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Lurks Often

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62. What makes you think even more laws will make a damn bit of difference?

Sat Jan 25, 2014, 03:10 PM

Jan 2014

Murder is against the law, the penalties for committing murder don't prevent people from doing it already.
Maryland specific laws:
Concealed Carry in Maryland is prohibited unless you can present "Has a good and substantial reason to wear, carry, or transport a handgun" https://www.mdsp.org/Organization/SupportServicesBureau/LicensingDivision/MainLicensingPage/LicensingandRegistration/Firearms/WearandCarryPermit.aspx
Open carry is prohibited
Magazines are limited to 10 rounds
You need a Handgun Qualification License to purchase a handgun after 10/1/13

Maryland has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country and is ranked #7 according to the Brady Campaign: http://www.bradycampaign.org/sites/default/files/2011_Brady_Campaign_State_Scorecard_Rankings.pdf

So what other laws to do you think will prevent these shootings? And do you think that a) you have a chance to get them passed at the state or federal level and b) they will hold up in court?

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Another day, another shooting [View all] nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 OP

But we're told, even right here on DU, that there is no need to have any fear taught_me_patience Jan 2014 #1

And i got to go to a mall today nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #2

We have been told .... etherealtruth Jan 2014 #3

It's our right to "strut" around alive, too. Frustratedlady Jan 2014 #6

No, no the rights of "guns " trump all other rights etherealtruth Jan 2014 #8

Guns are more important than people, silly. Iggo Jan 2014 #33

Indeed, but, but freedumb!!! nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #11

Oh, the gun-lickers have their snarky apologetics ready for *any* scale atrocity... villager Jan 2014 #93

No one was walking around with AR-15s or anything else. former9thward Jan 2014 #136

just reported on m$nbc...3 shot dead.... spanone Jan 2014 #4

Only 3 dead? Nothing to see, move along. MoonRiver Jan 2014 #5

We lived a mile from that mall in Maryland until we moved to Ohio madinmaryland Jan 2014 #7

I think I understand etherealtruth Jan 2014 #12

That *is* too close for comfort nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #13

We are dreading the announcements of who has died. This is within madinmaryland Jan 2014 #14

My thoughts are with you. lapislzi Jan 2014 #68

I used to live in that area too, been to that mall many times. kcr Jan 2014 #83

Later, much later, if it changes at all. MH1 Jan 2014 #9

rescind the 2nd amendment, now! n/t PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #10

Yes, because climate change isn't real and the NSA is totally harmless. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #15

Actually I am all for gun owners being part of a well regulated militia nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #19

There ARE some well regulated militias in our nation. ... spin Jan 2014 #89

What? Oakenshield Jan 2014 #38

says PowerToThePeople - Skip Intro Jan 2014 #21

Just the power I want to the people! Nt Adrahil Jan 2014 #39

Gunz != Power n/t PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #52

This shit again? n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #70

Do you really think the shooter was a law abiding citizen? seveneyes Jan 2014 #84

we could just ban all gun sales PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #99

they would just make them Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #102

they can already do that. PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #122

like pot and cocaine Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #154

let's see... PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #156

cocaine? Crack? Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #157

we are all "law abiding citizens" onethatcares Jan 2014 #115

You don't fucking "rescind" parts of the Constitution. (They're called clues, and can be found cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #107

ban all guns. ban all ammo. rescind the 2nd. n/t PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #120

Good luck with that. pintobean Jan 2014 #124

yeah go ahead and run for ANY election with that plank as part of your platform shedevil69taz Jan 2014 #151

'Murica! RetroLounge Jan 2014 #16

Ok so 360 million guns in the US Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #17

our current nuclear aresenal is over 5,000, so if we fire off one that's 4999 .... spanone Jan 2014 #18

I guess Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #24

if you're on the receiving end of it, it really doesn't matter at all. spanone Jan 2014 #43

Do you know how many deaths each year are directly related to alcohol? Adrahil Jan 2014 #46

alcohol is a problem. guns are a problem. cancer is a problem. hate is a problem. spanone Jan 2014 #51

But the banning solution is no solution Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #53

I don't disagree, but what's the justification for elevating this one? Adrahil Jan 2014 #66

I just love your "logic" nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #20

It's not logic, its perspective Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #26

Likely from a gun fan nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #28

See ya, how did the recorder work out Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #30

Well I guess that we can both agree that there is no logic in what you said Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #55

Exactly. Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #56

How many senseless gun murders are acceptable to you? etherealtruth Jan 2014 #23

How many DUI homicides are acceptable to you Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #27

i knew that was coming! bwahahahahaaa enjoy. spanone Jan 2014 #29

Exactly it's a meaningless question. Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #31

It is a very meaningful question etherealtruth Jan 2014 #34

how many murders are acceptable from gun violence? spanone Jan 2014 #36

None. Murder is a crime Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #44

None ... I support strict laws against drinking and driving etherealtruth Jan 2014 #32

I support laws against mass shooting Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #42

You do realize how tired and stupid the "gun' / auto comparison is ... etherealtruth Jan 2014 #45

No true Scotsman... billh58 Jan 2014 #48

I'm not NRA Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #54

Yet you repeat the NRA billh58 Jan 2014 #69

Or maybe you're just in denial Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #74

I'm not trying to billh58 Jan 2014 #77

Good start with NRA parrot comment Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #78

I'm sorry I'm missed your solution Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #50

Car accidents are not equal to murder with a gun XRubicon Jan 2014 #57

No. Both are involved in accidents and acts of violence Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #58

cars are involved in acts of violence? XRubicon Jan 2014 #61

Nonsense. beevul Jan 2014 #81

LOL! XRubicon Jan 2014 #82

Wow! LOL Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #87

It is not worth the time or energy trying to discuss this with someone that makes that "argument" etherealtruth Jan 2014 #59

Still banning 360 million Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #65

What makes you think even more laws will make a damn bit of difference? Lurks Often Jan 2014 #62

Sshhh Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #63

We don't need new laws, we need to tax guns to reduce the numbers on the street. XRubicon Jan 2014 #64

Aside from the fact that you will never get that through Congress Lurks Often Jan 2014 #67

Good, your $50,000 plus friends will have to pay more XRubicon Jan 2014 #72

You missed the part about never getting that through Congress n/t Lurks Often Jan 2014 #128

You missed the part about caring for others. nt XRubicon Jan 2014 #130

Was that really the best you could as a reply? n/t Lurks Often Jan 2014 #132

Yes, go look in the mirror XRubicon Jan 2014 #134

Thanks for the laugh n/t Lurks Often Jan 2014 #138

I knew looking in the mirror would make you laugh, you are welcome. XRubicon Jan 2014 #139

Really, you've devolved to elementary school insults now? Lurks Often Jan 2014 #141

What? XRubicon Jan 2014 #142

Perhaps it's time for you to take your childish insults elsewhere n/t Lurks Often Jan 2014 #143

perhaps you should take your gun nuttery elsewhere XRubicon Jan 2014 #145

And lots of people can be Democrats and pro-gun, just look at Harry Reid Lurks Often Jan 2014 #146

20 first graders. XRubicon Jan 2014 #148

I'm laughing at YOU and your posts Lurks Often Jan 2014 #149

I knew you'd be back XRubicon Jan 2014 #150

I noticed you avoided addressing the fact that Harry Reid is pro-gun Lurks Often Jan 2014 #158

And Democrats can also be billh58 Jan 2014 #153

You're entitled to your opinion, but gun control is losing more battles then it's winning. Lurks Often Jan 2014 #161

Automatic/machine guns were done away with via taxation? Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #80

NFA 1934 XRubicon Jan 2014 #90

Wow. Fair enough. Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #95

It wasn't taxes the made automatic weapons rare hack89 Jan 2014 #92

When the tax was introduced it was equivalent to $3478 XRubicon Jan 2014 #96

No - it was through restricting the number of weapons hack89 Jan 2014 #97

No XRubicon Jan 2014 #101

Dream on hack89 Jan 2014 #104

It is a tax XRubicon Jan 2014 #106

A poll tax is a tax too. hack89 Jan 2014 #110

When did you pass the bar? XRubicon Jan 2014 #111

I will be here when you want to pick the conversation hack89 Jan 2014 #119

I think we are too far apart on this issue XRubicon Jan 2014 #121

Severely limiting access and ownership of guns is a start etherealtruth Jan 2014 #71

I find your proposals unrealistic Lurks Often Jan 2014 #129

Maryland may have strict gun laws however Virginia's are anything but etherealtruth Jan 2014 #137

So you have information that states the shooter got his gun from Virginia? Lurks Often Jan 2014 #140

I lived in northern Virginia ... It is a well known gun pipeline to other states etherealtruth Jan 2014 #147

The residents of Virginia seem perfectly content with their existing gun laws, Lurks Often Jan 2014 #159

here's a start. spanone Jan 2014 #76

which is not a "gun show loophole" Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #85

and many of these 'private sales' occur at gun shows. spanone Jan 2014 #86

still a private sale Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #155

Take it up with the citizens and legislatures of those states Lurks Often Jan 2014 #131

So long as the gun enthusiasts and gun lobby intimidate the public, not a whole lot. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2014 #160

If you are suggesting that all firearms be banned and removed from the hands of honest citizens ... spin Jan 2014 #94

I am suggesting accountability and uniformity is gun laws etherealtruth Jan 2014 #100

Obviously if your personal preference is "No guns" you will support firearm accountability ... spin Jan 2014 #123

You're asking the wrong question. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2014 #162

That's a fair point Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #163

That WRC anchor that was just asking the on-scene reporter stupid questions is ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #22

Knowing how the laundry is washed nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #25

She's asking questions for which the answers are playing out on the camera feed, as if she doesn't ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #37

The problem is that cameras hire them for looks nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #40

Oh god, the reporters with the chief of police are just a vapid... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #47

Realize, some come from the control room nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #116

What is that, a toy? If you like Hello Kitty you can have more firepower than that.... NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #125

Are the guns okay?! Deep13 Jan 2014 #35

Both the gun and ammo are ok nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #41

I believe they've been arrested and will be charged. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #49

Well as the George Zimmerman case proves, gun nuts often don't believe the shooter has culpability Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #60

culpability alone did not shoot the victims. nt Deep13 Jan 2014 #73

The person pullling the trigger is 100% culpable. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #75

How did this person get this inanimate object, twitched their nose and it appeared? nt boston bean Jan 2014 #79

Why? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2014 #88

Well it goes right to the availability of guns that other PEOPLE, not inanimate boston bean Jan 2014 #91

"Allowing" a gun to another person... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2014 #105

It is the culture of the guns, persons who favor carrying them everywhere, the NRA boston bean Jan 2014 #113

re: "I'm sorry, but something has to change..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2014 #117

No. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #118

Shooting happend inside a skate shop B2G Jan 2014 #98

I wish we could be like Japan, England or Canada shenmue Jan 2014 #103

CNN: Domestic dispute and a shotgun. ManiacJoe Jan 2014 #108

The radio did a good job reporting this justiceischeap Jan 2014 #144

Update B2G Jan 2014 #109

Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it. kestrel91316 Jan 2014 #112

My niece and her hubby live 10 miles from there--15 minute drive--very scary. mnhtnbb Jan 2014 #114

There were also school shooting every single day this week malaise Jan 2014 #126

It has to stop, I just don't know how nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #127

It's frightening malaise Jan 2014 #133

When it does, I suspect it will be seemingly sudden nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #135

At some point these shootings are going to impact Turbineguy Jan 2014 #152