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DonViejo

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90. Benedict was John Paul 2's "rottweiler"...

Wed Jan 15, 2014, 11:20 AM

Jan 2014

he knew what was going on and when it was happening because he was the guy that approved it (moving child abusing priests from one parish and/or diocese to another). The media was beginning to report Benedict's involvement in the decision making and, I think, that was causing panic in the upper echelons of the Church; so, the idea of escorting him to the door before the scandal swallowed him (the Pope) became important. OTOH, I think Benedict could not deal with the Curia as is mentioned in the OP. In short, I think there's a distinct possibility Benedict was not qualified to be Pope, mentally or emotionally. He was a "good" rottweiler but a very lousy administrator. Hope that makes sense to you.

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Pope With the Humble Touch Is Firm in Reshaping the Vatican [View all] Beacool Jan 2014 OP

I hope he stays safe. GreenEyedLefty Jan 2014 #1

I hope so too. Beacool Jan 2014 #2

This belongs more properly in a religion forum. nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #3

I think that it would get a wider readership over here. Beacool Jan 2014 #4

And those posts, unless specifically dealing with economic or political matters, also don't el_bryanto Jan 2014 #6

Nope. Skinner confirmed the Pope is big news and belongs in GD Godhumor Jan 2014 #16

That was rescinded weeks ago el_bryanto Jan 2014 #17

If you don't think this is economic and political, Ron Green Jan 2014 #20

It is definately economic and political Go Vols Jan 2014 #22

If he's pleasing a billion people when he criticizes Capitalism, Ron Green Jan 2014 #25

The Pope's anti contraception dogma certainly contributes to poverty and the oppression of women Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #28

Well, I do theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #37

This thread was about politics and economics, too theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #40

Nailed it... SidDithers Jan 2014 #43

That lock pissed me off. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #45

Thank you. theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #50

Me, too. And incredibly biased towards the 'oppressed' Christians. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #52

This one survived though el_bryanto Jan 2014 #56

I agree theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #61

Thank you theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #36

Along with posts saying "Boy, religious people sure are dumb." nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #41

That I've never done theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #44

Not per the Admins. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #53

There are no exceptions in the rules for GD which means religion threads don't belong in GD. el_bryanto Jan 2014 #54

This is Skinner's playground. He makes the rules. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #57

Let me ask this - you know that people get pissed off at the pope threads el_bryanto Jan 2014 #63

This is a discussion board. People get pissed off ALL THE TIME. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #73

Oh really? theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #58

That thread was locked in November. Skinner clarified in December. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #60

Don't be condescending theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #65

Don't be a liar. You aren't the admin, and your OPINION on Thread Placement is WRONG. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #76

We have a new Pope. snooper2 Jan 2014 #97

ROFLMA!!! IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #99

+1 Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #120

Well don't be surprised when those of us disgusted by gushing over the leader of an PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #70

I'm good with that. Especially since I'm not Catholic. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #80

pssst... the RCC is a "huge bureaucratic organization" PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #87

pssst back... he is working to CHANGE that huge bureaucratic organization IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #91

Why is this nonsense tolerated here? I love you guys, but seriously WTF?! Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #5

So he will start extraditing pedophile priests? Or will he keep protecting them? Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #7

He already ordered an investigation of these priests. Beacool Jan 2014 #9

oh... An investigation... So no extradition Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #14

Give the man a break. Beacool Jan 2014 #15

No... I see no reason to give him a break... Fuck him Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #18

Louis CK learns about the Catholic Church Go Vols Jan 2014 #23

That's gonna leave a mark... SidDithers Jan 2014 #51

Heh heh Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #74

It's a long article, did you even bother reading it? Beacool Jan 2014 #69

Did you read this? PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #71

I don't know that he's protecting them. Beacool Jan 2014 #75

the abuse has been going on for decades. He's allowing the hoarding of millions by the church. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #78

How can you defend his silence as Uganda, 42% Catholic, the largest religious group, enforces a law Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #42

What does my avatar have to do with this thread??? Beacool Jan 2014 #77

Answer my question first. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #107

How can you defend this? PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #47

A Catholic friend of mine, some sort of mucky-muck in the Church told me... DonViejo Jan 2014 #10

That would be nice but so far it's all talk Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #13

Same old line I see. Ellipsis Jan 2014 #26

Yeah, abuse of childrern is 'the same old line'. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #34

Assumptive, twisty turney bullshit. Ellipsis Jan 2014 #121

Hopefully Dorian Gray Jan 2014 #29

The Catholic Church has been around for a couple of millennia. Beacool Jan 2014 #72

A long but very interesting article. Thanks for posting it Beacool... DonViejo Jan 2014 #8

You're welcome. Beacool Jan 2014 #11

So you are openly saying that Francis' installation and his showboating is an intentional aspect of Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #31

No, that's not what I am saying. I'm saying that's the result DonViejo Jan 2014 #46

Fascinating article. Thank you for posting it. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #84

Benedict was John Paul 2's "rottweiler"... DonViejo Jan 2014 #90

That does. Thank you for explaining it. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #92

I don't think he was "controllable," per se.... DonViejo Jan 2014 #95

Yeah, he's really shaking things up! Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #12

Thanks for posting! BarackTheVote Jan 2014 #19

I like him. Beacool Jan 2014 #24

I hope it is real and not window dressing. Time will tell. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #21

interesting article Egnever Jan 2014 #27

This is not appropriate for a political forum, it is religous news about a bigoted sexist Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #30

Per the admins, it is acceptable to discuss the Pope in GD. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #55

I assume you are misinformed. You seem to think a man can oppose my equal rights while not judging Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #113

See my reply to you elsewhere in this thread. nt IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #115

K&R...doing my part to counter the haters who always show up DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #32

I assume you agree with his positions against contraception and against rights for gay people? Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #33

Quick question for you, Bluenorthwest, if you don't mind... DonViejo Jan 2014 #49

Where'd you come up with such a ridiculous notion? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #67

You refer to those who are critical of homophobic, anti choice clerics as 'haters'. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #105

Just like in politics. Beacool Jan 2014 #66

I do not hate him, I oppose his anti gay teachings and his opposition to choice and contraception. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #118

Take it to the Religion forum theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #35

Not per the Admins. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #59

Thank you, Ida. Beacool Jan 2014 #62

Got your back, Beacool. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #81

read what IdaBriggs wrote. Beacool Jan 2014 #64

When you choose to promote a bigot on DU... theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #117

I would think that if enough of us want this garbage put to the Religion forum Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #68

Exactly. For a while both Religion (Pope) and Guns were exceptions. But they aren't any more. nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #83

On what do you base your opinion that your is a majority? IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #86

Why can't we do that with Guns, Israel-Palestine, or Conspiracy theories? el_bryanto Jan 2014 #89

I personally think he has been very clear -- IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #93

It depends on the type of thread - if he is speaking about political or economic theories el_bryanto Jan 2014 #100

You are entitled to your opinion. I have a different one. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #101

Who am I to judge? What a pant load. He says gay people should not have equal rights. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #110

Starting with the premise *I* support equal rights for everyone... IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #114

FWIW, I have asked in ATA for Skinner to clarify if the pope counts as permament big news (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #103

Thank you. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #104

It's funny. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #94

Take it up with Skinner. Or start your own message board. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #98

Criminals - all of them PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #38

How many pedophiles did he hide today? More garbage for the trash. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #39

Still looks like a bunch of old men in robes to me. MineralMan Jan 2014 #48

knr - thank your for posting - don't pay attention to the crazies - They don't want to build a Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #79

I think that this Pope is taking some bold steps to make changes in the way Beacool Jan 2014 #82

Progress is about moving things forward. Not only would Abraham Lincoln's views on race be utterly Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #85

Good post. Consider making it an OP sometime. n/t FSogol Jan 2014 #122

Oh, the Pope is progressive, huh? Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #108

Also crazy here Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #112

Right. Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #116

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #88

I see that inadvertently I started a discussion of which articles belong on GD. Beacool Jan 2014 #96

Oh goody. Another slobbering pope thread. Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #102

This belongs in the religion forum. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #106

Hasn't that point been brought up ad nauseam? Beacool Jan 2014 #109

No but the Pope has been. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #111

Oh, wow, another thread about how wonderful Blank Frank is! mr blur Jan 2014 #119