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freshwest

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34. If people refuse to talk about something so obvious as color and racism, how can they be expected to

Sat Mar 1, 2014, 02:09 AM

Mar 2014

be open-minded about class?

And it is not a discussion that can be framed by others. It is not 'their' discussion. They've proved they don't want the truth to be heard. Even if such a truth is claimed to be biased by the speaker, who can say they don't have a bias?

Denying that it should be heard is biased in itself. It's time to get this going. Those who 'don't want to hear it' can continue living in the past. They are not changing a thing.

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Please, if we are going to devolve into the "White Privilege" debate, can I first implore that we [View all] Cofitachequi Feb 2014 OP

Good luck. nt rrneck Feb 2014 #1

Welcome to DU. geek tragedy Feb 2014 #2

Nope. bravenak Feb 2014 #3

If people refuse to talk about something so obvious as color and racism, how can they be expected to freshwest Mar 2014 #34

This discussion is needed, good, bad, and ugly. bravenak Mar 2014 #35

I think you are a little late to the show. kwassa Feb 2014 #4

+1 nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #37

Apparently many folks here Texasgal Feb 2014 #5

How about opinions about white privilege be restricted to those who are not white? randome Feb 2014 #6

Yea but by definition you know what it is to be white! upaloopa Feb 2014 #7

Frankly, as a white person, it's amazing to me that the white people denying white privilege Squinch Feb 2014 #14

Back of the bus, people. NO. We can do both- why can't you? bettyellen Feb 2014 #8

"We'll get to racism as soon as we've eliminated inequality" Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #9

Really, given that we will never eliminate inequality, it is another way of saying, "Shut up and Squinch Feb 2014 #18

"No talking about racism until there are no poor white people." gollygee Feb 2014 #10

yes. Cofitachequi Feb 2014 #11

No it isn't. Squinch Feb 2014 #15

So,the poor black people should stop being so uppity and walk on to the back of the bus... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #16

What about us poor and working class minorities? Are we going to eat white acknowledgment of TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #20

I find it curious that people often only throw "class warfare" into the conversation when racism is Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #12

and if you talk about sexism, we hear how good we have it compared to _______________. bettyellen Feb 2014 #21

Correct. Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #23

and Beyonce! bettyellen Feb 2014 #24

No handmade34 Feb 2014 #13

If you stay on DU enough, you learn how to multitask derby378 Feb 2014 #17

To All!!! I give up and apologize for ever making a suggestion. Cofitachequi Feb 2014 #19

so stop disrespecting "divergent sides", because "they" love that divisiveness too. bettyellen Feb 2014 #22

Your mythical "man behind the curtain" of all oppression is obscenely self-serving. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #26

I hear this argument all the time at white-washed hipster bars in gentrified districts. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #25

You do have a way with words, don't you? Couldn't agree more. Democracyinkind Feb 2014 #27

That is certainly how it works around here BainsBane Feb 2014 #30

although you're not reading, I still have a suggestion BainsBane Feb 2014 #28

For that matter, what is meant by "white"? Bonobo Feb 2014 #31

It is culturally constructed and changes over time and place BainsBane Feb 2014 #32

O right, first we must overthrow controlling powers that have run all of human history... Whisp Feb 2014 #29

sorry, but raciscm and racial discrimination remains a "real" issue fishwax Feb 2014 #33

I'm confident that most of us in the 99 percent can walk and chew gum at the same time. (nt) Heidi Mar 2014 #36

Wow, this is right out of the White Privilege Bingo Card.... MrScorpio Mar 2014 #38