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Fumesucker

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27. Hawaii was once an independent state
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 05:05 AM
Mar 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overthrow_of_the_Kingdom_of_Hawaii

On July 6, 1846, U.S. Secretary of State John C. Calhoun, on behalf of President Tyler, afforded formal recognition of Hawaiian independence. As a result of the recognition of Hawaiian independence, the Hawaiian Kingdom entered into treaties with the major nations of the world and established over ninety legations and consulates in multiple seaports and cities.[4] Though there were threats to Hawaii's sovereignty throughout the Kingdom's history, it was not until the signing of the Bayonet Constitution in 1887 that this threat began to be realized. On January 17, 1893, the last monarch of the Kingdom of Hawaii, Queen Lili'uokalani, was deposed in a coup d'état led by seven non-native subjects of the Hawaiian Kingdom, five American nationals, one English national, and one German national,[5] all who were living and doing business in Hawaii and opposed to her attempt to establish a new Constitution.

The coup efforts were supported by American minister to Hawaii John L. Stevens and the invasion of U.S. Marines, who came ashore at the request of the conspirators. The coup left the queen imprisoned at Iolani Palace under house arrest. It briefly became the Republic of Hawaii, before eventual seizure by the United States in 1898.

The overthrow was led by Lorrin A. Thurston, a grandson of American missionaries, who derived his support primarily from the American and European business class residing in Hawaii and other supporters of the Reform Party of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Most of the leaders of the Committee of Safety that deposed the queen were American and European citizens who were also Kingdom subjects. They included legislators, government officers, and a Supreme Court Justice of the Hawaiian Kingdom.[6]

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Okay? Alright. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #46
Do two wrongs make a right? Renew Deal Mar 2014 #2
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You constantly put words in other people's mouths Fumesucker Mar 2014 #25
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Read the thread, clearly *some* on DU believe every damn word our politicians utter Fumesucker Mar 2014 #26
he should stop telling Netanyahu what to do also JI7 Mar 2014 #8
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Hawaii was once an independent state Fumesucker Mar 2014 #27
So were the the other 49 states, Jenoch Mar 2014 #30
Comparing invasions and overthrowing governments on the other hand is not silly Fumesucker Mar 2014 #31
What government invasions is it that you mention? Jenoch Mar 2014 #32
This one specifically Fumesucker Mar 2014 #33
The Hawaiin Islands were destined to be Jenoch Mar 2014 #44
Destiny, eh? Fumesucker Mar 2014 #48
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