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77. By "some people" do you mean the man in your avatar?

Reply to treestar (Reply #44)

Sun Feb 9, 2014, 03:15 AM

Feb 2014

Joe Biden had some very wise words about the use of metadata.

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Because Glenn Greenwald is who he is, NSA spying is fine [View all] MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 OP

I don't think people are saying that. iandhr Feb 2014 #1

The implication is clear. Bonobo Feb 2014 #2

I trust his reporting on the NSA joshcryer Feb 2014 #3

Release the unredacted files and confirm the worst accusations of treason and carelessness? nt Bonobo Feb 2014 #4

or trickle it out over time joshcryer Feb 2014 #5

No, I do not think Manning committed treason and was careless. Bonobo Feb 2014 #6

They would be wrong. joshcryer Feb 2014 #10

Damned if you do, damned if you don't? Either he's taking too long, or he's just being careless? nt Electric Monk Feb 2014 #7

That was bonobo characterizing it as careless. joshcryer Feb 2014 #9

No, that was Bonobo explaining that other people have characterized it as careless. nt Bonobo Feb 2014 #12

I assumed by "confirm the worst accusations" you believed that. joshcryer Feb 2014 #13

Odd assumption. nt Bonobo Feb 2014 #14

I would've said "trigger" not "confirm." joshcryer Feb 2014 #15

Ever hear the phrase "confirm in some people's minds"? nt Bonobo Feb 2014 #17

Nope. joshcryer Feb 2014 #18

Wow, did this ever get off topic :O Electric Monk Feb 2014 #19

Not really. joshcryer Feb 2014 #22

Wait. Chelsea Manning is not a journalist and Wikileaks is still releasing documents REDACTED Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #52

Wikileaks posted the entire unradacated cable database joshcryer Feb 2014 #74

No they did not. The Guardian posted the key to the unredacted docs but Wikileaks Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #75

No they didn't, yes they did? joshcryer Feb 2014 #78

You can't have it both ways. sendero Feb 2014 #98

"Backing down"? Bonobo Feb 2014 #31

'confirm' is only read that way to me joshcryer Feb 2014 #73

Wait wut? I missed that big moment when all of them were released. Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #49

every cable was released joshcryer Feb 2014 #72

Should Gellman release all the files that he has? Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #76

Yes. joshcryer Feb 2014 #79

Nobody who conceives of society in a realistic manner thinks anybody's a saint TransitJohn Feb 2014 #42

What rot logic. As if the lawyers for the ACLU had a "friendhship" with the Skokie Nazis. Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #65

Yep. RobertEarl Feb 2014 #8

Up is down and down is up. ReRe Feb 2014 #11

mock 3rd way all you want. 8 years of Clinton was demonstrably better than 12 years of Reagan Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #16

You should put that in your profile. nt Electric Monk Feb 2014 #20

there's a lot you should put in your profile Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #21

tempt me more, why don't you... Electric Monk Feb 2014 #23

That's certainly damning with faint praise Fumesucker Feb 2014 #24

yes it is. but it is realistic fact that winning with 3rd way was better Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #25

It's really a sad commentary that twenty years later we are no wiser and can do no better Fumesucker Feb 2014 #26

the last time a rather liberal Dem got the nomination, he was steamrolled in 1988 Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #27

I wonder where you get that attitude. Apparently you think you're in some inner circles. Please... Electric Monk Feb 2014 #28

It's really too bad that Democrats need the liberals to win elections Fumesucker Feb 2014 #30

It is equally sad when they say Al Gore is not a liberal Rex Feb 2014 #51

Or in Congress, or state and local offices treestar Feb 2014 #45

Yeah and our first liberal POTUS Al Gore was ran out of office Rex Feb 2014 #50

D does not have to stand for defeatist Armstead Feb 2014 #92

gee, that's too bad, but it does not stop Republicans treestar Feb 2014 #46

Yeah and look at the Reagan Dems...still stuck in the same mode. Rex Feb 2014 #53

It was? MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #41

Demonstrably better for whom? TransitJohn Feb 2014 #43

Well in all fairness Rex Feb 2014 #54

Yeah, a broken leg is better than two broken legs. progressoid Feb 2014 #47

In the same way that 8lbs of rubbish is demonstrably better than 12lbs of garbage. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #70

What simplistic bullshit leftynyc Feb 2014 #29

Why is "narcissistic" ALWAYS the place that people go to when they want to undermine a person Bonobo Feb 2014 #32

Only a malcontended narcisssist would think that the status quo is not perfect Fumesucker Feb 2014 #33

The best of all possible worlds! MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #40

I call him a narcissist because that's what he is leftynyc Feb 2014 #35

Truly your ability to look within people's minds to discern their inner motives is impressive! nt Bonobo Feb 2014 #36

Thank you leftynyc Feb 2014 #37

I disagree. People are actually complex as hell. nt Bonobo Feb 2014 #38

Nah - not really leftynyc Feb 2014 #39

As it is of no consequence whatsoever whether or not Greenwald is a "narcissist" sibelian Feb 2014 #83

Living his life out loud or just living his life out, which bothers you the most? Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #91

Living life out loud leftynyc Feb 2014 #97

As the accusation of "narcissist" cannot be disproved of ANYONE acting in ANY public capacity sibelian Feb 2014 #80

You're wrong leftynyc Feb 2014 #96

It's from a stock of diversionary tactics. sibelian Feb 2014 #81

Greenwald and Snowden communicate with each other every day. Snowden is now on the board Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #69

I've been studying why I find your stuff to be so damn funny. reusrename Feb 2014 #34

No, it is more of a case of his exaggerating it treestar Feb 2014 #44

By "some people" do you mean the man in your avatar? ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #77

Joe Biden (heard of him?) 2006: Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #93

It makes Keystone XL okay, and the TPP even better!!! Autumn Feb 2014 #48

... Rex Feb 2014 #55

Wouldn't it be great if Greenwald loved Obama? Autumn Feb 2014 #59

Yes if GG loved Obama, his faithful would be calling on the dismantling of the NSA. Rex Feb 2014 #60

I'm going to send Glen a picture of Obama without a shirt, coming out of the ocean, in his Autumn Feb 2014 #62

I dunno...how do you beat Pootie Poot when it comes to manly chest Rex Feb 2014 #63

That wins, hands down Autumn Feb 2014 #64

Look at the edit! Rex Feb 2014 #66

Words fail me Autumn Feb 2014 #67

No wonder we can't find any unicorns! They are all stuck in NK! Rex Feb 2014 #68

I love the NSA frwrfpos Feb 2014 #56

Or, for that matter, Ed Snowden is who he is... Hippo_Tron Feb 2014 #57

It seems to be more like... Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #58

I love the way binary thinkers glom onto a couple of ideas and Skidmore Feb 2014 #61

As intended. nt Bobbie Jo Feb 2014 #71

Thank you for pointing out binary thinking is what Third Way Manny is mocking with this satirical OP Fumesucker Feb 2014 #82

Binary thinkers come in all flavors. Skidmore Feb 2014 #84

Yes, fillintheblank like emoprog, firebagger, leftbagger, purist, progtopian, malcontent and so on Fumesucker Feb 2014 #85

Flip side being fillintheblank? Skidmore Feb 2014 #86

Everyone is the hero in their own story Fumesucker Feb 2014 #87

All I am certain of is that I get sick of Skidmore Feb 2014 #88

No one expects to convince anyone on "the other side" of the argument Fumesucker Feb 2014 #89

I'm sorry Manny Caretha Feb 2014 #90

The OP does not even mention Snowden, but you had some material and you Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #94

Thanks Caretha Feb 2014 #95