just make up things Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #106

Keep digging. There is no excuse for homophobia. It's sick, ans so was your original post. idwiyo Dec 2013 #110

I didn't backpedal from anything. I made a joke Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #111

You posted a homophobic statement and it was hidden. It was not a 'joke'. idwiyo Dec 2013 #119

I made no reference to anyone's sexuality Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #122

You did. Starting with your hidden homophobic post. idwiyo Dec 2013 #132

Bahahahha...I guess the word "anyone" Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #134

Your purely homophobic post in a thread about transgender women told me all I need to know. idwiyo Dec 2013 #137

Calling me a homophobe doesn't make me homophobic Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #141

Posting homophobic statements does make one a homophobe. Keep digging. idwiyo Dec 2013 #148

I made no such statements Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #149

Maybe not "statements" but "statement" for sure. uppityperson Dec 2013 #161

Nope Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #162

Evidently the admins thought it over and Rex Dec 2013 #239

About damn time too. I called it withinn the first 10 posts. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2013 #314

Same here, that username alone made me think Rex Dec 2013 #315

I know right? When you come out right away talking about "you people are Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2013 #317

Sidestep until the cows come home. HappyMe Dec 2013 #87

Oh lord...you guys really need to think before you react Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #90

Oh lord - you really need to think. HappyMe Dec 2013 #92

Clearly I put more thought into my post than you did Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #93

lol! HappyMe Dec 2013 #96

I know the word "anyone" is confusing Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #97

. Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #201

He has more than 100 posts, hopefully admin will get rid of him when new rules kick in. idwiyo Dec 2013 #213

But he is now flagged for review. Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #216

Thanks gawd for that. I was getting really sick reading all the shit he posted. Thank you, jury! idwiyo Dec 2013 #217

Jury results Zorra Dec 2013 #219

"BS has been here a month too long already." A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #220

Good to see the jury gave this poster a much needed time-out. Ms. Toad Dec 2013 #222

That one is gone, a banned troll now. Rex Dec 2013 #237

Thanks! Zorra Dec 2013 #238

I just read the post and I do not find it funny at all. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #112

I'm not surprised by your post at all Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #114

your joke was disgusting and will be remembered. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #115

Some can think about it Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #118

I am not one of those people. I have a sense of humor and I found no humor in what you posted. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #120

Eh.. Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #123

just behave. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #124

Okay. I really wasn't trying to offend anyone Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #126

ok fair enough. Please say no such things again. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #129

"REMINDER AND UPDATE: Five hidden posts and you can't post"= Flameout? uppityperson Dec 2013 #127

I can't help what's alerted on or the vote of the jury Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #133

You can't help what's alerted on or voted to be hidden? Seriously?You can't help posting nasty stuff uppityperson Dec 2013 #136

I didn't realize the only people who had plastic surgery Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #139

I didn't realize that someone is forcing you to write nasty stuff and continue to defend it. Shall I uppityperson Dec 2013 #144

Whatever Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #146

And some live to be offensive uppityperson Dec 2013 #157

I can't help how you interpret things Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #158

You can help how you post offensive things though. Or wait, is that person still holding you hostage uppityperson Dec 2013 #159

I will not apologize for your interpretation Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #163

You won't apologize for being offensive. Yeah yeah yeah. We get it. Goodbye. uppityperson Dec 2013 #164

I won't apologize for your interpretations Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #165

Just put 'em on ignore. Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #181

Thanks for the advice. Probably a good idea Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #189

Why am I not surprised you are defending JTFrog Dec 2013 #224

Same reason I'm not surprised to find you attacking. Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #242

Indeed. JTFrog Dec 2013 #271

Pardon me if I don't find homophobic bigotry funny. Do you think his post was a funny 'joke'? idwiyo Dec 2013 #250

I'm sure it was an utter outrage. Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #251

Well, it's good to see that somebody has picked up the fallen torch A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #252

I was thinking of putting it up on e-bay. Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #253

No, keep it, it looks good with your pitchfork. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #254

Why thank you! Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #255

I'd say the torch pretty much dominates your outfit. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #256

Would you? Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #258

There are a lot of options between A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #259

Are there? Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #261

"I am assured that nothing is funny, ever." Is that what you think? Homophobia can be funny? idwiyo Dec 2013 #257

Guy's hidden posts are of a pattern. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #272

I've noticed an odd correlation... those who often use the petulance term 'outrage brigade LanternWaste Dec 2013 #262

That -is- odd. Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #265

But, that in turn....... Amaril Dec 2013 #275

Meh. [nt] Jester Messiah Dec 2013 #283

Your joke was a transphobic piece of shit. NuclearDem Dec 2013 #280

I'd joke about it too Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #17

I'm outraged by your admission Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #20

well I never! woolldog Dec 2013 #24

I imagine "uptight" is quite often used LanternWaste Dec 2013 #233

As usual, LW is on point... nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #300

Huh? arcane1 Dec 2013 #4

... freshwest Dec 2013 #5

The parallel you draw is similar to the other thread LittleBlue Dec 2013 #10

Am I phobic for not dating people I'm not attracted to? Aerows Dec 2013 #11

This thread is a really bad idea pintobean Dec 2013 #13

ugh woolldog Dec 2013 #16

Yep Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #22

Too many actively looking to offend people, too. Iggo Dec 2013 #28

Yup. Takes two to tango, or insert other expression assholes like to use... n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #301

Seems as though that you were offended, no? boston bean Dec 2013 #35

Honestly? woolldog Dec 2013 #43

Or, they have good reason to be. pintobean Dec 2013 #39

Much as there are too many people on DU actively attempting and defending things that are intended t LanternWaste Dec 2013 #264

The other thread was just as bad Aerows Dec 2013 #19

I figured that out - your edit pintobean Dec 2013 #23

I didn't post in it either Aerows Dec 2013 #40

Agreed. That thread is idiocy incarnate. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2013 #64

the op is doing Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #108

You made your point there ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #15

It appears Aerows Dec 2013 #179

Not sure, but you DO sound like an asshole. closeupready Dec 2013 #18

how so? woolldog Dec 2013 #21

You are making light of serious matters closeupready Dec 2013 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #27

Here 4 years and doesn't get that. pintobean Dec 2013 #30

what are other DU members saying offends them? woolldog Dec 2013 #34

Hahahaha! Blanket Statements Dec 2013 #41

Unrec. Iggo Dec 2013 #26

The one benefit of this OP BainsBane Dec 2013 #29

Exactly! boston bean Dec 2013 #32

How does the saying go? BainsBane Dec 2013 #37

We've had Paglia, Dilbert, now this... boston bean Dec 2013 #45

Yes. This x 1000. Very, very clear. closeupready Dec 2013 #33

It's a movement! Squinch Dec 2013 #102

Why, oh why? HappyMe Dec 2013 #31

Why oh why must it be this way... aikoaiko Dec 2013 #98

No, you're just a person who can't tell the difference between... Shandris Dec 2013 #36

A serious question etherealtruth Dec 2013 #38

Purely conjecture (but educated conjecture), but I think its... Shandris Dec 2013 #42

And in the trash it goes ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #44

This post was tacky. n-t Logical Dec 2013 #47

Are you trying to imply that transwomen are not 'real' women? idwiyo Dec 2013 #50

I believe that the hidden HappyMe Dec 2013 #61

So do I. The OP of course will either ignore the question or run. idwiyo Dec 2013 #68

addressed woolldog Dec 2013 #151

You didn't answer my question. Your link is the reason why I asked you this specific question. idwiyo Dec 2013 #166

well there is one other difference... scheming daemons Dec 2013 #225

Any woman you date might be infertile. You take your chances. idwiyo Dec 2013 #228

no... scheming daemons Dec 2013 #236

If he ends the relationship only because he thinks that trans- means she is not a 'real' woman is idwiyo Dec 2013 #293

As a gay man I do not get you question. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #53

Here's my interpretation Tobin S. Dec 2013 #57

That's not it at all NoOneMan Dec 2013 #62

thanks. I admit to be afraid of some straight guys but that does not mske them homophobic at all. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #66

10-4 Tobin S. Dec 2013 #75

Could you elaborate a little please? Soundman Dec 2013 #82

I get afraid sometimes that some men do not like gay guys and will get violent. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #223

That's a reasonable fear. Feral Child Dec 2013 #292

In itself, no Prophet 451 Dec 2013 #55

nope, we all are attracted to different sorts, does not mean its bigoted loli phabay Dec 2013 #70

You're clearly guilty of something. MannyGoldstein Dec 2013 #71

Yep. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #81

If you're referencing something maybe you should include a link Kurska Dec 2013 #85

Trashing. Squinch Dec 2013 #100

you asking that question makes me believe you are a homophobic JI7 Dec 2013 #104

Yes, part. in light of all the follow-up 'clarifications' closeupready Dec 2013 #125

Of course not. Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #113

The fact that you've posted just to ask this question... liberalmuse Dec 2013 #130

My sources say Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #150

no, not homophobic Skittles Dec 2013 #152

good one woolldog Dec 2013 #154

not a joke Skittles Dec 2013 #168

it's your opinion. woolldog Dec 2013 #173

if you didn't care you would not be here whining Skittles Dec 2013 #178

lol woolldog Dec 2013 #186

People suffer from lifelong discrimination, but not to worry, woolldog is both amused and bemused alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #285

where did I say I was amused? woolldog Dec 2013 #288

More than simply Skittle's opinion... it's shared. LanternWaste Dec 2013 #235

I don't think she was making a joke JanMichael Dec 2013 #169

you're certainly entitled to your opinion, Jan. woolldog Dec 2013 #176

yes there is. Your kindergarten JanMichael Dec 2013 #183

No. No way woolldog Dec 2013 #190

What a silly post! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2013 #177

I think I get it. Skip Intro Dec 2013 #204

yes. woolldog Dec 2013 #289

I'll bet you didn't expect over 200 replies. jessie04 Dec 2013 #206

150 of the replies are the same two people going back and forth scheming daemons Dec 2013 #226

I certainly didn't anticipate this post being so controversial. nt woolldog Dec 2013 #267

Perhaps it's because you're insensitive Feral Child Dec 2013 #294

That means roughly 90-something percent of everyone on Earth is a homophobe, then. Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #207

Your question is a daft and redundant thing which answers itself. Bluenorthwest Dec 2013 #230

A better question, do YOU think it is homophobic? Rex Dec 2013 #241

Obviously I don't. woolldog Dec 2013 #263

Then why ask the question? Rex Dec 2013 #269

because I am interested in different points of view. nt woolldog Dec 2013 #279

If you say so. Rex Dec 2013 #281

Do you any fear or contempt for gay men or lesbians. ... spin Dec 2013 #243

One accomplishment of this thread: A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2013 #244

+1 idwiyo Dec 2013 #249

Grave dance appropriate for that one alcibiades_mystery Dec 2013 #286

Maybe. NCTraveler Dec 2013 #247

All that tells me is that you are heterosexual. arthritisR_US Dec 2013 #248

I think it's wonderful. nt woolldog Dec 2013 #266

That being the case, then why would you question arthritisR_US Dec 2013 #273

.... woolldog Dec 2013 #277

I have gay buddies, both male and female. The males arthritisR_US Dec 2013 #295

thoughtful response. woolldog Dec 2013 #296

If you have to ask if you are homophobic, Jamastiene Dec 2013 #260

um, yeah woolldog Dec 2013 #291

Lol. NealK Dec 2013 #297

No it didn't. woolldog Dec 2013 #299

Yeah, sure. NealK Dec 2013 #304

Nope. The point flew right over your head. Jamastiene Dec 2013 #302

Absolutely. NealK Dec 2013 #306

What kind of attitude? woolldog Dec 2013 #307

You really have to ask? NealK Dec 2013 #309

Judging from the question? Probably not, but judging from the posts of yours I've seen over the past LanternWaste Dec 2013 #274

"judging from the posts of yours I've seen over the past week or two" woolldog Dec 2013 #282

That depends on the reason you do not date men AuntPatsy Dec 2013 #276

I appreciate your hypothesis...... Swede Atlanta Dec 2013 #278

WTF are you talking about? That's literally the dumbest question I've ever seen asked on DU. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #290

+1000! NealK Dec 2013 #298

+100000 Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #303

why'd u rec this thread then? woolldog Dec 2013 #305

For exposure. NealK Dec 2013 #308

If you felt it necessary to post this appropos of nothing, then... Deep13 Dec 2013 #310

Do you believe that transwomen are 'gay man who pretend to be women'? idwiyo Dec 2013 #311

"Do you believe that transwomen are gay man who pretend to be women"? woolldog Dec 2013 #316

You are probably a homophobe Bradical79 Dec 2013 #318