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BlueStreak

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145. Either the forum follows rules or it doesn't. The system is not there to address every sensitivity

Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:40 PM

Feb 2014

It seems to me the DU terms are reasonable and not too difficult to interpret, And in this case, I agree with anyone who says it was a bod joke at a bad time, but people just need to get a little thicker skin. This is surely not the greatest offense every committed at DU. I would have voted to keep it even though I think it should not have been posted.

And here's a question for the outraged OPer. Did you send a private message to the person who offended you and politely ask if he would self-delete? You know, a polite request can go a long way in situations like this. If somebody politely asked me to delete or reword something like that, I would. And if they alerted on me, then f*** them.

Stop wasting our time if you didn't even ask the poster to edit the comment.

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I don't think I've ever been as disgusted at a DU jury as I am right now [View all] abq e streeter Feb 2014 OP

it's just another commentary pothos Feb 2014 #1

We ,as progressives are supposed to be better than that abq e streeter Feb 2014 #2

I remember when a couple of guys outed themselves as rapists roguevalley Feb 2014 #16

"I'm a rapist and I'm sorry" or "I'm a rapist and I'd do it again"? nilram Feb 2014 #24

If it is the thread I am thinking of, the OP basically said that taking advantage tblue37 Feb 2014 #34

I remember that post. Beacool Feb 2014 #100

But he didn't get banned. One of the many reasons I've let my star expire. Squinch Feb 2014 #171

Good point. Beacool Feb 2014 #172

I remember those posts. "We ALL did it back in the '70s!" WorseBeforeBetter Feb 2014 #163

Um, I didnt DiverDave Feb 2014 #178

That was the general consensus of DUers... WorseBeforeBetter Feb 2014 #179

And the sorry thing is... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #180

Do you have a link to that? Boudica the Lyoness Feb 2014 #159

Why do you assume everyone on this board is a "we progressives"? WorseBeforeBetter Feb 2014 #93

But there's no misogyny on DU. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #3

oh none at all Hekate Feb 2014 #22

Gimme a break. Those kinds of crass jokes don't happen when the victim is male? lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #91

A woman was murdered and you're still banging your male oppression drum. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #113

Here's an interesting observation vis-a-vis dysfunctional juries. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #120

context is everything Whisp Feb 2014 #152

So, you think the jury system sucks, but you'll work to keep it that way? HuckleB Feb 2014 #165

I judge each alert to it's own merits. some suck, some don't. n/t Whisp Feb 2014 #168

Well bless your heart. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #185

erm. Whisp Feb 2014 #192

The imaginative and creative ways we rationalize our denial of a thing are often legion LanternWaste Feb 2014 #131

Remember the guy who fell off the cliff during his honeymoon? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #174

I said it once twice and thrice DonCoquixote Feb 2014 #4

"The alert stalking claim is bogus." Kurovski Feb 2014 #11

Nobody said a thing about alert stalking. JTFrog Feb 2014 #18

"Witch burning" is two posts above this one Renew Deal Feb 2014 #45

what a disgusting comment... chillfactor Feb 2014 #5

shitstains, that's what kind of people. Whisp Feb 2014 #29

Honestly Dorian Gray Feb 2014 #30

They can still see it if they click on show post kcr Feb 2014 #38

Plus, if one doesn't hide something the person feels more boston bean Feb 2014 #64

After Newtown, a host, and I believe former moderator, made disgusting remarks... WorseBeforeBetter Feb 2014 #122

why so surprised? There are jerks everywhere including on DU. You can't get rid of them all. liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #6

I was more disgusted at the post being upheld than the post itself. abq e streeter Feb 2014 #12

Yeah, that really bothers me as well... Violet_Crumble Feb 2014 #14

I don't even know why the OP is in GD. bluedigger Feb 2014 #7

Where would you suggest? Control-Z Feb 2014 #13

State forums, maybe. bluedigger Feb 2014 #15

Gun violence is a national story to a lot of people. cui bono Feb 2014 #19

A gun was used. A knife? Probably wouldn't be posted. Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #66

you have a point. Extremely bad taste lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #8

Yes it was bad taste Mojorabbit Feb 2014 #26

We all have different coping mechanisms. Blue_Adept Feb 2014 #33

As somebody who is rather fond of dark humor, mythology Feb 2014 #39

We are not in a clinical environment, or a war zone, we are on a progressive message forum. lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #40

+1 L0oniX Feb 2014 #51

Since when is a murder victim subject to sick humor on DU? Cha Feb 2014 #9

I haven't seen the thread in question. In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #32

those type of comments are not unusual on such threads JI7 Feb 2014 #10

well if it's any consolation all alerts get sent to admins for review azurnoir Feb 2014 #17

Just as bad was that poster's response when I said that was bad form. cui bono Feb 2014 #20

I alerted on that too.Upheld 5 to 1 abq e streeter Feb 2014 #21

That one actually made me pretty mad cui bono Feb 2014 #23

Sucks. So much for the "Big Tent." blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #25

I alerted on a "joke" the other day about Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #27

...and there are many who would hide anything containing the word "fuck". L0oniX Feb 2014 #48

Many? Really? Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #55

IMO. L0oniX Feb 2014 #56

IYSO Jakes Progress Feb 2014 #85

Long time disruptors and poor juries. morningfog Feb 2014 #28

jury system is a joke. unchecked that box about two weeks after it was implemented. KG Feb 2014 #31

that would be our community standard that our community creates. i think the administration had seabeyond Feb 2014 #35

Juries here can be corrupted by infiltrators and trolls. ananda Feb 2014 #36

i think that's true CreekDog Feb 2014 #47

Just wondering pipi_k Feb 2014 #57

Ahhh gallows humor... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #37

An ambulance crew would get banned here for their humor. L0oniX Feb 2014 #46

Most Soldiers as well... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #53

And what about pipi_k Feb 2014 #60

Juvenile court lawyers and criminal prosecution/defense lawyers would be right out. Shrike47 Feb 2014 #114

no doubt.. my sister's an EMT, and her Facebook feed would cause a massive meltdown here opiate69 Feb 2014 #142

Would that response have been acceptable if the person killed was a man? el_bryanto Feb 2014 #41

No, it would not have been. n/t cui bono Feb 2014 #155

If it was a guy who was killed, would you feel the same way? randome Feb 2014 #42

If that shocks you, see the kind of stuff that gets a pass in the subforums Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #43

I wouldn't hide - It's dark humor chrisa Feb 2014 #44

the problem is that trolls use dark humor inappropriately to disrupt, not lighten the mood CreekDog Feb 2014 #50

No one can 'disrupt' unless someone gets outraged. randome Feb 2014 #62

So... misogyny isn't a problem, but "outrage" over misogyny is a problem? nt redqueen Feb 2014 #72

Where is the misogyny? Gender had nothing to do with the joke. randome Feb 2014 #74

Ok so - making jokes about murder victims isn't a problem? redqueen Feb 2014 #79

So it's a joke about death and not misogyny, then. randome Feb 2014 #83

You said it should be ignored and that the real problem is that people are "outraged". redqueen Feb 2014 #89

I would simply say that being offended does not always require a response. randome Feb 2014 #95

The problem with that is the joke works Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #76

How about yukking it up over a teenage girl getting electrocuted? Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #63

Lol! pintobean Feb 2014 #68

I thought it was Margaret Thatcher, no wonder it offended you CreekDog Feb 2014 #77

Really? The OP said that the dead girl was "Maria Barbu, age 17, of Brasov, Romania". Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #84

i thought that was an alias CreekDog Feb 2014 #166

Woah. n/t Skip Intro Feb 2014 #196

"calculated to cause argument" - are you fucking kidding me? Skip Intro Feb 2014 #195

Then you are part of the problem here! Disgusting! nt Logical Feb 2014 #169

Lighten up, Francis chrisa Feb 2014 #181

Wow, movie quote. Classy. n-t Logical Feb 2014 #198

Win some, lose some Boom Sound 416 Feb 2014 #49

It goes in meta, which is no longer treestar Feb 2014 #52

Disgusting comment. Lifelong Protester Feb 2014 #54

I just served on a jury for a really bad one. kcr Feb 2014 #58

Ugh, no hide on my jury. Hey, it's steak and a blowjob day, everyone! kcr Feb 2014 #59

Could you post the PM results? Kurovski Feb 2014 #177

This sounds meta to me. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #61

Why would this surprise you? Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #65

Got links, Joe? pintobean Feb 2014 #69

Sure... Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #73

Where exactly is "rape defended"? pintobean Feb 2014 #78

I see... Making some distinction on the level of rape is not defending it? Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #90

My point of view pintobean Feb 2014 #92

ahhh... You need to see them say 'Hi, I'm here to defend rape' before you think they do it... Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #112

No, I would have to see them actually defend rape pintobean Feb 2014 #124

Then what is your line to make the leap? Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #128

They are legally different pintobean Feb 2014 #130

Which answers nothing of what I asked... Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #132

Not, it's not, and that's a scurrilous accusation you're tossing around. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #119

Yes, they are the same Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #123

hmmm...going to disagree with you... one_voice Feb 2014 #154

The discussion is not about a 16 and a 19 years old kids... Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #156

I replied to you saying that this... one_voice Feb 2014 #157

There are links further up in the sub-thread, I assumed you had read more then the last two posts Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #162

You seriously don't know what statutory rape is? JTFrog Feb 2014 #144

It is not nt Duckhunter935 Feb 2014 #129

You're the best, Joe! BainsBane Feb 2014 #75

Your assertion is way over the top and mischaracterized what I said. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #115

No... Not one bit... Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #121

And yet no one had to say that the post was yours.... Hmmmmm...... Squinch Feb 2014 #175

This message was self-deleted by its author lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #186

misogyny is not a violation of DU community standards. Lots of misogynist trolls get banned geek tragedy Feb 2014 #67

That speaks volumes. nt redqueen Feb 2014 #71

If it's of any comfort, hidden posts are viewed more than B Calm Feb 2014 #70

I can't imagine what life is like DesMoinesDem Feb 2014 #80

Good point.Let me know when a loved one of yours is murdered , so I can post some jokes about it. abq e streeter Feb 2014 #81

I'd place then in the same context as the person LanternWaste Feb 2014 #133

That is not a violation of CS or TOS. Rex Feb 2014 #82

Insensitivity is listed as a reason to alert abq e streeter Feb 2014 #86

I guess you are just oversensitive. Rex Feb 2014 #87

I find your post insensitive and outrageous cally Feb 2014 #96

Then alert on it! Rex Feb 2014 #102

nuts aint it? Puzzledtraveller Feb 2014 #117

"sexist insults"? pintobean Feb 2014 #108

Well that is what I get for agreeing with the OP! Rex Feb 2014 #111

Either the forum follows rules or it doesn't. The system is not there to address every sensitivity BlueStreak Feb 2014 #145

I think that is an excellent suggestion! Rex Feb 2014 #149

I have made stupid posts before and most were upheld by juries, rightly. BlueStreak Feb 2014 #150

Yes,as someone who has had family and friends murdered, I now realize I'm just being oversensitive abq e streeter Feb 2014 #98

You got told you were wrong by 3 people, if you cannot get over it Rex Feb 2014 #103

I had little idea people predicated their ideas of what is or is not right or wrong... LanternWaste Feb 2014 #136

Yeah some people cannot handle being told they are wrong Rex Feb 2014 #138

derp. opiate69 Feb 2014 #164

I imagine it''s much more convenient for the self-absorbed to label others as oversensitive LanternWaste Feb 2014 #134

Funny...the first two words in my original post are...I AGREE. Rex Feb 2014 #137

I was wondering what DU needs to do to attract Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #88

By all means, let's start encouraging jokes about murder. Maybe genocide, rape.. the list is endless abq e streeter Feb 2014 #94

Your being disingenuous.. Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #105

I think you are spot on! Rex Feb 2014 #107

I've noticed a generation gap on DU for quite awhile. NutmegYankee Feb 2014 #188

and love memes... Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #191

How could I forget that? NutmegYankee Feb 2014 #193

heh!..nt Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #194

It's the DUzy effect at work Mosby Feb 2014 #97

hyperbolic outrage over inconsequentialities does more harm than good TheSarcastinator Feb 2014 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author abq e streeter Feb 2014 #101

and it makes you an easy target for trolls and other offenders TheSarcastinator Feb 2014 #110

Black humor Kelvin Mace Feb 2014 #104

Not Surprised ... Lighten Up, Francis ... but, seriously Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #106

And yet, I managed to get a B-bomb hidden yesterday KamaAina Feb 2014 #109

Probably because noamnety Feb 2014 #118

+1 n/t JTFrog Feb 2014 #146

good hide. progressives should not slur women here. it doesn't matter if it's Palin or Hillary. bettyellen Feb 2014 #151

Just women? It's okay to slur men? pintobean Feb 2014 #158

where did you get that nutty idea? not from me, LOL. bettyellen Feb 2014 #160

why don't you go to the African American group and ask them why it's ok to slur white people? BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #199

This is GD, Blanche pintobean Feb 2014 #201

I personally would never remove any post ever. Shoulders of Giants Feb 2014 #116

My sister-in-law's friend makes $8000 per month posting links on the internet. Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #126

OOOH! Where to get the job???? Please find out and post for out of work DU'ers!!! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #140

Well I have no intention of ever serving on a jury. Shoulders of Giants Feb 2014 #141

and turn this place into a useless shithole like 4chan? No thanks. bettyellen Feb 2014 #161

I know the first amendment has nothing to do with message boards. Shoulders of Giants Feb 2014 #183

well, I appreciate having a space that is not "everything goes". lots of great people do NOT bettyellen Feb 2014 #184

Well if it makes you feel any better, "hidden" JTFrog Feb 2014 #187

LOL, it is sad when I cannot tell if you are serious. Sick! nt Logical Feb 2014 #170

Its just my viewpoint Shoulders of Giants Feb 2014 #182

Thank god, there is too many political correctness police on DU! B Calm Feb 2014 #189

I'm surprised at how much the terms sexist and misogynist are being used hughee99 Feb 2014 #125

I remember that comment too cvoogt Feb 2014 #127

Who died and made you the censor of inappropriate jokes? The Second Stone Feb 2014 #135

There is no free speech on DU. JTFrog Feb 2014 #148

And thank god for that- aren't there some great Libertarian sites where one can spew any old bettyellen Feb 2014 #167

Have compassion. The world is messed up and people deal with that greif in weird ways. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #139

It's a tasteless joke. But hide worthy? Nah LittleBlue Feb 2014 #143

I don't personally think it is healthy ohheckyeah Feb 2014 #147

I'm going to post an unpopular opinion cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #153

Certainly nothing new about that... NutmegYankee Feb 2014 #190

don't ya know, violence against women is funny? (sarcasm) nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2014 #173

Do you believe that joke wouldn't have been if it was a man who was killed? penultimate Feb 2014 #176

The strangest threads keep going and going and going... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #197

The "DU Jury" is bent. flvegan Feb 2014 #200

sorry locking under the no whining about DU clause n/t azurnoir Feb 2014 #202