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jazzimov

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20. FDL is the "Newsmax" of Progressive circles. Don't believe

Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:25 PM

Jan 2014

anything you read there.

Are you familiar with the term "Firebaggers"? If so, have you ever wondered where it came from or to whom it applied?

Secondly, Snowden DID NOT make this country stronger. The debate was going to happen - Obama called for it repeatedly. What Snowden did was:

1. Ruin the debate, so that we couldn't have a "grown-up" serious debate but stirred-up the dissenters so that they ran around with their hair on fire.
2. Obscured the real debate and got everyone afraid of "the guvmint" when they should have been afraid of private data-collection.
3. Revealed the methods of data-collection, alerting those who wished to circumvent it how they could.

Snowden did NOT help the debate, he hurt it.

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If Snowden Made Us Stronger How Is He a Traitor? - FDL [View all] WillyT Jan 2014 OP

the fan club will be right along to explain Skittles Jan 2014 #1

! KG Jan 2014 #2

here, I'll get it started KG! ------> HILLARY!!! HILLARY!!! <------- Skittles Jan 2014 #4

Can I play? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #23

WORSHIP THEIR LEADER? Skittles Jan 2014 #31

Post endless beach phptos? R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #34

LOL !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #5

You Were Soooo Correct... WillyT Jan 2014 #21

the debate could have been had with or without snowden JI7 Jan 2014 #3

And... Precisely... Just HOW Would That Debate Have Been Initiated ??? WillyT Jan 2014 #6

the NSA has been around for decades JI7 Jan 2014 #8

Obama was totally going to start that conversation in February 2014! Fumesucker Jan 2014 #11

he could have had the conversation anytime unlike China and Russia which was his point JI7 Jan 2014 #12

Exactly! Fumesucker Jan 2014 #13

Snowden is weakening his claims by hanging out in Russia and not criticizing Russia and China JI7 Jan 2014 #14

Precisely, if Snowden had stayed in the US he could have accessed the press like Chelsea Manning did Fumesucker Jan 2014 #16

he could have done it in many ways , since Snowden wasn't military like Manning he would have had JI7 Jan 2014 #18

Tell us more about these "more options" and the many splendid ways... R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #25

He "ran off" to China and Russia pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #29

Snowden should be brought up on charges of treason for R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #24

We could have just "gone along" SPYING ON AMERICANS".... KoKo Jan 2014 #9

He should be in prison ProSense Jan 2014 #7

I'm not sure that you have a point. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #26

Lol! From you this is truly funny Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #27

FDL? Fumesucker Jan 2014 #10

He should have stopped with releasing info on domestic . . . brush Jan 2014 #15

Well said Egnever Jan 2014 #19

+1, Der Spiegel said the docs he gave them could place opperatives in danger, that was needless uponit7771 Jan 2014 #33

The president himself was surprised at the scale NSA spying so Snowden did him a service as well. pa28 Jan 2014 #17

FDL is the "Newsmax" of Progressive circles. Don't believe jazzimov Jan 2014 #20

"The debate was going to happen - Obama called for it repeatedly." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #28

lol Marr Jan 2014 #39

Don't confuse us with reason! jimlup Jan 2014 #22

Why don't you think its possible for creeksneakers2 Jan 2014 #30

Snowden Hypocrisy = The surveillance programs should be part of national discussion and ... uponit7771 Jan 2014 #32

Thank you. woo me with science Jan 2014 #35

DURec for Snowden and the Whistle Blowers. bvar22 Jan 2014 #36

K&R times 1000. nt riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #37

Snowden showed the world what the roaches at NSA are doing and Obama responded with band-aids. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #38