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MADem

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42. Which China? You know Taiwan "is" China, yes?
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 11:30 AM
Mar 2012

It's the China that doesn't want to be absorbed by "red" China.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China

The Republic of China (ROC), commonly known as Taiwan (see below), is a unitary sovereign state located in East Asia.[18] Originally based in mainland China, the Republic of China currently governs the island of Taiwan (known in the past as Formosa), which forms over 99% of its current territory,[19] as well as Penghu, Kinmen, Matsu and other minor islands. Neighboring states include the People's Republic of China (PRC) to the west, Japan to the east and northeast, and the Philippines to the south. Taipei is the capital city and also the economic and cultural centre of the country .[1]
The Republic of China, established in mainland China in 1912, governed most of mainland China prior to the outbreak of the civil war, then received Taiwan and associated islands from the Surrender of Japan at the end of World War II in late 1945. However, the ROC lost its mainland territory in the Chinese Civil War to Communist forces who founded the People's Republic of China (PRC) on that territory in 1949, and the ROC relocated its government to the island of Taiwan, which composes most of its current territory. The ROC government officially claims to represent all of "China" (in a definition including Taiwan) via its constitution, but, in practice, has ceased to actively pursue this stance since 1992.[20] Meanwhile, the People's Republic of China (PRC), simply known as "China", also officially asserts to be the sole legal representation of China, and actively claims that both mainland China and Taiwan should be under its sovereignty, denying the status of the existing Republic of China as a sovereign state.
The Republic of China is a multi-party democracy that has a presidential system and universal suffrage. It experienced rapid economic growth, industrialization, and democratization on Taiwan during the latter half of the 20th century. Despite its controversial political status, the ROC is an industrialized advanced economy. It is one of the Four Asian Tigers and a member of the WTO and APEC. The 19th-largest economy in the world,[21][22] its advanced technology industry plays a key role in the global economy. The ROC is ranked highly in terms of freedom of the press, health care,[23] public education, economic freedom, and human development.[15][16][24]

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My Nokia N9 smartphone is made in Finland pschoeb Mar 2012 #1
That's nice, what about the rest of the stuff around your house? MadHound Mar 2012 #2
I mostly make my own clothes, pschoeb Mar 2012 #5
Then you are an exception, MadHound Mar 2012 #6
So, you're unemployed, then? nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #13
Sorry, but Nokia has recently moved its cellphone assembly to China frazzled Mar 2012 #36
insert electronic device here DJ13 Mar 2012 #3
LOL Robb Mar 2012 #7
lmao chrisa Mar 2012 #11
eeeeeeeeeeew! I just got that. Pholus Mar 2012 #26
Yep. But, gotta keep that old team rivalry going, huh? freshwest Mar 2012 #4
Thanks, K&R! Zalatix Mar 2012 #8
If electronics were made in America sulphurdunn Mar 2012 #9
When I use TechTool, OnyxCollie Mar 2012 #10
Then you have missed the point. Pholus Mar 2012 #12
So, we're all Republicans now? harmonicon Mar 2012 #15
When your government is beholden to corporations, it most certainly... joshcryer Mar 2012 #19
When did that change happen to the constitution? harmonicon Mar 2012 #20
it's called PLUTOCRACY Skittles Mar 2012 #66
Exactly. harmonicon Mar 2012 #68
I think that's what shocks me because the answer leans "yes." Pholus Mar 2012 #24
Of course it's about increasing corporate profits. harmonicon Mar 2012 #27
Nicely said.... Pholus Mar 2012 #35
Actually not true. OrwellwasRight Mar 2012 #59
I think you're agreeing with me, not disagreeing. harmonicon Mar 2012 #64
Yes and no. OrwellwasRight Mar 2012 #71
I agree. I tried to find dog toys not made in China, but I couldn't. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #14
Try children's toys not made in China. Jennicut Mar 2012 #23
Here you go, a first step. A way to make a difference. Pholus Mar 2012 #25
Paying $80 for a cotton T is stupid. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #28
Ruff Dawg dog toys are made in the USA. OnyxCollie Mar 2012 #48
Just like we can buy coffee that is certified "fair trade" Nye Bevan Mar 2012 #16
It is never "foolish" to denigrate the worst offenders with the most profits. joshcryer Mar 2012 #17
One thing you fail to mention obxhead Mar 2012 #18
Because some poor people think Apple is "cool." MADem Mar 2012 #43
I don't own an iPad or iPhone MadHound Mar 2012 #46
Not owning one, I can't dispute your assertions. MADem Mar 2012 #47
Those folks are called iDouches. Don't be an iDouche! madinmaryland Mar 2012 #60
Ah, is that what I am now, MadHound Mar 2012 #63
Huh? I was referring to the folks you described in your post. Did you say that madinmaryland Mar 2012 #73
Because they can? jeff47 Mar 2012 #44
I'm not fuming in rage. obxhead Mar 2012 #51
And the problem is......? jeff47 Mar 2012 #62
nvm obxhead Mar 2012 #69
The costs are high but where does the money go? Initech Mar 2012 #21
Plus jobs for Americans and a cleaner environment. They're poisoning everywhere that's unregulated judesedit Mar 2012 #22
If you are going to fight a multi-pronged was, best to start with the biggest 'offender' The Straight Story Mar 2012 #29
Some might say ... GeorgeGist Mar 2012 #30
it's the cultish behavior of Apple nuts that drives me crazy. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #31
What is this "cult" you speak of? LiberalLovinLug Mar 2012 #52
You just proved my point. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #53
what point? LiberalLovinLug Mar 2012 #74
Ha! you are so wrong! OVERPAID01 Mar 2012 #32
Which China? You know Taiwan "is" China, yes? MADem Mar 2012 #42
I question the notion that we can bring pressure on corportations. Left Coast2020 Mar 2012 #33
You are one of the few people in this thread making any sense. harmonicon Mar 2012 #34
Amen! Read labels please. Mimosa Mar 2012 #37
The list of non-Chinese electronics in this house is not short. BiggJawn Mar 2012 #38
Ah, another old radio collector. MadHound Mar 2012 #45
Antique Electronic Supply BiggJawn Mar 2012 #49
Rec excuse not to write Mar 2012 #39
There is a new TV manufacturer wilt the stilt Mar 2012 #40
The thing I'm using was made in Taiwan! MADem Mar 2012 #41
If the electronic industry leaders insist on better working conditions, shcrane71 Mar 2012 #50
But corporations will never do that because shareholders will scream. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #54
If shares are going down because people won't purchase items due to shcrane71 Mar 2012 #55
Starts with a false premise. I bought a Samsung LED/LCD monitor yesterday--fabriqué au Mexique. nt Romulox Mar 2012 #56
It's not foolish. You have to start somewhere. OrwellwasRight Mar 2012 #57
And if Apple, the media darling were to take the lead on this Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #61
Exactly! nt. OrwellwasRight Mar 2012 #72
You're comparing two different industries .99center Mar 2012 #58
I have been reading the book, The Help. It was quite popular a couple of years ago. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #65
Made in China is not 100% correct johnd83 Mar 2012 #67
The little booklet protector my US passport sits in... Javaman Mar 2012 #70
Pretty much most electronics..Though I do recycle, repurpose and reuse all I can. Tikki Mar 2012 #75
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