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IllinoisBirdWatcher

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7. Yes, I am that old...

Thu Jan 9, 2014, 02:56 PM

Jan 2014

and there are many similarities.

Although Christie comes off better to cameras (anyone would), he so reminded me of Richard Nixon this morning.

As others have pointed out often, he is either lying with every word, or he is totally incompetent in not knowing what his senior officials were (and are) doing.

Yes, no one expects him or any other governor to know what 65,000 employees are doing on a daily basis.

But to claim he did not know what a handful of most-trusted senior staff (both in his official office and on the part of his campaign manager) were doing on a daily basis is like trying to convince us that the sun rose in the west this morning.

For those of you who don't follow all of the governors, this fiasco is also a mirror image of the John Doe investigations of Wisconsin TeaPublican Scott Walker who claims to have no clue that his senior staff had set up and run a secret non-official intranet a few feet from his desk.

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Any DUers around during Watergate? [View all] Dawgs Jan 2014 OP

They lied and took the fifth and couldn't find Rosemary's tape. shraby Jan 2014 #1

Watergate was nothing compared to this! People died because of what Christie did. B Calm Jan 2014 #2

The timing was similar. We knew about the break-in months before pnwmom Jan 2014 #89

At least with Watergate AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #3

I'll buy that 2naSalit Jan 2014 #10

During Watergate, Brigid Jan 2014 #66

Nixon wasn't in-your-face belligerent to the public like Christie is, but Nixon preserved his pacalo Jan 2014 #67

There was a death involved with this scandal. PM Martin Jan 2014 #4

But no deaths in Watergate, right? Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #85

YES! Starting with "I am not a bully." Glitterati Jan 2014 #5

Not a bully? Clearly he forgets there were videos of his town hall bullying...what an asswipe Sheepshank Jan 2014 #48

Oh yeah, my jaw hit the floor when he said that Glitterati Jan 2014 #71

I love the irony of how he's now trying to backtrack on his bullying nature. pacalo Jan 2014 #72

It seemed like the hearings went on forever and there were many people testifying. livetohike Jan 2014 #6

I thought that was John Mitchell's wife they were obsessed with Art_from_Ark Jan 2014 #79

I forgot about Martha Mitchell! Maybe they were obsessed with all of the wives. livetohike Jan 2014 #81

I don't remember Maureen Dean at all Art_from_Ark Jan 2014 #83

Yes, I am that old... IllinoisBirdWatcher Jan 2014 #7

Seriously he was Nixonian malaise Jan 2014 #24

Yes. I really thoought so, too. IllinoisBirdWatcher Jan 2014 #47

I picked up on that Walker parallel too. Jackpine Radical Jan 2014 #52

Thanks. Yes, please, TeaPublicans, elevate Walker to the top of your list. IllinoisBirdWatcher Jan 2014 #57

Way too little time has passed in bridge gate. upaloopa Jan 2014 #8

Yep... WillyT Jan 2014 #9

That's Fred Thompson in the top photo, at the left...correct? nt Common Sense Party Jan 2014 #51

I Believe So... WillyT Jan 2014 #55

Looks like him (with hair), and I know he was some lawyer during all of that. Common Sense Party Jan 2014 #58

Waiting for Christie's Deep Throat... nt pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #11

Ewwww FiveGoodMen Jan 2014 #50

Deep Goat! adirondacker Jan 2014 #64

I watched the Watergate hearings and for me... kairos12 Jan 2014 #12

Might be his own Bridget Anne Kelly? calimary Jan 2014 #17

Her lawyers will ask for immunity in exchange for her testimony livetohike Jan 2014 #40

Oh, I agree. Christie threw her under the bus, and she must be pretty Nay Jan 2014 #60

Oh, I'm sure she does. Brigid Jan 2014 #65

she's got plenty of notes BobUp Jan 2014 #75

Here! What I'm enjoying is the references to Watergate and nixon that have come up calimary Jan 2014 #13

I was there. The similarities I see is in Christie and Nixon is their personalities. Both are the jwirr Jan 2014 #14

Agreed. I was there too. n/t RebelOne Jan 2014 #36

waiting for an enemies list and things done to them dembotoz Jan 2014 #15

No, not similar. MineralMan Jan 2014 #16

No need to be a dick. "Refuse" was a simple mistake. Dawgs Jan 2014 #21

Just correcting your misstatement. MineralMan Jan 2014 #22

Yeah, but he's still a sitting governor. Dawgs Jan 2014 #25

take your own advice reddread Jan 2014 #35

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #39

the only dumb ass here reddread Jan 2014 #42

I generally agree but I'm thinking there may be more to this than just a prank to get back at a OregonBlue Jan 2014 #33

Watergate was a much bigger scandalthat involved not only a cover up and obstruction but TeamPooka Jan 2014 #18

I agree. HappyMe Jan 2014 #43

One Thing You Forgot ProfessorGAC Jan 2014 #70

I'd be here all day if I was to list every crime Nixon and his cronies committed. :) TeamPooka Jan 2014 #93

Not yet; there have been no hearings to pre-empt afterschool sitcom re-runs. eShirl Jan 2014 #19

the scale of this offense pales compared to Watergate grasswire Jan 2014 #20

Thanks. I was very young when WG went down, so I wasn't aware of the importance. Dawgs Jan 2014 #26

Yes, I was glued to the tv the whole time. ananda Jan 2014 #23

It does have that certain something. I keep expecting Christie to say... Hekate Jan 2014 #27

Yes edhopper Jan 2014 #28

Not really. Only in the sense that both politicians found themselves in a lot of trouble. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #29

I remember Watergate quite well. SheilaT Jan 2014 #30

I hear ya, but I still think this is a much bigger deal than "petty bullshit". Dawgs Jan 2014 #37

I suppose whether or not the bridge thing SheilaT Jan 2014 #44

I'm not sure we know that yet. Just seems to me like that was an excuse they made up that sounded OregonBlue Jan 2014 #38

I was listening to WTOP radio when the burglary was first reported Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #31

It's not watergate. It's watergate-gate... SidDithers Jan 2014 #32

Similar in "politicians doing corrupt/ immoral/ illegal things" etherealtruth Jan 2014 #34

I agree. I was wondering more about the similarities in how it's playing out. Dawgs Jan 2014 #41

Its gonna take someone older than me for a firsthad recollection etherealtruth Jan 2014 #45

Three really big differences... brooklynite Jan 2014 #46

Watergate break in led to other facts-so far this is an isolated incident Gothmog Jan 2014 #49

In ways, yes. H2O Man Jan 2014 #53

Crooked politicians with gangster mentalities are all the same Warpy Jan 2014 #54

Yes, it seems quite similar - the stakes are not as high, but closeupready Jan 2014 #56

This is child's play compared to Watergate. Lochloosa Jan 2014 #59

abuse of power beachbum bob Jan 2014 #61

Yes,I was and it is different sadoldgirl Jan 2014 #62

I was in high school. Brigid Jan 2014 #63

No. I was nowhere near the Watergate that night. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2014 #68

Watergate sucked. AngryAmish Jan 2014 #69

I remember the endless Watergate hearings. Jenoch Jan 2014 #73

What's Watergate? CFLDem Jan 2014 #74

well, I think that the "I am not a bully" statement was reminicent of Nixon's "I am not a crook." notadmblnd Jan 2014 #76

Why change 'Dicks' in the middle of a screw, vote for Nixon in '72! Yep, I was around... ;) eom Purveyor Jan 2014 #77

I remember it well - I was glued to the TV hearings. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2014 #78

1.YES. 2. YES. "Dirty Tricks": Given the threat to life and limb.... Smarmie Doofus Jan 2014 #80

No similarities whatsoever- the suggestion only demeans the historic importance of watergate. Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #82

welcome to DU gopiscrap Jan 2014 #91

After seeing Rachel Maddow's coverage this evening- Cofitachequi Jan 2014 #92

Yes. However I am more concerned with how a President like Richard Nixon ... spin Jan 2014 #84

Yes I was. Not even close. trof Jan 2014 #86

We've reached a real turning point in history, where all scandals end in ghazi instead of gate. Coyotl Jan 2014 #87

I agree with the DUers who want to stick with -gate Jim Lane Jan 2014 #94

I could not understand what the big deal was! TheDebbieDee Jan 2014 #88

not similar, bridgegate seems worse to me - hurting the avg citizen to Liberal_in_LA Jan 2014 #90

Watergate was about subverting the electoral process Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2014 #95

Just consideration of comparison makes me ill antiquie Jan 2014 #96