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freshwest

(53,661 posts)
15. Not weird, neither was it when Kucinich did. Different job titles. Respect all of them.
Sun Jan 19, 2014, 01:03 AM
Jan 2014
Obama brought Warren to Washington, D.C.:



Elizabeth Warren's Full DNC Speech - Elections 2012




More from Warren on Obama:



MISS THIS? Last Week, Obama Endorsed Bernie Sanders’ Citizens United Overhaul (from 2012)



...Of the many questions he answered, perhaps most intriguing to progressives was his endorsement of Sen. Bernie Sanders’ Saving Democracy Amendment, a constitutional amendment that tackles campaign finance reform and specifically overturns the Supreme Court’s Citizens United v. FEC decision.

Although he admitted there is only a small chance that the amendment would pass, it does give a boost to a conversation about dark money and it’s place in the American political spectrum. Answering a participant’s question, Obama stated:

“Money has always been a factor in politics, but we are seeing something new in the no-holds barred flow of seven and eight figure checks, most undisclosed, into super-PACs; they fundamentally threaten to overwhelm the political process over the long run and drown out the voices of ordinary citizens. We need to start with passing the Disclose Act that is already written and been sponsored in Congress – to at least force disclosure of who is giving to who. We should also pass legislation prohibiting the bundling of campaign contributions from lobbyists. Over the longer term, I think we need to seriously consider mobilizing a constitutional amendment process to overturn Citizens United (assuming the Supreme Court doesn’t revisit it). Even if the amendment process falls short, it can shine a spotlight of the super-PAC phenomenon and help apply pressure for change...”


Sen. Sanders Saving Democracy Amendment states:

SECTION 1.
The rights protected by the Constitution of the United States are the rights of natural persons and do not extend to for-profit corporations, limited liability companies, or other private entities established for business purposes or to promote business interests under the laws of any state, the United States, or any foreign state.

SECTION 2.
Such corporate and other private entities established under law are subject to regulation by the people through the legislative process so long as such regulations are consistent with the powers of Congress and the States and do not limit the freedom of the press.

SECTION 3. Such corporate and other private entities shall be prohibited from making contributions or expenditures in any election of any candidate for public office or the vote upon any ballot measure submitted to the people.

SECTION 4.
Congress and the States shall have the power to regulate and set limits on all election contributions and expenditures, including a candidate’s own spending, and to authorize the establishment of political committees to receive, spend, and publicly disclose the sources of those contributions and expenditures.

http://wepartypatriots.com/wp/2012/09/03/miss-this-last-week-obama-endorsed-bernie-sanders-citizens-united-overhaul/

Obama spoke on United Citizens the year it was decided by the USSC, and supported the Disclose Act which was filibustered. Obama said a Constitutional Amendment would be very hard to pass, but could help mobilize the public.

We saw the effects in 2010 as the dark money took over all the elections in the states and congress. We are still living with the fallout, and it has not let up one bit since that year. It was another coup by the conservative court.

I've seen Kucinich personally stand up for Obama, saying he is a progressive and has a different job than his. That he would do his, just like Obama does his.



Kucinich Asks Supporters To Back Obama As Second Choice In Iowa




03/28/08

Dennis Kucinich advised his supporters Tuesday that if he failed to garner enough backers in the first round of the Iowa caucuses, they should throw their support behind Sen. Barack Obama...

"I hope Iowans will caucus for me as their first choice this Thursday, Kucinich said in a statement to the press. "But in those caucus locations where my support doesn't reach the necessary threshold, I strongly encourage all of my supporters to make Barack Obama their second choice. Sen. Obama and I have one thing in common: Change..."

In a statement emailed out to reporters, Obama thanked the veteran Ohio Congressman for his support.

"I have a lot of respect for Congressman Kucinich, and I'm honored that he has done this because we both believe deeply in the need for fundamental change," said Senator Obama.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/01/kucinich-asks-supporters-_n_79088.html

The desire to present any of these people as enemies is a big fail, or just ignorant. There is no daylight between them on things that matter. They know the big picture and are doing their part.

Media is working to divide Democrats for the GOP. Thank goodness our elected officials are not fooled and are each doing their part and working in their own way.

Cheers for all these united Democrats.




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Suggests something, doesn't it? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #1
yup. plenty of innuendo. no substance, tho'. nt delrem Jan 2014 #4
Much like the "innuendo" that birthers are racist... ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2014 #85
"communists"? Red baiting? Jeez, is this the 1950's??? delrem Jan 2014 #112
The 1950s called, they want their red baiting back. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #114
lol - count your piles of $$$ now TBF Jan 2014 #115
+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #98
Weird? They agree with him when they agree, they disagree when they disagree Armstead Jan 2014 #2
Lotta people think you have to swallow someone whole tblue Jan 2014 #8
Mystery solved in two posts! ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #47
+1 Scuba Jan 2014 #68
For some people, everything is binary and the people that don't Rex Jan 2014 #87
In a sense, it's that "excluded middle." immoderate Jan 2014 #3
no arely staircase Jan 2014 #5
You know what's really weird? ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2014 #6
TMI tblue Jan 2014 #9
What a perfect metaphor for the OP. morningfog Jan 2014 #10
I'm ba-aaaaaack!!! Muahahahahaha!!! Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #11
I have no idea what you are yammering about, but morningfog Jan 2014 #13
I was referring to your posts leading up to my break Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #17
Ah, that is why the air felt cleaner recently. morningfog Jan 2014 #21
I figured you were one Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #23
You mean flame bait OP's like yours? morningfog Jan 2014 #26
2 out of my last 5 alerts crossed no lines Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #30
Good fucking GAWD! HangOnKids Jan 2014 #50
Did the juries say that? I doubt it. morningfog Jan 2014 #64
Thanks for your OPINION on my op. others disagree Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #72
And others agree. morningfog Jan 2014 #77
"Enjoy your stay." Rex Jan 2014 #89
And yet you seem determined to go on another break. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #116
Other than expressing my opinions without hesitation Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #118
OMG, you are so right. progressoid Jan 2014 #34
Oh sure, but take a big, deep whiff. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #58
Sanders has also been very critical of Obama on many issues . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #7
I only judge it based on what my own eyes see and my Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #12
Nope. You're not alone at all. eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #31
Isn't it weird how they also criticize some of his policy directions and decisions. Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #14
Yeah, sort of like the posters that worked for him, voted for him... polichick Jan 2014 #53
Not weird, neither was it when Kucinich did. Different job titles. Respect all of them. freshwest Jan 2014 #15
These are great! Thanks for adding them Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #16
Don't let the media divide us. We must be united! n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #18
I agree! I'm a great supporter of Sanders, Warren, Wyden, Obama, Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #20
We are Americans. We don't have to walk in lock-step with any leader. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #37
+1 Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #25
Brilliant post, freshwest.. thank you! Cha Jan 2014 #52
This would make a fantastic OP. redqueen Jan 2014 #102
Give me a good title and I'll try for it. n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #103
Excellent! sheshe2 Jan 2014 #119
"Fan base"? WorseBeforeBetter Jan 2014 #19
Politics makes strange bedfellows pscot Jan 2014 #22
And Tip O'Neal Rodriguez who said Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #24
Elizabeth Warren is a Democrat and Bernie Sanders is registered Independent but votes mostly Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #27
That was only the first part of my statement Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #28
They all Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #29
Agreed! Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #32
The "rift" is as imagined as it ever was. Number23 Jan 2014 #33
I don't think Democrats are sowing division or are afflicted with ODS. Both would be illogical. freshwest Jan 2014 #38
You say JDPriestly Jan 2014 #40
Oh, I remember that image. It was bang on correct and set the usual suspects howling Number23 Jan 2014 #42
Those considered ODS = right wing infiltrators. joshcryer Jan 2014 #46
Go ahead and post your *list* Josh Fumesucker Jan 2014 #51
I can only name a few off the top of my head. joshcryer Jan 2014 #54
Jealousy is a very destructive emotion Fumesucker Jan 2014 #56
I have to confess BainsBane Jan 2014 #71
Not here, anyway. pintobean Jan 2014 #100
franksolich? Are you saying Manny is a mole at the Cave? Autumn Jan 2014 #76
That's much more likely pintobean Jan 2014 #79
Well it's not Manny, because Manny is very sharp, and Manny has one Autumn Jan 2014 #82
Yeah, Manny would really have to pintobean Jan 2014 #84
He would have to do more than dumb down. Autumn Jan 2014 #113
Hmmm... thanks for putting *Goldstein* in italics MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #88
Criticizing some of the President's policies does not constitute a "rift" between us and the JDPriestly Jan 2014 #39
I strongly agree with everything you've written in this post. NancyDL Jan 2014 #48
Thanks Nancy. And I agree with every word that you've written Number23 Jan 2014 #105
That second paragraph says it all! Thanks. n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #107
you wont see most Obama supporters criticizing those, even if they are critical of Obama as Sanders JI7 Jan 2014 #61
Maybe Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are not really hero worshipers and maybe they JDPriestly Jan 2014 #35
They're politicians. Sanders is probably against the NSA. joshcryer Jan 2014 #45
He remembers the cold war and WWII unlike many DUers who are too young to remember that JDPriestly Jan 2014 #60
If he really is a socialist, he'd be against the NSA. joshcryer Jan 2014 #62
Yes. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #67
That's just nonsense. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #69
Thank you. woo me with science Jan 2014 #74
You're questioning whether Senator Sanders is a socialist? n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #95
Appreciating the acknowledgement that NSA is sweeping up everything possible. woo me with science Jan 2014 #97
Here is his statement post Obama's speech, Bernie's actual position Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #70
If disagreements about the NSA here on DU we're as reasoned and polite as Sanders Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #99
I have no idea what you are saying in this post, but your OP does not mesh with Sanders' own Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #110
The world does not revolve around DU. My post was Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #111
No, not at all. silvershadow Jan 2014 #36
I think it is interesting that because one is in a fanbase, they assume everyone else is too. TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #41
Spot on! n/t markpkessinger Jan 2014 #55
By their statements and embedded images you will know them Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #91
No not at all, but then again, we're not all afflicted with the same ailment that you suffer from. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #43
Not really, they are politicians. joshcryer Jan 2014 #44
LOL NancyDL Jan 2014 #49
Not half as weird . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #57
Using Bernie. Using Bernie to try and burnish the President's liberal credentials cali Jan 2014 #59
It is laughable, indeed. djean111 Jan 2014 #63
Yes, it's about focusing on personality over policy. It's for those who aren't too cali Jan 2014 #65
You are missing the point Cali. Maybe purposefully maybe not Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #90
they don't support him on many, many issues and both have made that clear. furthermore cali Jan 2014 #66
This is nonsense. Sanders ProSense Jan 2014 #73
Sorry, my dear pro-sense, but the reality is that bernie's politics are far to the left of Obama's cali Jan 2014 #75
So? He's ProSense Jan 2014 #81
lol. here. cali Jan 2014 #83
Revisionist history about the future? Interesting concept Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #92
No, not even a little bit weird, frankly. That's how politics works. Coyotl Jan 2014 #78
Their Actually the only people accusing the 1% , cutting to the chase ? orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #80
Bingo. And the vocal few that always try and stir up shit Rex Jan 2014 #86
So you're saying Barack Obama hasn't attacked banksters Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #94
Talk about the TPP with this Government.. Mortgage, Insurance Bail- OUTS !!! Revisionist history !!! orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #96
Only for people utterly unfamiliar with the way American politics work DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #93
I just had a thought. Will the Warren 2016 bumper stickers turn into Hillary 2016 if she wins the freshwest Jan 2014 #101
Elizabeth Warren said she supports Hillary? MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #104
Very well said Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #106
And were not doing what Hillary wanted, either. Her support for Obama was obvious. freshwest Jan 2014 #108
No AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #109
Black and white thinking. NCTraveler Jan 2014 #117
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