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eridani

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29. The government fucking well does control tax policy

Reply to ProSense (Reply #26)

Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:25 AM

Dec 2011

Tax the fuckers and spend it on public goods. Why is that so hard to understand?

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All temporary taxcuts should be allowed to expire. [View all] kentuck Dec 2011 OP

I'd gladly pay a grand and give up lunch for a fucking year to watch Richie Rich have to pay his lonestarnot Dec 2011 #1

That's great, if you don't need that grand to feed your kids. TheWraith Dec 2011 #16

Would you take food stamps if your children were hungry? kentuck Dec 2011 #19

Not just a Grand ... BOHICA12 Dec 2011 #27

I make so little money SheilaT Dec 2011 #78

"backbone? courage" ? what are these strange things you speak of ? russspeakeasy Dec 2011 #2

The problem comes when less income=less spending=recession, layoffs, and so on bhikkhu Dec 2011 #3

More money coming into the Treasury means more government spending... kentuck Dec 2011 #4

It doesn't, though Yo_Mama Dec 2011 #46

However, it is utterly idiotic to suggest that tax cuts have any significant effect on-- eridani Dec 2011 #9

Hey kentuck rsmith6621 Dec 2011 #5

March? This is going to go on until November. Hang onto your shorts! lonestarnot Dec 2011 #6

Maybe you should tell your Congressman to fight for unemployment benefits... kentuck Dec 2011 #7

speak for your own income bigtree Dec 2011 #8

Better than asking people to surrender what they have paid for all their lives? kentuck Dec 2011 #10

nothing of the sort is occurring. You're just using fear to make your point bigtree Dec 2011 #13

There is nothing in the general fund. kentuck Dec 2011 #17

that should apply to everything else then, not just when the middle class gets a break bigtree Dec 2011 #21

Just what is politically possible at the moment. kentuck Dec 2011 #22

denying the middle class a tax break before changing the other priorities isn't 'courage' bigtree Dec 2011 #43

Could you please get off this this tax cut bull ? kentuck Dec 2011 #49

yeah, that's right, we're not just regular folks out here, working our asses off bigtree Dec 2011 #52

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #54

That's about as direct a personal assault as you can make Kentuck bigtree Dec 2011 #57

"you miserable wretch"?? kentuck Dec 2011 #58

You can't keep from taunting people, can you? bigtree Dec 2011 #59

You deserve everything you get. kentuck Dec 2011 #60

They need more money than some pissy tax cut is going to give them. eridani Dec 2011 #11

They hooked people on the Bush taxcuts rather than pay raises from their employers... kentuck Dec 2011 #12

The payroll tax cut extension is Obama policy bigtree Dec 2011 #15

Jeebus. Because taxes pay for necessary public goods, ferchrissakes! eridani Dec 2011 #18

so that burden should be all on the middle class? bigtree Dec 2011 #42

It should be mainly on the rich eridani Dec 2011 #65

right, where's the replacement? Where's the alternative? bigtree Dec 2011 #14

Just surrender... kentuck Dec 2011 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Dec 2011 #53

Here is my take airplaneman Dec 2011 #23

Well said, airplaneman. kentuck Dec 2011 #24

+10000!! n/t eridani Dec 2011 #31

The FICA tax cut is paid for, the SS trustees have received funds each month FogerRox Dec 2011 #75

The social security trust fund is not being reduced by one penny. The tax cut should be extended, BzaDem Dec 2011 #25

No--the firewall separating Social Security from general revenue for 75 years-- eridani Dec 2011 #28

Some bullets on this airplaneman Dec 2011 #30

"You do not protect social security by cutting its funding and hope you will come up with the money" BzaDem Dec 2011 #40

I wish someone would answer this "point"... kentuck Dec 2011 #50

This ProSense Dec 2011 #26

The government fucking well does control tax policy eridani Dec 2011 #29

Tax their cash assets? Do you want my savings in the bank taxed as well? RB TexLa Dec 2011 #32

Your bank savings is already doubly taxed eridani Dec 2011 #37

Er, no. You may be talking about interest on savings. But you do not pay a tax on the principal. BzaDem Dec 2011 #41

Cash assets they likely are not ArcticFox Dec 2011 #48

And ProSense Dec 2011 #35

Unfortunately, the President already crossed the Rubicon of allowing the cutting payroll taxes JCMach1 Dec 2011 #33

F--k That! If you make over $250/K a year you didn't just live through a recession. FarLeftFist Dec 2011 #34

And also the 48% of the population that is low income or outright poor eridani Dec 2011 #38

spoken like someone with money to spare! MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #36

Spoken by someone who knows that tax cutting since 2000 has destroyed our economy eridani Dec 2011 #39

Making Work Pay *is* a tax cut. dawg Dec 2011 #45

It is a tax credit, and should be referred to as such eridani Dec 2011 #62

When you increase a tax credit, you cut taxes. dawg Dec 2011 #67

These "word games" are otherwise known as FRAMING, which the Repukes have-- eridani Dec 2011 #69

I understand all about framing, Lakoff and such, but ... dawg Dec 2011 #72

Only because the Repukes have been pushing the evil government, taxes bad eridani Dec 2011 #74

Too purist for me. You ignore all those you would hurt to achieve perfection. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #55

It wasn't passed to relieve the pain... kentuck Dec 2011 #56

So you think it's time to stop stimulating the Economy? wrong! MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #80

Since when is common sense way out of line and an impossible goal? eridani Dec 2011 #63

Actually wages have not kept up with inflation for over 35 years. FogerRox Dec 2011 #76

I imagine to a subsistence farmer in Rwanda... LanternWaste Dec 2011 #61

That would be counter-productive. dawg Dec 2011 #44

Works for me. Sherman A1 Dec 2011 #47

As Loretta Lynn said... kentuck Dec 2011 #51

No truer words ever spoken. sad sally Dec 2011 #64

Depression plus belt-tightening equals more depression cthulu2016 Dec 2011 #66

In fact, the best way to put more money into people's pockets and to improve the economy Fool Count Dec 2011 #68

agreed, let them all expire... bonzotex Dec 2011 #70

There are a lot of people here on DU that want taxes raised on the other guy taught_me_patience Dec 2011 #71

K & R !!! - Agreed !!! WillyT Dec 2011 #73

You're preaching to the choir on this, my friend... WheelWalker Dec 2011 #77

I agree - nt badtoworse Dec 2011 #79