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20. Huge thermal plant opens as solar industry grows
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:21 PM
Feb 2014

Originally posted here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024493290

Huge thermal plant opens as solar industry grows

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The Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System, sprawling across roughly 5 square miles of federal land near the California-Nevada border, formally opens Thursday after years of regulatory and legal tangles ranging from relocating protected tortoises to assessing the impact on Mojave milkweed and other plants.

The $2.2 billion complex of three generating units, owned by NRG Energy Inc., Google Inc. and BrightSource Energy, can produce nearly 400 megawatts — enough power for 140,000 homes. It began making electricity last year.

Larger projects are on the way, but for now, Ivanpah (EYE'-ven-pah) is being described as a marker for the United States' emerging solar industry....President Barack Obama has mounted a second-term drive to combat climate change, proposing first-ever limits on carbon pollution from new and existing power plants. His plan aims to help move the U.S. from a coal-dependent past into a future fired by wind and solar power, nuclear energy and natural gas.

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In 2012, the federal government established 17 "solar energy zones" in an attempt to direct development to land it has identified as having fewer wildlife and natural-resource obstacles. The zones comprise about 450 square miles in six states — California, Nevada, Arizona, Utah, Colorado and New Mexico.

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/viewart/20140213/NEWS04/140213003/Huge-thermal-plant-opens-solar-industry-grows-


90 Percent Of States Added Solar Jobs In 2013, Fueled By Growth In The South

By Katie Valentine

California leads the way in solar jobs, but 18 other states more than doubled their solar jobs in 2013, according to a new map...published by the Solar Foundation as part of their National Solar Jobs Census, found that Southern states were some of the most active in creating solar jobs in 2012 — new solar jobs in North Carolina, Georgia, Texas and Louisiana accounted for nearly a quarter of the total new solar jobs added last year. In Georgia and North Carolina, solar installation jobs doubled, bringing their respective totals to 2,600 and 3,100. Both these states’ solar and renewable laws were in the news in 2013: last year in North Carolina, one lawmaker tried to repeal the state’s Renewable Energy Standard, which mandates North Carolina utilities to get 12.5 percent of their electricity from renewable sources by 2021. That attempt failed after North Carolina’s swine industry teamed up with environmentalists in support of the RES.

And last summer in Georgia, the Atlanta Tea Party teamed up with state environmental groups to call on the state’s largest utility to expand its development of solar energy. In July, the Georgia Public Service Commission voted in favor of a plan that requires Georgia Power Co. to up its solar capacity by 525 megawatts by the end of 2016.

But despite the growth in the South, the report found California to be the number one state for solar employment, supporting a total of 47,223 solar jobs— a third of the nation’s total — and adding 3,523 solar jobs since 2012. California has several policies and programs that are friendly to solar and other renewables, including Go Solar California, which has a goal of installing 3,000 megawatts of solar energy on homes and businesses by the end of 2016. Solar employers in California expect the solar job market to continue to grow in 2014, predicting 10,500 new jobs in the state this year.

Overall, the U.S. added more than 23,600 solar jobs last year, bringing the total to 142,698 solar workers, according to the Solar Foundation.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/02/11/3279221/states-solar-jobs-2013/




We are One with the Infinite Sun Berlum Feb 2014 #1
aho G_j Feb 2014 #3
K&R! There should be hundreds more in the pipeline (no pun intended). Enthusiast Feb 2014 #2
Drove by it last year and it is truly amazing to see! zappaman Feb 2014 #4
We're seriously thinking about panelling our roof......we've got great south and west roof space for a kennedy Feb 2014 #5
Geez! Who has the Windex contract to clean all those mirrors????? benld74 Feb 2014 #6
Ray Nagan? Cheviteau Feb 2014 #39
Great job security though. RGinNJ Feb 2014 #7
Wonderful! Safe and uses land that is not useful to us for other purposes. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #8
Why does land have to be useful? hunter Feb 2014 #24
Where would people park? Vinnie From Indy Feb 2014 #28
Under the shade created by the pole-mounted panels LondonReign2 Feb 2014 #31
That's a great idea. In the South, we really need some shade to park in. Our cars loudsue Feb 2014 #57
All ready in existence in Germany. pangaia Feb 2014 #89
We've already got quite a few parking lot solar instalations in our community. hunter Feb 2014 #40
Picture at the link awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #59
Have u been out West? EX500rider Feb 2014 #32
Yeah, I've wandered it, quite a bit actually. hunter Feb 2014 #35
The entire US could be run off a relatively small area of desert.. EX500rider Feb 2014 #43
I don't want energy to run the entire US as it is. hunter Feb 2014 #45
Yes we all can't wait to go back to being hunter-gather's.. n/t EX500rider Feb 2014 #46
Um, okay. hunter Feb 2014 #47
Well maybe i mis-understood you.. EX500rider Feb 2014 #49
Lowerng energy use, expanding wilderness, controlling our own reproduction, is not "primitive." hunter Feb 2014 #50
Well in another 1,000 years i think we will be there... n/t EX500rider Feb 2014 #66
Like any number of Star Trek episodes cindge Feb 2014 #82
The earth of Star Trek TOS and TNG *was* the techno-utopia. hunter Feb 2014 #92
You should be pimping FUSION POWER snooper2 Feb 2014 #56
I think cheap fusion would be an environmental catastrophe worse than coal. hunter Feb 2014 #63
that is nice and all but not going to happen...You'll just have to go off-the-grid by yourself snooper2 Feb 2014 #64
Sounds like a fairly Luddite position. EX500rider Feb 2014 #98
Yes horrible it would be...lights and running water for everybody...n/t EX500rider Feb 2014 #100
What's keeping people from lights and running water now? hunter Feb 2014 #102
It's because of mismanagement and corruption. EX500rider Feb 2014 #103
Solar and wind powered water pumps are as simple as it gets. hunter Feb 2014 #104
That's a nice start,,, EX500rider Feb 2014 #107
How fair is it that many have this while others starve? hunter Feb 2014 #108
"My only agreement in your list is clothes dryers and refrigerators." EX500rider Feb 2014 #109
That's an easy thing to power with solar and wind too. hunter Feb 2014 #110
Have you been in Florida? Plenty of sun, but corrupt, disgusting politicians like gov. Rick Scott AikidoSoul Feb 2014 #97
Yes i live here thanks for the update. n/t EX500rider Feb 2014 #99
++++ swilton Feb 2014 #76
I am sure the EiR did not use *useless* anywhere in the report. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #67
What happens when it gets dark? Bandit Feb 2014 #9
How do transistor radios work when you close the window? nt valerief Feb 2014 #12
Not a great analogy. former9thward Feb 2014 #13
The better analogy is how do transistor radios work when you stop broadcasting. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #48
"The main advantage of this type of solar plant is that it’s easy to store energy.." G_j Feb 2014 #14
Thermal mass. DeSwiss Feb 2014 #16
Molten salt is one answer solarhydrocan Feb 2014 #22
Brilliant Mr. Mike.... diverdownjt Feb 2014 #55
Everything is the same except there is no light for about 12 hours XRubicon Feb 2014 #72
it IS beautiful! Whisp Feb 2014 #10
cant wait until all those mirrors iamthebandfanman Feb 2014 #11
+1 Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #44
Probably not. MrModerate Feb 2014 #74
When it's dark . . . OldRedneck Feb 2014 #15
I believe that they have now found ways to store solar energy for short periods of time davidpdx Feb 2014 #94
They should put solar panel . . . aggiesal Feb 2014 #17
The Germans have already done this! So much for American Exceptionalism! Dustlawyer Feb 2014 #30
That's a great idea! calimary Feb 2014 #34
And covering every parking lot Politicub Feb 2014 #37
Seems overly complicated...why use water? dpbrown Feb 2014 #18
Mirror cleaning OnlinePoker Feb 2014 #19
Huge thermal plant opens as solar industry grows ProSense Feb 2014 #20
I just have one question, thought. Does this generate more or less electrical power than TrollBuster9090 Feb 2014 #21
Concentrating solar is FAR better. AtheistCrusader Feb 2014 #27
As it turns out . . . MrModerate Feb 2014 #75
Drove by this a few weeks ago Egnever Feb 2014 #23
AWESOME! Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #25
FOR NOW. AtheistCrusader Feb 2014 #26
Conveniently located near a rare earth mine. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #29
Amazing what happens when corporate whores are driven into splinter party status Jack Rabbit Feb 2014 #33
I don't get your point. This plant is owned by corporations. El_Johns Feb 2014 #53
Your critique would make more sense if you assume that I want a Communist revolution Jack Rabbit Feb 2014 #73
There was no critique. I simply didn't understand what you meant by: El_Johns Feb 2014 #78
Oh, that's what you want to know Jack Rabbit Feb 2014 #91
I love you, Jack Rabbit. <3 love_katz Feb 2014 #101
This is so cool! Politicub Feb 2014 #36
Whoooo hoooo and its about time! marble falls Feb 2014 #38
From what I am hearing Keefer Feb 2014 #41
that's a problem G_j Feb 2014 #42
Damn you, for bringing the downside nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #68
Nice cat avatar XRubicon Feb 2014 #88
Magnificent! Just purely magnificent! Firebrand Gary Feb 2014 #51
Cool! That said, I'd prefer more decentralized generation Recursion Feb 2014 #52
Just doing some jokey non-linear thinking kjones Feb 2014 #54
Too much stupid... must resist.. blacking out now... I am the sole survivor of this thread... XRubicon Feb 2014 #80
Well, I do have a peculiar taste in humor. nt kjones Feb 2014 #95
World’s Largest Solar Thermal Plant Uses As Much Water As Two Holes On Nearby Golf Course ProSense Feb 2014 #58
Parakeet nightmare Aldo Leopold Feb 2014 #60
Good god, sounds like a bunch of binary thinking conservatives in here. Thor_MN Feb 2014 #61
Not only in the middle od the night. Edim Feb 2014 #62
I'm sure the people that decided to spend the money to build this had no clue. Thor_MN Feb 2014 #69
I agree that it doesn't have to. Edim Feb 2014 #70
If you are concerned about the costs, buy yourself a generator. Thor_MN Feb 2014 #71
ya, I seen this driving to vegas last year ujs1500 Feb 2014 #65
Is there any way they can do this without using water? Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #77
70% of earths surface is water... XRubicon Feb 2014 #79
Yeah. Okay. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #81
We are literally surrounded by water XRubicon Feb 2014 #83
What? Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #85
Ok sorry, I thought you were one of the luddites.. XRubicon Feb 2014 #86
Oh noes…Won't somebody think about the little nuke's protons and neutrons... Tikki Feb 2014 #84
Awesome debunkthis Feb 2014 #87
It's a bird killer. I hate bird killers! jeanliberty90 Feb 2014 #90
More! Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #93
"Creating"? Helen Borg Feb 2014 #96
Thanks for posting, I never even knew about this WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2014 #105
I've been following this since the project was in the planning stages. NaturalHigh Feb 2014 #106
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