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iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
17. No, whats sad
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 01:00 AM
Mar 2014

is how naïve you are about this region.

the threat of nationalism in Ukraine is very real whether you like it or not.

I personally hate 'president' putin... and think his actions have been extremely over the top...
but to pretend that right wingers aren't taking over the Ukraine wont change that.

I know the Ukrainian people were good intentioned getting behind these protests... their government was/is indeed corrupt...
but the folks leading the protests and ripping those statues down were right wing fundamentalists. im sorry, they just were.

so now the 'new government' of Ukraine is in and they are just as corrupt as the last bunch.. with ties to the CIA (weve tended to back nationalists since WW2 ended, not sure why..) and organized crime (mobs)..
I hardly think ousting one corrupt government for another form of corrupt government was really the goal most Ukrainians had in mind.


don't let your hatred for one man blur history for ya... enough of us hate him enough that you can hold back a little, I promise

the left hasn't had a fight in this since day one...
just a corrupt corporatist government against multiple corrupt criminal right wing nationalist groups... with the angry (at the sitting government) Ukrainian people caught in the middle.

lets just hope the international community punishes Russia for its actions economically.. I say squeeze until the bread lines start to form again, but that's just me.

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Neo-Nazis Pour Into Kiev [View all] RandySF Mar 2014 OP
Amazing: We used to shun any association with Neo-Nazis, now it is ok to combine forces with them... newthinking Mar 2014 #1
Not really. We have baggers, paulites and white supremacists in the GOP. I posted this earlier: freshwest Mar 2014 #10
So one neoNazi jackass from Sweden = them pouring into Kiev? Lol Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #2
Says the guy who refuses to denounce actual neo-nazis. Union Scribe Mar 2014 #4
If you actually read the link, you would have more information. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #6
LOL. I began the response to #1 and end up #10 after your #3. Bet I won't get a reply, either. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #12
Well, yours was worth the wait. It looks like you've compiled Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #14
I come to DU for information and reasoning, not opinion so much. Thanks. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #16
lmao iamthebandfanman Mar 2014 #15
Yeah, just one RandySF Mar 2014 #18
Why are neo-nazis against acme cream? snooper2 Mar 2014 #32
Why are these characters running loose? Why are they tolerated? UGH! freshwest Mar 2014 #36
The BBC conducted in person interviews. go west young man Mar 2014 #23
You call everything a lie you don't want to face as a fact. Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #31
Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #3
I think your inflammatory graphic photos should have a warning Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #7
I think those photos should be shown on the nightly news every time that kind of horror happens. nt polly7 Mar 2014 #11
Once again I agree with you Polly. go west young man Mar 2014 #24
I agree. And we can be sure if those photos were not a record of our drone 'wars', but of Russia eg sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #26
no one expects the us dronequisition tiny elvis Mar 2014 #13
Bad taste? Sure... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #22
We shouldn't help Nazis in Ukraine, just as it would have been a bad idea to help terrorists in quinnox Mar 2014 #5
We are helping rebels in Syria with non lethal aid Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #8
No, whats sad iamthebandfanman Mar 2014 #17
There are a sizable number of Neo-Nazis in Ukraine quinnox Mar 2014 #20
I have no problem admitting there are Neo-Nazis in Ukraine Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #21
The BBC disagrees with you. go west young man Mar 2014 #25
Oh you again. Lol. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #28
Yep. Just me and the BBC. go west young man Mar 2014 #29
I watched it. They were very clear that influence of those groups is still limited Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #30
I'm curious how a BBC reporter go west young man Mar 2014 #33
Classic neocon mischief - they don't care how messy it gets, as long as they get their way. reformist2 Mar 2014 #9
I fucking hate Nazis. Deep13 Mar 2014 #19
They are psychopaths. I know they were worse than we know. Even a hint that these people are being sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #27
+ infinity squared nt Zorra Mar 2014 #34
Let's just call them a motley crew of unsavory characters we *hope* we can control. reformist2 Mar 2014 #35
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