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In reply to the discussion: NYT Editorial Board Calls For CLEMENCY For Snowden [View all]mother earth
(6,002 posts)18. Protections exempting the intelligence community? & What of Clapper misleading Congress?
Would Obama's whistleblower protection have helped Snowden?
Obama on Friday: "I signed an executive order well before Mr. Snowden leaked this information that provided whistleblower protection to the intelligence community for the first time."
True -- he signed an executive order in October of 2012 that protects intelligence community whistleblowers. The Intelligence community is exempted from other whistleblower protections he signed into law in 2012.
Read the executive order
But that protection does not appear to do much for someone like Snowden, who wanted to blow the whistle to public on a classified program.
The order states that classified information should be protected. It also adjudicates through the intelligence committee, which is already complicit and agrees with the program that he disclosed.
In other words, Snowden would have been protected in blowing the whistle up to the director of National Intelligence. Currently, that's James Clapper, who has had to apologize for misleading Congress about the existence of the programs.
In any case, he already knew about the programs. So that does seem like a bit of a Catch-22. But it is part of a larger debate about whether Americans trust their government to have secret programs. If so, they have to trust the branches of government to do the checking and balancing.
Intel chief admits 'erroneous statements' to Congress
Obama on Friday: "I signed an executive order well before Mr. Snowden leaked this information that provided whistleblower protection to the intelligence community for the first time."
True -- he signed an executive order in October of 2012 that protects intelligence community whistleblowers. The Intelligence community is exempted from other whistleblower protections he signed into law in 2012.
Read the executive order
But that protection does not appear to do much for someone like Snowden, who wanted to blow the whistle to public on a classified program.
The order states that classified information should be protected. It also adjudicates through the intelligence committee, which is already complicit and agrees with the program that he disclosed.
In other words, Snowden would have been protected in blowing the whistle up to the director of National Intelligence. Currently, that's James Clapper, who has had to apologize for misleading Congress about the existence of the programs.
In any case, he already knew about the programs. So that does seem like a bit of a Catch-22. But it is part of a larger debate about whether Americans trust their government to have secret programs. If so, they have to trust the branches of government to do the checking and balancing.
Intel chief admits 'erroneous statements' to Congress
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/12/politics/obama-snowden-whistleblower/index.html
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Whistleblower protections need to be reinstated, like it or not, the entire Snowden debacle lies
mother earth
Jan 2014
#5
You mean the expansion of whistleblower protections that Obama instituted, right?
randome
Jan 2014
#14
Protections exempting the intelligence community? & What of Clapper misleading Congress?
mother earth
Jan 2014
#18
So like a petulant child, Snowden demanded things should be done HIS way instead of the legal way.
randome
Jan 2014
#20
Congress is a moot point because they aren't doing what they should be doing as far as
mother earth
Jan 2014
#23
The whole narrative of Snowden being hero or traitor, lies on this known fact. When the safeguards
mother earth
Jan 2014
#26
Thomas Drake & William Binney, both former NSA whistleblowers do not agree with you, they side with
mother earth
Jan 2014
#74
Snowden isn't being critical of the government. He is actively trying to subvert it.
randome
Jan 2014
#67
Pretty desperate when the new talking point is that Snowden is a racist
riderinthestorm
Jan 2014
#17
You just lost a lot of credibility by accusing Snowden of racism with absolutely no proof.
last1standing
Jan 2014
#50
I don't know if you've used racism smears against others. Is that important?
last1standing
Jan 2014
#60
Oh...would it be better for him to have his inevitable "accident" here, closer to home?
Romulox
Jan 2014
#15
In the bottom left of the OP is the recommend (R) button. Just click. It says 'undo' once clicked.
Solly Mack
Jan 2014
#44
Guardian partners with New York Times over Snowden GCHQ files (Friday 23 August 2013)
Scurrilous
Jan 2014
#49
He definitely deserves it. I over and over again reassured myself that it simply wasn't possible for
Hosnon
Jan 2014
#54
The NYT is right...Snowden should take a plea. Or he's going to be very cold in the winters. nt
msanthrope
Jan 2014
#73