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IdaBriggs

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114. Starting with the premise *I* support equal rights for everyone...

Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:13 PM

Jan 2014

on a bigger scale, do you really want to never know about the folks who oppose equal rights?

Don't expect me to agree with everything the man says, Bluenorthwest. I'm not Catholic, I don't think anyone is "infallible", and I have different views on a lot of issues.

With that being said, there is *some* movement happening. Is it enough? NO! Is it a start? I hope so. Is it news? YES.

If you need to trash the thread because it just puts you in an understand rage, that is okay. Talking about different viewpoints doesn't mean people agree or support them. You can read any "Zimmerman" thread for proof of that - the people who talked about him were (mostly) not supporting his right to kill unarmed teenagers - and being interested in what the Pope is doing doesn't mean the people reading support all of his viewpoints, either.

We have a bunch of evangelicals who just made homosexuality a death sentence in one country, and we ALSO have the first "softening" of the Catholic church's position, with a hoped for "changing of the guard" in the people who come up with the opinions that will influence the next generation. Are we interested? Hell, yes! Does ANYONE on this board support policies that hurt the LGBT community? The answer had better be (per the admins and all decent people here) HELL, NO!

I don't like the fact this is such a slow, painful process, but it is going to happen. Baby steps....

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Pope With the Humble Touch Is Firm in Reshaping the Vatican [View all] Beacool Jan 2014 OP

I hope he stays safe. GreenEyedLefty Jan 2014 #1

I hope so too. Beacool Jan 2014 #2

This belongs more properly in a religion forum. nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #3

I think that it would get a wider readership over here. Beacool Jan 2014 #4

And those posts, unless specifically dealing with economic or political matters, also don't el_bryanto Jan 2014 #6

Nope. Skinner confirmed the Pope is big news and belongs in GD Godhumor Jan 2014 #16

That was rescinded weeks ago el_bryanto Jan 2014 #17

If you don't think this is economic and political, Ron Green Jan 2014 #20

It is definately economic and political Go Vols Jan 2014 #22

If he's pleasing a billion people when he criticizes Capitalism, Ron Green Jan 2014 #25

The Pope's anti contraception dogma certainly contributes to poverty and the oppression of women Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #28

Well, I do theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #37

This thread was about politics and economics, too theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #40

Nailed it... SidDithers Jan 2014 #43

That lock pissed me off. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #45

Thank you. theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #50

Me, too. And incredibly biased towards the 'oppressed' Christians. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #52

This one survived though el_bryanto Jan 2014 #56

I agree theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #61

Thank you theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #36

Along with posts saying "Boy, religious people sure are dumb." nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #41

That I've never done theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #44

Not per the Admins. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #53

There are no exceptions in the rules for GD which means religion threads don't belong in GD. el_bryanto Jan 2014 #54

This is Skinner's playground. He makes the rules. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #57

Let me ask this - you know that people get pissed off at the pope threads el_bryanto Jan 2014 #63

This is a discussion board. People get pissed off ALL THE TIME. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #73

Oh really? theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #58

That thread was locked in November. Skinner clarified in December. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #60

Don't be condescending theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #65

Don't be a liar. You aren't the admin, and your OPINION on Thread Placement is WRONG. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #76

We have a new Pope. snooper2 Jan 2014 #97

ROFLMA!!! IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #99

+1 Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #120

Well don't be surprised when those of us disgusted by gushing over the leader of an PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #70

I'm good with that. Especially since I'm not Catholic. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #80

pssst... the RCC is a "huge bureaucratic organization" PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #87

pssst back... he is working to CHANGE that huge bureaucratic organization IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #91

Why is this nonsense tolerated here? I love you guys, but seriously WTF?! Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #5

So he will start extraditing pedophile priests? Or will he keep protecting them? Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #7

He already ordered an investigation of these priests. Beacool Jan 2014 #9

oh... An investigation... So no extradition Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #14

Give the man a break. Beacool Jan 2014 #15

No... I see no reason to give him a break... Fuck him Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #18

Louis CK learns about the Catholic Church Go Vols Jan 2014 #23

That's gonna leave a mark... SidDithers Jan 2014 #51

Heh heh Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #74

It's a long article, did you even bother reading it? Beacool Jan 2014 #69

Did you read this? PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #71

I don't know that he's protecting them. Beacool Jan 2014 #75

the abuse has been going on for decades. He's allowing the hoarding of millions by the church. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #78

How can you defend his silence as Uganda, 42% Catholic, the largest religious group, enforces a law Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #42

What does my avatar have to do with this thread??? Beacool Jan 2014 #77

Answer my question first. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #107

How can you defend this? PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #47

A Catholic friend of mine, some sort of mucky-muck in the Church told me... DonViejo Jan 2014 #10

That would be nice but so far it's all talk Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #13

Same old line I see. Ellipsis Jan 2014 #26

Yeah, abuse of childrern is 'the same old line'. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #34

Assumptive, twisty turney bullshit. Ellipsis Jan 2014 #121

Hopefully Dorian Gray Jan 2014 #29

The Catholic Church has been around for a couple of millennia. Beacool Jan 2014 #72

A long but very interesting article. Thanks for posting it Beacool... DonViejo Jan 2014 #8

You're welcome. Beacool Jan 2014 #11

So you are openly saying that Francis' installation and his showboating is an intentional aspect of Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #31

No, that's not what I am saying. I'm saying that's the result DonViejo Jan 2014 #46

Fascinating article. Thank you for posting it. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #84

Benedict was John Paul 2's "rottweiler"... DonViejo Jan 2014 #90

That does. Thank you for explaining it. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #92

I don't think he was "controllable," per se.... DonViejo Jan 2014 #95

Yeah, he's really shaking things up! Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #12

Thanks for posting! BarackTheVote Jan 2014 #19

I like him. Beacool Jan 2014 #24

I hope it is real and not window dressing. Time will tell. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #21

interesting article Egnever Jan 2014 #27

This is not appropriate for a political forum, it is religous news about a bigoted sexist Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #30

Per the admins, it is acceptable to discuss the Pope in GD. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #55

I assume you are misinformed. You seem to think a man can oppose my equal rights while not judging Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #113

See my reply to you elsewhere in this thread. nt IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #115

K&R...doing my part to counter the haters who always show up DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #32

I assume you agree with his positions against contraception and against rights for gay people? Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #33

Quick question for you, Bluenorthwest, if you don't mind... DonViejo Jan 2014 #49

Where'd you come up with such a ridiculous notion? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #67

You refer to those who are critical of homophobic, anti choice clerics as 'haters'. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #105

Just like in politics. Beacool Jan 2014 #66

I do not hate him, I oppose his anti gay teachings and his opposition to choice and contraception. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #118

Take it to the Religion forum theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #35

Not per the Admins. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #59

Thank you, Ida. Beacool Jan 2014 #62

Got your back, Beacool. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #81

read what IdaBriggs wrote. Beacool Jan 2014 #64

When you choose to promote a bigot on DU... theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #117

I would think that if enough of us want this garbage put to the Religion forum Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #68

Exactly. For a while both Religion (Pope) and Guns were exceptions. But they aren't any more. nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #83

On what do you base your opinion that your is a majority? IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #86

Why can't we do that with Guns, Israel-Palestine, or Conspiracy theories? el_bryanto Jan 2014 #89

I personally think he has been very clear -- IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #93

It depends on the type of thread - if he is speaking about political or economic theories el_bryanto Jan 2014 #100

You are entitled to your opinion. I have a different one. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #101

Who am I to judge? What a pant load. He says gay people should not have equal rights. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #110

Starting with the premise *I* support equal rights for everyone... IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #114

FWIW, I have asked in ATA for Skinner to clarify if the pope counts as permament big news (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #103

Thank you. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #104

It's funny. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #94

Take it up with Skinner. Or start your own message board. IdaBriggs Jan 2014 #98

Criminals - all of them PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #38

How many pedophiles did he hide today? More garbage for the trash. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #39

Still looks like a bunch of old men in robes to me. MineralMan Jan 2014 #48

knr - thank your for posting - don't pay attention to the crazies - They don't want to build a Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #79

I think that this Pope is taking some bold steps to make changes in the way Beacool Jan 2014 #82

Progress is about moving things forward. Not only would Abraham Lincoln's views on race be utterly Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #85

Good post. Consider making it an OP sometime. n/t FSogol Jan 2014 #122

Oh, the Pope is progressive, huh? Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #108

Also crazy here Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #112

Right. Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #116

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #88

I see that inadvertently I started a discussion of which articles belong on GD. Beacool Jan 2014 #96

Oh goody. Another slobbering pope thread. Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #102

This belongs in the religion forum. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #106

Hasn't that point been brought up ad nauseam? Beacool Jan 2014 #109

No but the Pope has been. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #111

Oh, wow, another thread about how wonderful Blank Frank is! mr blur Jan 2014 #119