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In reply to the discussion: "US, EU staged classic regime change in Ukraine." [View all]sibelian
(7,804 posts)91. OK, so you propose that the report is bad beause the source is bad
I ask you for examples to back up your claim and you provide me with the example that 's under dispute as evidence for your point.
That's called ASSUMING THE THING YOU'RE SETTING OUT TO PROVE. It's actully pretty impressive as most examples of circular logic I've pulled to bits at least involve one or two actual STEPS along the circle. Your circle consists of ONE STEP.
There's no point saying silly things like "You go on loving the propaganda" - you have absolutely no idea whatsoever what my actual position on this subject is. It's like you're an automaton talking to an imaginary friend.
LET'S PLAY A GAME.
Let's pretend I'm not whatever you need me to be to make you feel like a clever person on an Internet message board but a real person potentially persuadable that you have a believable point to make about the RT. Go ahead, make it. If it looks like the paper is operating outside ordinary standards of objective journalism, well let's see how! Wouldn't that be interesting?
Hint: You needn't start off on the "MEEEEEEH! It'S RUSSIA!!!!" foot. That's not going to convince me.
Actual, fact/or/evidence-based contradictions of the report's CLAIMS are VERY likely to convince me.
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Russia Today is not really an unbiased or accurate source of reportage on events in Ukraine.
Spider Jerusalem
Feb 2014
#1
The interview represents a particular point of view which is nonsensical...
Spider Jerusalem
Feb 2014
#30
Do you have a link for that "majority support for EU integration"? That's not what I saw
BelgianMadCow
Feb 2014
#34
"It's shallow, superficial, lacks any kind of international perspecttive . . ."
another_liberal
Feb 2014
#31
The OP introduces that theme, US media is dismissed as 'Corporate Controlled'
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2014
#92
What do you think of the substance of the interview? It wasn't rocket science you know, most
sabrina 1
Feb 2014
#121
Ah, but by that time there will be ANOTHER situation that they can.......
socialist_n_TN
Feb 2014
#96
After ONE whole day, we "suddenly" learn that Ukraine needs 35 billion and the IMF stands ready
BelgianMadCow
Feb 2014
#37
I didn't know that. But then I'm just now starting to research this situation.......
socialist_n_TN
Feb 2014
#124
"those necessary funds" - like the 5 billion Victoria Nuland boasted about?
BelgianMadCow
Feb 2014
#35
Brian Becker and his organization have zero credibility. It's a shame someone posted this drivel
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#38
If you're going to believe that bull$#it Russian propaganda then there's no point in spending time
okaawhatever
Feb 2014
#45
Right. Thank god we all forgot the US media lied about the pretext for war in Iraq.
BelgianMadCow
Feb 2014
#50
If someone can't take being told bullshit, they need to stay off a public forum.
hobbit709
Feb 2014
#61
The tale of a russian & US expert on Ukraine at TRNN is a valuable addition to this thread
BelgianMadCow
Feb 2014
#41
Hey, that's 'classic regime change' right there. Don't you know anything about history?
randome
Feb 2014
#59
If the Tea Party rioted in D.C., angry mobs threw firebombs at the White House . . .
another_liberal
Feb 2014
#65
The OP waves off other opinion by questioning the sources, here's the quote:
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2014
#93
I wouldn't disagree that government corruption is the primary triggering factor
sibelian
Feb 2014
#113
So, if I read this right, Obama got us the Ukraine, and Putin has Comrade Eddie as a
msanthrope
Feb 2014
#106
There you have it folks, straight from the Kremlin sponsored media outlet.
Tarheel_Dem
Feb 2014
#114