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Hugabear

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Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:46 PM Mar 2012

In Florida - "Stand Your Ground" = legalized murder [View all]

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http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-19/news/os-trayvon-martin-law-beth-kassab-032012-20120319_1_castle-doctrine-unarmed-man-law-enforcement

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I haven't heard of any fatal disputes over the grocery check-out line, but in 2010 an unarmed man was shot and killed at a park near Tampa in a dispute over skateboarding rules. The victim's 10-year-old daughter watched her father die. A judge is currently considering whether the shooter merely stood his ground.

In 2008, a 15-year-old boy was killed during a shootout between two gangs in Tallahassee. Nobody was held accountable for the crime because a judge, citing the law, dismissed the charges.

And in January, a former Broward County sheriff's deputy shot and wounded a homeless man inside a Häagen-Dazs ice cream shop in Miami Lakes. He said the man was threatening him and his family. Police said charges were unlikely in that case as well.


Many of us warned this would happen. But nooooo, the gun-lovers argued. Guns aren't the problem. Law-abiding people aren't the problem. I remember the debate here on DU, with the usual suspects arguing in favor of turning Florida's streets into the Wild West.

Well guess what. George Zimmerman is still considered a "law abiding citizen" - even though he murdered someone in cold blood.
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Barbaric, wild west bullshit. n/t Ed Suspicious Mar 2012 #1
so he should not have stood his ground? arely staircase Mar 2012 #2
Sweet Jesus, I finally have to chime in. flvegan Mar 2012 #3
So people are not being killed needlessly because of this law? Hugabear Mar 2012 #4
You stated that "stand your ground" was "legalized murder" flvegan Mar 2012 #10
What the hell do you think is going on with the Zimmerman case? Hugabear Mar 2012 #22
Due process. flvegan Mar 2012 #26
How is it not legalized murder? n/t arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #5
Better question...how is it? flvegan Mar 2012 #11
Because some gun-culture members think it gives them licence to kill. Hoyt Mar 2012 #14
Perception is a funny thing. n/t flvegan Mar 2012 #17
Man stalks young lad in his truck and then arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #15
You should re-read my response. flvegan Mar 2012 #18
I won't dignify that response, thanks. n/t arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #21
Meaning...what? flvegan Mar 2012 #28
Florida law itself gives lie to your statement.. X_Digger Mar 2012 #6
What the law says and what really happens are two different things Hugabear Mar 2012 #9
Then that's an enforcement problem, not a law problem. X_Digger Mar 2012 #13
Call it whatever you want, laws this easily misinterpreted, need to be changed. Hoyt Mar 2012 #24
Duty to Retreat is not coming back. X_Digger Mar 2012 #27
As the law is being applied by law enforcement, arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #12
Judge Lewis (the judge in the gang case) also skipped that section (776.041) X_Digger Mar 2012 #19
It sounds like one bloody mess! arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #23
Yep, Lewis was soundly excoriated for the decision. X_Digger Mar 2012 #25
It's license to shoot anyone who makes you upset. nt MrScorpio Mar 2012 #7
Oh it's legalized murder alright. That law is a licsence to kill anone anywhere... 1620rock Mar 2012 #8
That is the only thing I can deduce as well. n/t arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #16
Unfortunately many "progressive" gunners joined NRA & RW extremists to propel this legislation... hlthe2b Mar 2012 #20
Locking: There is a group for exactly this topic hootinholler Mar 2012 #29
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