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22. Sorry, but every time a heavy favorite loses to an underdog it's a big deal.

Reply to Beacool (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 16, 2014, 04:14 PM

Jan 2014

Spin it any you want, but everyone remembers. It was only 6 years ago.

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People voted for Obama because he was not like Hillary [View all] Harmony Blue Jan 2014 OP

Polls seem to indicate the public respects Hillary. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #1

I respected Barry Goldwater, but I'm glad he wasn't president Jack Rabbit Jan 2014 #64

I am glad he is not president either. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #66

Hillary did want him to be President. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #134

Well, it isn't her fault that her parents raised her as a Republican Jack Rabbit Jan 2014 #138

People voted for Obama becausehe was Obama, not because geek tragedy Jan 2014 #2

Yep. Wait Wut Jan 2014 #7

Double yep. Don't forget the historic Republican obstructionalism though mikekohr Jan 2014 #60

wish i could remember who were the ones ranting here about how BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #72

It's back. In fact, it never went away. Hekate Jan 2014 #105

true. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #107

Yes, and many of us also don't care much for political dynasties. GoCubsGo Jan 2014 #57

Correct lumpy Jan 2014 #84

Nice big old broad brush you got there. Don't paint me with it. You don't know why I do what I do. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2014 #3

Speak for yourself frazzled Jan 2014 #4

Voted SamKnause Jan 2014 #5

I voted for Obama because I liked Obama. zappaman Jan 2014 #6

I voted for Hillary Clinton in the primary. ananda Jan 2014 #8

<holding my nose while reading your comment> n/t Tx4obama Jan 2014 #91

Thanks.. I needed Cha Jan 2014 #96

I voted for Hillary, because she was Hillary. Glassunion Jan 2014 #9

True... CoffeeCat Jan 2014 #10

Obama ran as a progressive. That's what got him elected. To ignore that is either ... Scuba Jan 2014 #11

He did? Because I don't remember him calling himself that.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #52

I disagree Harmony Blue Jan 2014 #71

yep. Phlem Jan 2014 #115

No-He ran an optimistic campaign,but beyond that there was MASSIVE projection on him from every side Hekate Jan 2014 #119

Exactly right. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #125

^this Marrah_G Jan 2014 #126

+10000000 treestar Jan 2014 #132

I voted for PBO because he CAMPAIGNED as a liberal; and his opponent's were the Devil's spawn. Vincardog Jan 2014 #12

I didn't vote for Obama in the primary. Cleita Jan 2014 #16

His ties and policy decisions in line with Wall Street are disappointing and must not be found in Vincardog Jan 2014 #23

+1 dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #34

I voted for Obama the first time, because he was saying things I wanted to hear. RC Jan 2014 #13

truth ^^^ Phlem Jan 2014 #102

Um, no. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #14

If Hillary had won the primary she would be President today. Walk away Jan 2014 #15

I beg to differ. Beacool Jan 2014 #17

Sorry, but every time a heavy favorite loses to an underdog it's a big deal. Dawgs Jan 2014 #22

It's not spin, just facts. Beacool Jan 2014 #27

So, only Hillary and her allies can determine if she's the front runner? Dawgs Jan 2014 #61

THERE IS NO POPULAR VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES karynnj Jan 2014 #32

Rec, I agree with this sentiment 100%. n/t PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #18

What makes people think that the person.... NCTraveler Jan 2014 #19

People voted for Obama based on his own merit, on his own person, because he's smart Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #20

That is correct Whisp Jan 2014 #21

Oh, please.......... Beacool Jan 2014 #29

not true. Hillary likes war, votes for it, and her friends profit from it. Whisp Jan 2014 #31

You should become a writer. Beacool Jan 2014 #33

of course, it's all a lie that Hillary was too tired for the Sunday Talkies... Whisp Jan 2014 #38

Hillary had an agreement not to do the Sunday shows. Beacool Jan 2014 #51

she said she was too tired. Whisp Jan 2014 #58

Susan Rice said that Hillary was too tired. Beacool Jan 2014 #78

so you are calling Susan Rice a liar Whisp Jan 2014 #81

So only poor people can work hard and be tired? Beacool Jan 2014 #101

with little reward, yes. oiy. n/t Whisp Jan 2014 #108

I'm sure Hillary would Love to trade jobs with Whisp Jan 2014 #123

Obama was interviewed right before the convention where he gave the key note speech karynnj Jan 2014 #36

He wasn't that vague. Beacool Jan 2014 #40

Vague in that he refused to say that he WOULD have voted for it karynnj Jan 2014 #44

He was against it before he was noncommittal and then back to being against it. Beacool Jan 2014 #53

True - and for reasons I suggested karynnj Jan 2014 #86

Obama isn't for dumb wars, Hillary apparently is. n/t Whisp Jan 2014 #109

The good old days...when Tim was the dumbest Russert in the public eye. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #135

Until he keeled over............ Beacool Jan 2014 #136

I voted for Obama because I thought he was a liberal. I have been sorely disappointed. liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #25

And you're making the same mistake with Schweitzer. You're not researching his entire platform. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2014 #35

I never said I was a supporter of Schweitzer. liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #41

I was torn MFM008 Jan 2014 #24

Obama ran as a Progressive Aerows Jan 2014 #26

That's not why I voted for Obama. I think Hillary upaloopa Jan 2014 #28

She's the very definition of Third Way. Marr Jan 2014 #50

Your history is a little off. It was pretty close to a tie. stevenleser Jan 2014 #30

Thanks, Steve. Beacool Jan 2014 #37

There is no such thing as the national popular vote karynnj Jan 2014 #39

I don't want to hear about the caucuses, they shouldn't even exist. Beacool Jan 2014 #43

Whether you think they should exist or not, they do karynnj Jan 2014 #45

Excuse me, but I didn't come up with these figures. Beacool Jan 2014 #48

Of course you did not come up with those figures,TEAM CLINTON and their media allies did karynnj Jan 2014 #68

TEAM CLINTON and their media allies???? Beacool Jan 2014 #77

How silly! karynnj Jan 2014 #85

I know. But it is something still reported. stevenleser Jan 2014 #46

I voted for Obama ProSense Jan 2014 #42

Plenty of people liked both Obama and Clinton. I would have been happy to support either one. n/t pnwmom Jan 2014 #47

Me too...because I am a Democrat and not ashamed of it! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #54

I voted for Obama in the primary and both general elections Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #49

And DADT is gone. And Obama has appointed a higher percentage of female & minority federal judges... Tx4obama Jan 2014 #92

They won't. Fool me once......... nt NorthCarolina Jan 2014 #55

No, it wasn't quite that cut and dried George II Jan 2014 #56

no, it was the hope and change thing. aikoaiko Jan 2014 #59

All the primary candidates that year started out equal with me. Starry Messenger Jan 2014 #62

John Edwards was actually my favorite at the beginning. He actually talked about the poor. liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #63

A focus on poverty and jobs are going to be what I'm looking for in our next candidate too. Starry Messenger Jan 2014 #94

I voted for Hillary in the primary and I will again. nolabear Jan 2014 #65

My 1st pick in 08 was Mike Gravel gwheezie Jan 2014 #67

I voted for Obama because he was the Democratic Candidate. LanternWaste Jan 2014 #69

I voted for Obama first time because he ran as a progressive abelenkpe Jan 2014 #70

The blame for GITMO still being open lays at the feet of the GOP. And regarding everything else... Tx4obama Jan 2014 #93

See #99 .. this Cha Jan 2014 #100

Yeah, I certainly blame republicans abelenkpe Jan 2014 #103

You need to educate yourself more.. Cha Jan 2014 #99

No I don't abelenkpe Jan 2014 #112

Yeah ya do.. ya really do. Cha Jan 2014 #113

Wow, you are mature abelenkpe Jan 2014 #116

LOLOL Skittles Jan 2014 #73

I think the same is true Warpy Jan 2014 #74

People voted for Obama because he was like Obama. dorkulon Jan 2014 #75

I voted for Obama because I wanted him to be POTUS. Rex Jan 2014 #76

I think they voted for him because of Bush and Cheney. G_j Jan 2014 #79

I was torn and would have voted for either one. cbayer Jan 2014 #80

a lot of us voted for HRC and then Obama. La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 #82

My vote for Obama had NOTHING to do with Hillary or anyone else. I wanted Obama to become president! Tx4obama Jan 2014 #83

You are not alone. nt mikekohr Jan 2014 #121

I voted for Obama in the primaries because I didn't want 4 years of Bill jokes on late night Boomerproud Jan 2014 #87

Your point that the country wants "someone with fresh new ideas"... polichick Jan 2014 #88

I didn't dislike Hillary--I just wrongly assumed Obama was more progressive yurbud Jan 2014 #89

That's not true. I would have voted for Hillary apples and oranges Jan 2014 #90

If Obama hadn't run, I probably would've voted for Hillary. temporary311 Jan 2014 #95

i Voted for Obama because i liked Obama, had nothing to do with voting against Hillary JI7 Jan 2014 #97

I agree. 99Forever Jan 2014 #98

People voted for Obama because he was Obama. People voted for O. because he was the Dem. Hekate Jan 2014 #104

Great insightful post. Dead on grasp of reality. mikekohr Jan 2014 #120

Thanks. So much psychological projection here it makes me shake my head in wonder... Hekate Jan 2014 #122

No matter who the candidate is nilesobek Jan 2014 #106

I think one thing Hillary has going for her justiceischeap Jan 2014 #110

This.......... Beacool Jan 2014 #137

Can you give an example how exactly Hillary would handle the Congress that Obama has? Whisp Jan 2014 #139

I think trying to work with this Congress by cajoling them obviously isn't working justiceischeap Jan 2014 #142

Obama won because he ran to the left of Hillary. n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #111

This is good dialogue! Phlem Jan 2014 #114

The differences between Obama and Clinton were largely cosmetic. nyquil_man Jan 2014 #117

Obama pretended to be to the left of Clinton on a variety of issues and it was all bullshit. Vattel Jan 2014 #118

If Obama was such a surprise, why do you suppose that Hillary won't be? lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #124

No. I voted for Obama because I trusted his leadership. Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #127

Might Want To Bone Up On The TPP colsohlibgal Jan 2014 #128

Good for you. Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #129

I will never vote for Hillary in a Democratic primary. Martin Eden Jan 2014 #130

Alas, he proved to be not much different from Hillary. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #131

Absolutely wrong. Whisp Jan 2014 #140

Did you forget that Obama escalated the lost war in Afghanistan and runs the drone wars? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #143

One big difference Between the President and Bill C., Barack Obama was elected Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #133

I did not see any difference between Barack and Hillary, so I did not vote in the Dem primary Zorra Jan 2014 #141