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cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
15. Oh stop it!
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:35 PM
Dec 2013

FDR was our greatest progressive president and yet he stubbornly resisted getting involved in African American's struggle for civil rights and he stripped Japanese Americans of their constitutional rights in the name of national security. Lyndon Johnson probably did more to reduce poverty in American than any president before or since, yet he fabricated the Gulf of Tonkin incident to expand our brutal and deadly war in southeast Asia. Barack Obama has presided over an astonishing growth of the surveillance state and yet he has agressively defended voting rights from the most serious attacks they've faced since the Jim Crow era.

All leaders are fallible. Contradiction is inescapable.

FDR, nuff said: [View all] kpete Dec 2013 OP
K&R.... daleanime Dec 2013 #1
But FDR had blood dripping from his fangs! Rex Dec 2013 #2
Oh stop it! cheapdate Dec 2013 #15
Thanks. I'm still a big fan of FDR and Johnson. JDPriestly Dec 2013 #18
In Georgia, waitresses make 2.13 an hour. Nice isn't how much our country loves us. roguevalley Dec 2013 #19
Don't worry. The Fan Club will be here soon to point that out. Doctor_J Dec 2013 #20
One of my favorite FDR quotes. nt FactBasedLifeform Dec 2013 #3
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #4
Happy fucking New Year... progressoid Dec 2013 #5
These multiples are an obscenity. grantcart Dec 2013 #6
DURec for FDR. bvar22 Dec 2013 #7
Why do they pick on Walmart so much then? ErikJ Dec 2013 #8
Public assistance for their hourly employees? moondust Dec 2013 #12
Because Wal-Mart, according their website, employs 1.3 MILLION PEOPLE. Archaic Dec 2013 #22
Their annual revenue is 5 TIMES HIGHER than the 2nd highest retailer in America ErikJ Dec 2013 #23
Did you grow up thinking anybody would make more than McDonald's? Archaic Dec 2013 #24
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #9
same to you Uncle Joe kpete Dec 2013 #11
Why are they basing that CEO pay on 60 hour weeks? Curmudgeoness Dec 2013 #10
They often count that golf outing as work time. And the luncheon at the five-star restaurant, tclambert Jan 2014 #25
Love me some FDR! Brigid Dec 2013 #13
What do those CEOs do to "earn" it? moondust Dec 2013 #14
They keep the hourlies in poverty Doctor_J Dec 2013 #21
And don't forget about the "Down-Sizing". Another Big Brother-ism. n/t King_Klonopin Jan 2014 #27
But, but, but, CEOs NEED 9k an hour or what's the point of working? Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #16
Show me a CEO that works 60 hour weeks and takes only 2 weeks of vacation... Thor_MN Dec 2013 #17
Yes, but they have to carry around the invisible chains they forge in life, like Marley's ghost, tclambert Jan 2014 #26
eleanor iamthebandfanman Jan 2014 #28
But not the transformational President our current President chose to admire. WowSeriously Jan 2014 #29
, blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #30
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