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VanillaRhapsody

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52. then how the hell would you know?

Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:01 PM

Jan 2014

perhaps you should have watched it for yourself....perhaps others would take you more seriously. Some of us consider the SOTU required watching if you are a political hound...no matter which party is in power...

But forming opinions about the "optics" and you didn't even watch it...that is just ludicrous! and Disingenuous...and truly speaks volumes about YOUR motivations!

Here is how Jimmy Kimmel sees it when even NON political people make opinions about the SOTU without seeing it..

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Using the military and soldiers as props, and for war glory propaganda [View all] quinnox Jan 2014 OP

jealous of the attention the other thread someone posted got? nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #1

Seems that way, doesn't it Andy823 Jan 2014 #16

Yep. Desert805 Jan 2014 #78

Nailed it in Post #1!! Number23 Jan 2014 #81

So we should be ashamed of our troops? Is that your argument? nt el_bryanto Jan 2014 #2

not at all quinnox Jan 2014 #4

Not so terrible at all . . . brush Jan 2014 #74

If you are referring to last night, you couldn't be more wrong IMO...n/t monmouth3 Jan 2014 #3

I'm taking a broader perspective, about something all our presidents do quinnox Jan 2014 #5

Did you forget that the President is also the Commander-in-Chief? FSogol Jan 2014 #14

So sounds like you agree with my main premise then quinnox Jan 2014 #20

Quinnox, if you said the sky was blue, I'd go outside and check. n/t FSogol Jan 2014 #23

True..we should not be always Waving the Flag and talking about War Heroes KoKo Jan 2014 #44

funny I bet those that serve don't think their service to the country is "faux" VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #6

do you think I'm "un-American" for expressing these thoughts? quinnox Jan 2014 #8

I think this particular one is yes... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #9

Don't be deliberately obtuse. Vattel Jan 2014 #40

That is not obtuse...I don't fall into "traps" set by those who want to control the narrative... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #43

Telling VR to not be deliberately obtuse is like telling salt to not be salty. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #85

"Prop" is short for property. People are NOT property. Pathwalker Jan 2014 #7

The message I got Control-Z Jan 2014 #10

What about in a historical sense. My OP is talking about that. quinnox Jan 2014 #12

Oh, I took it more in a hysterical sense. Whisp Jan 2014 #58

I agree with you Andy823 Jan 2014 #13

It is especially ridiculous that someone who bragged about not watching is quick to criticize. FSogol Jan 2014 #17

The OP made no mention of the SOTU address 1000words Jan 2014 #22

He did last night. And it should be obvious what he's doing. n/t FSogol Jan 2014 #24

Whether it was the case last night, or not ... 1000words Jan 2014 #28

And you are free to put me on ignore. FSogol Jan 2014 #31

When you give me a reason, I will. 1000words Jan 2014 #33

so everything on DU happens in a vaccum? Nothing you ever say in the past is supposed VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #48

Even the Late Night talk shows were making fun of those who formed an opinion about the SOTU VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #46

Self centered psuedo-progressives! FSogol Jan 2014 #53

I do! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #62

LOL, Which one is Q in that video? FSogol Jan 2014 #87

o good lawd! Whisp Jan 2014 #61

Read what Obama said after introducing the soldier. What was the message there? Vattel Jan 2014 #41

LOL: You Better Believe It! You told us you didn't watch which explains why FSogol Jan 2014 #11

seems like some are like Bush who didn't want anyone to see Coffins of Soldiers arriving home JI7 Jan 2014 #15

Didn't Bush often use soldiers as backdrops and so on quinnox Jan 2014 #18

i don't remember them ever focusing on what soldiers went through during war JI7 Jan 2014 #19

So you agree presidents will often use the military as props, or as backdrops quinnox Jan 2014 #29

Was that what Obama was doing? Cause that is not what I saw... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #49

Were all the other guests at the SOTU props? Are only military members reduced to TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #21

So you don't think presidents often use the military as props, or backdrops when giving speeches quinnox Jan 2014 #25

Not often, if the context makes sense. Are you a prop when your boss TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #34

BTW, here is an example of using veterans as props: TwilightGardener Jan 2014 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Vattel Jan 2014 #42

I thought you didn't watch the speech? Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #26

I didn't quinnox Jan 2014 #32

Oh...so the OP is just about the history of that practice Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #36

well, actually, I do know some of what he said, becasue I read some of the transcript quinnox Jan 2014 #38

I don't believe that you are looking at this correctly yeoman6987 Jan 2014 #47

and that can't change? quinnox Jan 2014 #51

Well, what else can he say? truedelphi Jan 2014 #65

NO! yeoman6987 Jan 2014 #66

The President is the Commander-in-Chief... Adrahil Jan 2014 #76

I'm more optimistic than that quinnox Jan 2014 #77

Civilian control of the military is essential. Adrahil Jan 2014 #82

I'm thinking long term quinnox Jan 2014 #83

then how the hell would you know? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #52

try reading the OP. Do you see the word "history" in the first sentence? quinnox Jan 2014 #55

So you weren't talking about THIS SOTU VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #59

slowly but surely its dawning on you, what my OP says quinnox Jan 2014 #67

No actually it isn't....you don't even realize when you are being made fun of! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #68

next time, try reading the OP before responding, It will make your posts quinnox Jan 2014 #69

Next time try actually watching the SOTU...before forming your misguided opinions... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #71

Of course it doesn't. It has big, unfamiliar words like "history" in it quinnox Jan 2014 #73

back pedals are doing you no favors... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #75

excellent post frwrfpos Jan 2014 #27

thanks! quinnox Jan 2014 #35

You are so wrong! dem in texas Jan 2014 #30

You are wrong. leanforward Jan 2014 #37

ok wow. So you are a proud "nationalistic lberal" quinnox Jan 2014 #39

agree...and I am a BRAT too! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #70

Nationalism isn't something to be proud of. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #86

A-fucking-men!! FiveGoodMen Jan 2014 #88

I'm more ashamed of those that find something wrong with honoring a wounded veteran. TheMathieu Jan 2014 #45

So would you agree with Vanilla's post above that those who don't buy into these military displays quinnox Jan 2014 #50

Is that what I'm missing by having that poster on ignore? 1000words Jan 2014 #60

Nah, I just asked him a question quinnox Jan 2014 #63

True. Welcome to DU. n/t FSogol Jan 2014 #56

"Patriotism is the most foolish of passions and the passion of fools." Schopenhauer Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #57

Not to mention... FiveGoodMen Jan 2014 #89

That order of sacrifice deserves recognition for the individual, and those who share that burden. denbot Jan 2014 #64

A President has to make use of whatever props are available. truedelphi Jan 2014 #72

Yep. Props AND pawns. Union Scribe Jan 2014 #79

+1000 quinnox Jan 2014 #80

I think our troops are worthy to be praised as is peace. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #84