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ProSense

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Thu Jan 30, 2014, 06:58 PM
Jan 2014

"I'll tell you I saw a man talk like an Occupy protester while promoting the same tired, failed economic principles that spawned our yawning inequality in the first place."

...that's nonsense.

Executive order on federal contracting means real action on economic mobility

By Heather C. McGhee and Amy Traub

When it comes to boosting economic opportunity, President Obama isn’t going to wait for Congress anymore...the President made a powerful statement about employers’ obligation to reward work -- starting with his own obligation as the executive in charge of millions of federal contracts.

In a study we released last May, Demos found that nearly two million private sector employees paid with federal tax dollars through contracts, loans, grants, leases and health spending, earn wages too low to support a family. These are people working on behalf of America, doing jobs that we have decided are worthy of public funds—yet they’re being treated in a very un-American way. That’s why federal workers have been walking off the job for the last year...Now the President has taken a major step to lift up hundreds of thousands of those workers. In the process, the president will help families work their way up out of poverty and give new momentum to efforts to raise the minimum wage for everyone laboring too hard for too little in today’s low-pay economy.

The truth is that preferring contractors who pay workers at least $10.10 an hour will have benefits far beyond the workers themselves and their families. When our tax dollars subsidize and promote the creation of low-wage jobs rather than positions that enable workers to afford the necessities of life, there is a ripple effect throughout the economy: poorly-paid workers have less to spend in their communities, and businesses facing less consumer demand in turn hire fewer workers, stunting economic recovery. Low-paid workers also contribute less in taxes and more often need public benefits to provide for their families....From the 1931 Davis-Bacon Act onward, the idea that the federal government should be a model employer – and that employees working on behalf of the public should have strong workplace protections – has an extensive history in our country. The use of executive orders to improve the employment practices of companies granted federal contracts also has a long precedent. Beginning in 1941, successive presidents from both parties signed executive orders aimed at preventing employment discrimination by federal contractors. President Obama’s order raising wages for companies that do business with the federal government follows this successful precedent.

If the cost of federal contracts is a concern, the spotlight should be not on the employees who will finally see a raise to $10.10 an hour, but rather on the over $21 billion a year the government spends on the pay of their bosses, the top executives at contracting firms. After Demos put a number on this subsidy of executive excess in a September report, Congress included a lower maximum pay reimbursement for contractors in its December budget deal. But even the lower cap still provides executives a roughly $234.00 an hour subsidy. When you consider that our current contracting system fuels inequality through both lavish compensation for CEOs and poverty wages for front-line workers, it becomes clear where cost-cutting efforts should be focused.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/economy-budget/196837-executive-order-on-federal-contracting-means-real-action

On the lower cap for maximum pay...

Varied views on new contractor-pay cap

By Josh Hicks

Federal worker unions have applauded a new limit on pay for government contractors, but one industry group has warned that the “arbitrary” cap will cause problems for those who do business with federal agencies.

The restriction, which came as part of the new budget deal Congress and President Obama approved last month, reduced the highest level of contractor compensation from its previous annual limit of $952,000 per individual to $487,000 per individual, a drop of nearly 49 percent.

The Professional Services Council, a group that represents the professional- and technical-services industries, said in a statement on Friday that the rule will “inhibit the ability of companies to attract top talent.”

<...>

The American Federation of Government Employees has argued since at least last year for lowering the limit to $230,700, which would match Vice President Biden’s salary in 2013. The organization included that proposal in its list of 2014 legislative priorities.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2014/01/03/varied-views-on-new-contractor-pay-cap/

Obama pushes to limit federal spending on corporate executive pay
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022927167

SO right on, my dear Will. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2014 #1
Damn the torpedos indeed Fumesucker Jan 2014 #2
Recommend jsr Jan 2014 #3
Super DUrec!!! PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #4
Immensely powerful, thanks. *nt Alamuti Lotus Jan 2014 #5
Very good, Will! LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #6
Bravo! This needed to be written about... KoKo Jan 2014 #7
You're still misunderstanding, Will. MineralMan Jan 2014 #8
It's an attempt to justify the horrible OP. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #10
Yah, well, I'm not reading any more of it. I saw the SOTU. MineralMan Jan 2014 #14
Joining you....He is doubling down on this pathetic screed... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #29
Same here. n/t FSogol Jan 2014 #54
doubling down, back to the wall, hiss hiss Whisp Jan 2014 #217
Will's point is that this young man should NEVER have been sent on 10 deployments Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2014 #67
I believe the young man upted on his own for some of those deployments. kelliekat44 Jan 2014 #69
Yes sadly we have a society that promotes those sacrifices. Propaganda portrays being a fighting man rhett o rick Jan 2014 #112
Good post (per usual) n/t Titonwan Jan 2014 #149
Yes, that was President Obama's point, too. MineralMan Jan 2014 #73
The real problem is his actions don't match his rhetoric. cui bono Jan 2014 #271
but THAT doesn't give ANYONE the right to call him a "tool or prop" He wasn't forced to be there... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #218
and that is it... rtracey Jan 2014 #291
Reminded me of *! pocoloco Jan 2014 #98
Honored him? By having him blown up instead of brought home like the majority has wanted since grahamhgreen Jan 2014 #101
No, you're the one doesn't get it. sulphurdunn Jan 2014 #109
The alternatives are mandatory service for everyone or a draft when it comes Skidmore Jan 2014 #122
War preparation sulphurdunn Jan 2014 #226
LOL, ok! nt Logical Jan 2014 #18
No, to remain a relevant full time anti establishment brand grantcart Jan 2014 #51
Awesome! More third way! Phlem Jan 2014 #86
Still pushing that "endorsement" line? /nt Marr Jan 2014 #125
Are you expecting people to change their minds for political reasons? I know I won't, I haven't sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #229
He understands perfectly. And just for the record. The Iraq War was NOT a mistake sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #110
I fiercely stand with you and Will, Titonwan Jan 2014 #158
Thank you Titonwan. I agree with everything you said. It is cruel to send soldiers into that sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #227
I agree with you,MM. Remsburg was not ignored but honored. Showing him and the horrors of war The Wielding Truth Jan 2014 #209
I'm crying! LordGlenconner Jan 2014 #9
Wait are ProSense Jan 2014 #11
He might imply it, but I'll outright say it. JoeyT Jan 2014 #22
But you didn't say it "outright." ProSense Jan 2014 #23
It is...no doubt about it... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #30
Wait until he throws his full support behind Hillary. ProSense Jan 2014 #38
You are right...THAT will be hilarious....I hope it happens... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #40
The President is dammed if he do ..... mstinamotorcity2 Jan 2014 #80
yes yes yes and double yes.... BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #152
Yeah, President Obama is damned by the ODS profiteering Cha Jan 2014 #212
Why, what do you think will happen? I will tell him what I think then. I will sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #111
"Why would think people might have difficulty remaining consistent? " rhett o rick Jan 2014 #115
That sums it up. bvar22 Jan 2014 #153
It's much easier to follow a strong leader than to think for yourself. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #192
No they did not. Airc using troops at the SOTU used to cause major OUTRAGE on Democratic forums. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #230
deflection, much? grasswire Jan 2014 #42
calling someone a prop denies their independent agency or is an attack on their choices arely staircase Jan 2014 #50
delusional grasswire Jan 2014 #55
that was funny nt arely staircase Jan 2014 #56
+1 a whole bunch.......nt Enthusiast Jan 2014 #102
I second that. Titonwan Jan 2014 #161
Spoken like a true apologist. cui bono Jan 2014 #273
It is sickening. There has been a lot of sickening stuff around here lately. Good to see it out sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #113
There is no attack on Corey, lark Jan 2014 #52
+1 a whole bunch.......nt Enthusiast Jan 2014 #104
You see it too. Titonwan Jan 2014 #164
While I can't say I think he was being used by the president as a prop, JoeyT Jan 2014 #57
Yeah Will better watchout, all of 20 people from the BOG are gonna get him bobduca Jan 2014 #163
Well you know... the can instantaneously win an argument by posting these: cui bono Jan 2014 #274
I used to call different opinions "disgusting attacks" too. LanternWaste Jan 2014 #91
I can't believe you're saying that. ReRe Jan 2014 #278
+1000000 x 1000000 Phlem Jan 2014 #90
When there are no homeless vets, I'll consider your point. grahamhgreen Jan 2014 #103
The Iraq War was NOT FOR OUR FREEDOM! To even imply that is so very wrong. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #123
how many time are gou going to post this? nt arely staircase Jan 2014 #12
hard to look at, isn't it? frylock Jan 2014 #19
it is pretty bad nt arely staircase Jan 2014 #21
if bush pulled the same thing at a SOTU, we'd all be singing kumbaya frylock Jan 2014 #24
if Bush pointed out the consequences of war like Obama did arely staircase Jan 2014 #26
A bit different when it was BUSH that started the war! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #32
Until it sinks in I hope. zeemike Jan 2014 #35
Til the war is over and the war crimes prosecuted, I hope. grahamhgreen Jan 2014 #105
How many times are you going to drag right wing sites like Breitbart to DU? I thought sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #237
to attack them? arely staircase Jan 2014 #240
You were calling out Breitbart? I and many others thought you were calling out a DUer! sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #242
breitbart, fox, frerepublic etc who are saying the president is using a wounded vet as a prop arely staircase Jan 2014 #243
I wouldn't know, I don't frequent such vile Right Wing garbage. Rep Peter King and Sarah Palin agree sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #245
the twisted freaks attacking the president for honoring a wounded vet arely staircase Jan 2014 #246
As I said, I give no time, hits, credit to Right Wing garbage sites, why are you doing so? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #247
then don't worry about it arely staircase Jan 2014 #248
Why is the entire Republican establishment of morons on the same side as the President on sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #251
put me on ignore arely staircase Jan 2014 #252
I don't put anyone on ignore. I can stand up for what I believe in and have no fear of defending my sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #262
I don't think Puglover Jan 2014 #305
Lol, I know what you are talking about, it is one of the funniest demands sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #306
You know we can infer who you are talking about right? cui bono Jan 2014 #276
Maybe he just wanted to give you the opportunity to post another not so subtle name calling OP cui bono Jan 2014 #275
You're the author just post the whole thing......or..... snooper2 Jan 2014 #13
CLICKS FOR truthout(sic). Cha Jan 2014 #211
A Fist Full of Clickies Whisp Jan 2014 #311
good catch! Whisp Jan 2014 #219
Hammer kentuck Jan 2014 #15
Everything is a nail when all you have is just a hammer! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #34
Mmmm kjones Jan 2014 #16
Thanks for the link. ctsnowman Jan 2014 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author tridim Jan 2014 #20
He's no Nance Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #28
Leave her alone. She has nothing to apologize for. n/t QC Jan 2014 #48
Of course she doesn't. Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #49
YOU are an example of ODS Skittles Jan 2014 #131
You're the poopie head Skittles. tridim Jan 2014 #133
I VOTED FOR HIM TWICE TOO Skittles Jan 2014 #135
Great! Thanks for the support. tridim Jan 2014 #136
well it was a no-brainer both times, right? Skittles Jan 2014 #137
Not nearly as addictive as Titonwan Jan 2014 #167
Well said. Politicians love to get all weepy over soldiers and corpses they sent to kill and die. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #25
Your ODS is showing Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #27
Ahhh, so he isn't hyping your view I assume? nt Logical Jan 2014 #31
no, he's whining because the President didn't use the soldier as a prop, because geek tragedy Jan 2014 #63
So now you have reduced yourself to mocking the mother of a dead soldier? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #249
Cindy Sheehan is a LaRouchie, so she deserves to be mocked. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #250
Cindy Sheehan is the mother of a dead soldier who died in Bush's war. You are revealing sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #255
She is a fucking insane LaRouchie. Her being the mother of a dead soldier geek tragedy Jan 2014 #256
She is a grieving mother, a victim of Bush's lies. I fucking don't CARE what her politics are. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #258
Sigh. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #263
Cindy Sheehan also has a very moving story, maybe you should read it sometime. So does every sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #266
When DU still believed that unjust wars and liars who promoted them should be called out Generic Other Jan 2014 #293
you should really quit heaven05 Jan 2014 #299
the site bobduca Jan 2014 #307
Thank you Capt. Obvious...as usual you see right through it all! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #36
Cap is being facetious, it's his or her schtick whenever Will is criticized. great white snark Jan 2014 #64
Well that's different then....he isn't really Capt Obvious....he is Capt. Obtuse! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #66
Oh, he's Obvious alright. JTFrog Jan 2014 #75
"I guess this time his "facetiousness" is epic fail!" Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #78
Tee hee kee! Titonwan Jan 2014 #168
"whenever Will is criticized" Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #79
rec! SammyWinstonJack Jan 2014 #33
I'm in 100% agreement. SamKnause Jan 2014 #37
Nice that this time, you used Sgt. Remsburg's name...but here's a better-written article about msanthrope Jan 2014 #39
Excellent, Will Oilwellian Jan 2014 #41
k/r - I think I love you. 840high Jan 2014 #43
You never loved him! Rex Jan 2014 #44
they're the ones with ODS Skittles Jan 2014 #134
Just be thankful you can think for yourself. Rex Jan 2014 #231
Obama himself would find them embarrassing Skittles Jan 2014 #233
I agree and more over he would truly be embarrassed by Rex Jan 2014 #260
LOL Skittles Jan 2014 #264
I am pretty certain that he would. Puglover Jan 2014 #297
President Obama "made me sick in my soul" geek tragedy Jan 2014 #45
he made my eyes rain! nt arely staircase Jan 2014 #53
Okay. I'm sorry. I was about to get all disgusted with this thread and then I saw your post Number23 Jan 2014 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author tridim Jan 2014 #59
what matters isn't the fact that President Obama vigorously defended geek tragedy Jan 2014 #61
I bet $10 million ODS $$$ you're right, geek. Cha Jan 2014 #119
did you see that Fox News plagiarized Will's post? nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #121
And, why wouldn't they.. it's faux enough Cha Jan 2014 #140
Nailed it, Cha! sheshe2 Jan 2014 #228
Forget the 'propping' now we are into the 'profiting': A Fistful of Clickies: Whisp Jan 2014 #303
Beautiful post, Cha! sheshe2 Jan 2014 #172
Thank you, sheshe~ Cha Jan 2014 #208
I wonder if that sick soul will get well. Whisp Jan 2014 #259
+1 nt Adrahil Jan 2014 #290
The people who NEED to read this, the whores who occupy Congress and Washington DainBramaged Jan 2014 #46
Ah Will, you still fight the good fight. Autumn Jan 2014 #47
Ayuh, I know Titonwan Jan 2014 #173
Shame you're delving into fiction now and doubling down on the hatred is deplorable. great white snark Jan 2014 #58
Again! Phlem Jan 2014 #85
Despite the Teapublicans assertions to the contrary lapfog_1 Jan 2014 #60
Thank you for being rational, lapfog. Your post deserves its own OP, imo. Hekate Jan 2014 #76
+1, only one using him as a prop is OP joshcryer Jan 2014 #99
bravo.... mike_c Jan 2014 #62
You have your opinion, I have mine which is radically different. I won't insult you but tell you I uppityperson Jan 2014 #65
LOL DevonRex Jan 2014 #68
It's been nice the past few years to see you getting back -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2014 #70
I second this BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #89
Ha ha. Superb, brah. I'm there, too. Titonwan Jan 2014 #182
I agree with you Will. Keep up the good fight. Owl Jan 2014 #71
The Hater Honeypot to attract the sordid flies. nt BumRushDaShow Jan 2014 #72
What ever. Phlem Jan 2014 #84
Bwahaha! BumRushDaShow Jan 2014 #160
What's so funny, Phlem Jan 2014 #180
Take these BumRushDaShow Jan 2014 #292
the differences are there to get you to vote for the similarites MisterP Jan 2014 #74
Some folks are just plain addicted to the sugar high 1000words Jan 2014 #77
They must be frustrated because it isn't working anymore. n/t sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #239
For me, it's become a comedy act 1000words Jan 2014 #241
Great Job Will. Phlem Jan 2014 #81
recommend frwrfpos Jan 2014 #82
so when the last combat troops are withdrawn onethatcares Jan 2014 #83
Both were wars fought for political PR and doomed to fail. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #88
The illusion has been broken Ichingcarpenter Jan 2014 #87
Word! That's precisely what I though when I saw the OP BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #92
agreed G_j Jan 2014 #93
New York was made to be frack free.... PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #95
How completely awesome! Enthusiast Jan 2014 #107
bravo G_j Jan 2014 #118
SSSSSSssscooooorrrre! BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #179
After fifty tours in America polynomial Jan 2014 #94
"A room filled with the worst people in the country". alsame Jan 2014 #96
HE VOLUNTEERED. secondwind Jan 2014 #97
Why don't you grahamhgreen Jan 2014 #106
Ah yes! Your faux outrage... Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #108
Yeah, who's using SFC Cory Remsburg as Cha Jan 2014 #139
this is disgusting Skittles Jan 2014 #142
I thought the exact same thing about the OP... Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #234
you're missing the whole point Skittles Jan 2014 #235
No I'm not missing the point... Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #254
AGAIN Skittles Jan 2014 #265
Bullshit. Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #267
done here Skittles Jan 2014 #269
Good enough... Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #270
what exactly is Will's "flawed agenda", pray tell? nt grasswire Jan 2014 #277
I verge on agreeing re:Pitt. Over time, political opinion writers seem to just write to their KittyWampus Jan 2014 #289
Hey, Fox News has picked up your talking point, Will & Co. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #114
I thought you trashed this thread? nt Union Scribe Jan 2014 #138
Hitler liked dogs Skittles Jan 2014 #143
No, just pointing out the fact that Fox News reacted the same geek tragedy Jan 2014 #146
who the fuck cares what Fox News thinks??? Skittles Jan 2014 #148
eh? Whisp Jan 2014 #261
Kee! Titonwan Jan 2014 #187
it is desperation to justify the indefensible Skittles Jan 2014 #223
Fuck fox and anyone spewing their fucking ignorant Cha Jan 2014 #210
That's what a lot of people on here do. But they direct them at other DUers. cui bono Jan 2014 #279
William Rivers Pitt Crewleader Jan 2014 #116
When Crew speaks the rest of DU ought to listen Generic Other Jan 2014 #313
Thanks Friend Crewleader Jan 2014 #316
The only reason I would have the draft is because that would end the war tommorrow. marble falls Jan 2014 #117
Of course it would! Titonwan Jan 2014 #190
History shows it never has and rather than working to get congress to pass an equitable draft none uppityperson Jan 2014 #197
And now a word ProSense Jan 2014 #120
Also, please ProSense Jan 2014 #124
Nailed it! n/t sheshe2 Jan 2014 #225
Yes Agony Jan 2014 #126
No ProSense Jan 2014 #129
nibbling at the edges while an Apollo Program is required Agony Jan 2014 #170
Yup, ProSense Jan 2014 #177
There you go again changing the subject... Agony Jan 2014 #186
How is it ProSense Jan 2014 #188
THANK YOU Skittles Jan 2014 #127
The loyalists dont recognize that rhetoric is a tool used by politicians in speeches. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #128
The haters don't recognize that the OP is hyperbolic silliness. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #132
I'm trying to decide whether to tweet this or not. DevonRex Jan 2014 #191
The haters are too busy spewing hatred toward whistle-blowers. Asking for rhett o rick Jan 2014 #195
Fuck Snowden. ProSense Jan 2014 #196
I think that pretty well sums up your complete intellectual argument. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #199
As a vet I am offended. Titonwan Jan 2014 #194
TPP is political leveraging with Asia and Russia. joshcryer Jan 2014 #281
I agree with your post and hope you didnt think I was calling you a loyalist. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #295
That's the crux of it... KoKo Jan 2014 #300
"those vets that line our streets in the rain begging for food" ... L0oniX Jan 2014 #314
I am glad that I skipped the speech. AngryAmish Jan 2014 #130
Thanks, Will, for eloquently standing up for DU values radiclib Jan 2014 #141
When did "DU values" become hate and hyperbole? n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #144
Nice try radiclib Jan 2014 #150
Oh, ProSense Jan 2014 #154
Of course. He voted for him, so he can't criticize him. radiclib Jan 2014 #156
Sure, he can ProSense Jan 2014 #159
Exact quote: radiclib Jan 2014 #162
LOL! ProSense Jan 2014 #165
When did you join again? that date. bobduca Jan 2014 #169
"Member since: Fri Jan 6, 2012, 08:25 PM " ProSense Jan 2014 #171
Aww thanks you are so welcoming and pleasant when not working your job! bobduca Jan 2014 #174
Why are you talking to yourself? ProSense Jan 2014 #178
because i keep you on full ignore and it becomes difficult sometimes bobduca Jan 2014 #181
LOL! ProSense Jan 2014 #185
When the conservatives crawled into our tent. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #198
So you admit this is about hate and hyperbole? ProSense Jan 2014 #203
The gains? Oh that's right corporate profits are at an all time high. The Corporatists rhett o rick Jan 2014 #236
Mostly since you showed up Generic Other Jan 2014 #296
You know what ProSense Jan 2014 #298
That is exactly what you expect of us Generic Other Jan 2014 #310
they will care again in three years Skittles Jan 2014 #147
In "three years," it will be ProSense Jan 2014 #151
Until she gets tossed under the bus... sheshe2 Jan 2014 #175
As a vet Titonwan Jan 2014 #145
DURec. bvar22 Jan 2014 #155
Another Kick...for a well written article that must Resonate KoKo Jan 2014 #157
Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #183
+10000 bobduca Jan 2014 #184
Thanks bobduca Phlem Jan 2014 #205
Sorry bob... sheshe2 Jan 2014 #238
So what? cui bono Jan 2014 #282
I can still see it, bvar22 Jan 2014 #302
Yup Titonwan Jan 2014 #200
Welcome to DU Phlem Jan 2014 #204
I've been a member for a long time, brah. Titonwan Jan 2014 #206
Nice! Phlem Jan 2014 #207
Pathetic attempt at a recovery Whisp Jan 2014 #166
Kick bobduca Jan 2014 #176
It seems that the posts in this thread have a common theme. blue neen Jan 2014 #189
Close. Phlem Jan 2014 #193
Oh? I didn't realize there were "sides". blue neen Jan 2014 #213
OK then, Phlem Jan 2014 #216
+1 WilliamPitt Jan 2014 #215
I think I am tired of blind worship Skittles Jan 2014 #232
One worships gods not presidents Generic Other Jan 2014 #312
Apparently you have not been assimilated. L0oniX Jan 2014 #317
Beatles' "Nowhere Man:" blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #201
Funny you should say that. WilliamPitt Jan 2014 #214
"Yup. Here we go. Again." Agony Jan 2014 #220
Oh give me a break. Phlem Jan 2014 #221
This message was self-deleted by its author WilliamPitt Jan 2014 #224
. ProSense Jan 2014 #284
From your link Titonwan Jan 2014 #222
This message was self-deleted by its author blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #202
I'm not sure what you want of him. davidthegnome Jan 2014 #244
You know, I really liked what you had to say! akbacchus_BC Jan 2014 #257
Mr. Pitt! I have no idea what you want President Obama to do akbacchus_BC Jan 2014 #253
Can't. Be. Fixed. DeSwiss Jan 2014 #268
And it goes all the way to the core. LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #272
Locust here, your article is pretty embarrassing. joshcryer Jan 2014 #280
"Embarrassing" isn't on the radar for the kewl opportunist. ProSense Jan 2014 #285
your words and delivery heaven05 Jan 2014 #283
...... Hotler Jan 2014 #286
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #287
K&R.... daleanime Jan 2014 #288
My husband and I always groan Puglover Jan 2014 #294
"Just a spoonful of sugar... polichick Jan 2014 #301
His tenth deployment. We all know this is happening mountain grammy Jan 2014 #304
Up WilliamPitt Jan 2014 #308
We luv you anyway. L0oniX Jan 2014 #315
Kick for a great article. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #309
Crewleader's kick Crewleader Jan 2014 #318
K&R woo me with science Jan 2014 #319
Hey, I wanted to K&R. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #320
kick woo me with science Feb 2014 #321
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