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MrBig

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128. Well, fact 2 is in dispute

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:09 AM

Mar 2012

Not by me mind you, but rather Zimmerman himself claims the kid confronted Zimmerman.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/15/2696446_p2/trayvon-martin-case.html

But to say it is undisputed would be wrong.

The point of this isn't to support Zimmerman or to say he doesn't deserve to be behind bars awaiting trial right now. The point is to say that none of us were there. We don't know the facts. We know what has been reported to be the facts. There have been PLENTY of instances where the "facts" reported were completely off base. The Atlanta Olympics bomber comes to mind.

The fact that Zimmerman admits shooting the unarmed kid, and the 911 calls on top of that, lead me to question why an arrest has not been made. That seems to be enough indisputable evidence to lead at least to an arrest.

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Looks like a lot of people want to hang him now rather than wait for a trial. [View all] L0oniX Mar 2012 OP

Whatcha talking about? Kalidurga Mar 2012 #1

No, I think people only want to ARREST him not "hang" him. nt nanabugg Mar 2012 #97

So you don't think Zimmerman put that bullet in an unarmed kid? CakeGrrl Mar 2012 #2

So you don't need a trial to decide who did what? L0oniX Mar 2012 #4

LOonix you lose this argument. Bicoastal Mar 2012 #14

"argumnet"? L0oniX Mar 2012 #43

Yes, we need a stinking trial and I explicitly said so. You're being obtuse. nt Bicoastal Mar 2012 #45

You troll .99center Mar 2012 #52

"You troll?" Are you kidding me? BeHereNow Mar 2012 #172

Sure .99center Mar 2012 #327

Did I miss something? Has Zimmerman been arrested and charged? Booster Mar 2012 #75

Not very bright are you? EOTE Mar 2012 #102

I'm sure you and the mob that you are part of would just go ahead and hang him now. L0oniX Mar 2012 #131

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #134

You obviously can't carry on a decent discusion but have decended into... L0oniX Mar 2012 #142

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #143

Just did jury for an alert on your post L0oniX... BeHereNow Mar 2012 #170

Indeed ...the "ridiculous responses" IMO are indicative of a mob mentality... L0oniX Mar 2012 #175

I'll go you one further... BeHereNow Mar 2012 #177

Thanks for your thoughtful responces. L0oniX Mar 2012 #182

Well, I don't know how much thought is required to see that BeHereNow Mar 2012 #186

Unfortunatly this sort of thing is driving people away from DU. L0oniX Mar 2012 #193

WOW. People tell you how wrong you are and it is a MOB!? Rex Mar 2012 #345

no, in George Zimmerman's world, there is no need for a trial, or even Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #196

and ye shall know them by their spelling elehhhhna Mar 2012 #340

If he'd been black and Trayvon white, you'd better believe liberalhistorian Mar 2012 #68

That's a bit reframing as the question is: Is anyone really innocent before proven guilty anymore? L0oniX Mar 2012 #185

So you don't need Zimmerman in custody or questioned for the trial? .99center Mar 2012 #15

Is that what I said? Troll much? L0oniX Mar 2012 #53

It's an honest question .99center Mar 2012 #69

No, that would be you. EOTE Mar 2012 #103

The irony of what you have said escapes you entirely. L0oniX Mar 2012 #133

I'm quite sure you don't know what irony is. EOTE Mar 2012 #136

You can see the foolish in all the insults you've thrown at me... L0oniX Mar 2012 #144

You know, the internet has tons of information available for you. EOTE Mar 2012 #145

I asked a question. "Is anyone really innocent before proven guilty anymore?" L0oniX Mar 2012 #152

Frankly, I am amazed that more posts on this thread have not been hidden... BeHereNow Mar 2012 #181

Where and when did the OP say that? BeHereNow Mar 2012 #174

No where in the OP .99center Mar 2012 #314

What "muddies" the case is the mob hearsay, the media pile on and the injection of the race card. L0oniX Mar 2012 #325

Is anyone really innocent before proven guilty anymore? .99center Mar 2012 #336

The point is there was going to be NO further investigation. savalez Mar 2012 #18

Nothing wrong with justice as long as it comes from a court of law and not... L0oniX Mar 2012 #46

You think maybe someone should've said that to Zimmerman? jaded_old_cynic Mar 2012 #80

Martin: Unarmed and shot dead. Zimmerman: Shooter. CakeGrrl Mar 2012 #22

Do we put someone in jail because the public thinks he's guilty? Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #25

No. We conduct a PROPER investigation, arrest suspects, and put them on trial kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #32

Ding Ding Ding ...someone gets it. L0oniX Mar 2012 #54

Well, you certainly don't get it. Read that post again - none of that was done. Booster Mar 2012 #88

Ding,Ding,Ding, butterfly77 Mar 2012 #184

Your "ass" as you put it has not addressed the question. L0oniX Mar 2012 #201

Only if you have... butterfly77 Mar 2012 #204

So now I am saying Zim is innocent? WOW Put words into peoples mouths much? L0oniX Mar 2012 #206

Exactly. Mojorabbit Mar 2012 #61

First, there needs to be a full investigation, and an indictment handed down. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #107

You're busting the narrative here slackmaster Mar 2012 #71

Droning unarmed kids is no better. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #223

Not pertaining to the op question but ...add the soldier who killed 16 Afgans. L0oniX Mar 2012 #231

Who? RobertEarl Mar 2012 #3

we all want him arrested Enrique Mar 2012 #5

Net nanny much? L0oniX Mar 2012 #8

No, I want to see him arrested now rather than wait for the authorities in FL to lose interest. Bicoastal Mar 2012 #6

That is not what it looks like to me. Control-Z Mar 2012 #7

"innocent" So you have all the facts then ...right? L0oniX Mar 2012 #13

Yep. Control-Z Mar 2012 #20

Well LooniX, that has been the problem Oilwellian Mar 2012 #93

Yes, are you really so daft as to not realize this? EOTE Mar 2012 #111

I think the OP's point is MrBig Mar 2012 #123

There are plenty of absolutes in this case. EOTE Mar 2012 #126

Well, fact 2 is in dispute MrBig Mar 2012 #128

Figure that, the cold blooded killer doesn't want to paint himself as a cold blooded killer. EOTE Mar 2012 #129

That does mean it is a disputed fact MrBig Mar 2012 #134

Enough facts are known for Zimmerman to be in jail awaiting a murder one charge. EOTE Mar 2012 #139

I pretty much agree MrBig Mar 2012 #149

Also undisputed Son of Gob Mar 2012 #232

+1 L0oniX Mar 2012 #208

Really? Because we think he should have been arrested (and his gun confiscated for inspection?) hlthe2b Mar 2012 #9

I am all for an arrest and investigation. I am not for "guilty before proven so". L0oniX Mar 2012 #58

That's all that people here have been asking for. EOTE Mar 2012 #112

no one here is stalking George Zimmerman with a loaded weapon. Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #209

The question was "Is anyone really innocent before proven guilty anymore?" L0oniX Mar 2012 #222

Trayvon was. Solomon Mar 2012 #307

What the fuck are you writing about? bluestate10 Mar 2012 #10

i think folks want the process of justice to move forward...accused, arrested, trial...etc. spanone Mar 2012 #11

Seems you should ask that of G Zimmerman as far as the value of Mr Martin's innocence is concerned. Jumping John Mar 2012 #12

So we don't need a trial or jury then huh ...as you said... L0oniX Mar 2012 #19

Very poor reading skills, he didn't say that at all. EOTE Mar 2012 #113

Irony still escapes you. L0oniX Mar 2012 #153

please provide a link showing anyone saying that zimmerman should be hung, sans trial-- niyad Mar 2012 #16

Well that would be nice except for that it seems many are using this to go off on an anti gun rant. L0oniX Mar 2012 #24

ah, since your original statement has been successfully challenged, you are switching themes? niyad Mar 2012 #35

"successfully challenged" LOL L0oniX Mar 2012 #76

No, it's evidence of your piss poor logic skills. EOTE Mar 2012 #114

...and your "mob" logic is not a piss poor skill? L0oniX Mar 2012 #147

Attack others and then play the victim MattBaggins Mar 2012 #150

Reframe much? .99center Mar 2012 #87

Not at all. Rather it is you who are trying to reframe. Nice try though. L0oniX Mar 2012 #96

No, it was you who said that people are using this tragedy to try to hang Zimmerman. EOTE Mar 2012 #115

The question was "Is anyone really innocent before proven guilty anymore?" L0oniX Mar 2012 #154

Probably 95 times out of 100 I would agree with you. TheWraith Mar 2012 #17

WRONG. USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #21

Normally anyone using a gun in Florida for self defense will be arrested until enough is known. L0oniX Mar 2012 #29

NOW you get it. Booster Mar 2012 #90

Now? L0oniX Mar 2012 #95

"Small, skinny kid". A correction shadowrider Mar 2012 #101

140 lbs and 6'3" is undoubtedly skinny. EOTE Mar 2012 #116

Read again. He weighed more than 140. shadowrider Mar 2012 #121

Every report that I've read said he weighed 140 lbs. EOTE Mar 2012 #125

the police report says 160 pokerfan Mar 2012 #188

At least some of us agree. Zanzoobar Mar 2012 #23

Since Zmann put a bullet first rather than speaking to the kid... Lost-in-FL Mar 2012 #26

Certainly ...but I have been seeing a lot of mob mentallity going on here and other places. L0oniX Mar 2012 #31

I wouldn't blame people for being this upset. Easy to take it lightly... Lost-in-FL Mar 2012 #41

The rule of law is nothing to take lightly ...the cops seem to have messed up on this one. L0oniX Mar 2012 #78

The problem here is that the Internet/media are much quicker/slappier than our Lost-in-FL Mar 2012 #86

The original question is "Is anyone really innocent before proven guilty anymore?" L0oniX Mar 2012 #179

Like the NRA? .99center Mar 2012 #70

Reframe much? L0oniX Mar 2012 #79

your message is bullshit. Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #27

Your observation is looking thru bull shit. Apparently you are not seeing the mob mentallity... L0oniX Mar 2012 #36

I would settle for an arrest. unapatriciated Mar 2012 #28

So would I. I only have a problem with the mob finding him guilty before a trial. L0oniX Mar 2012 #84

Silly you, you're not aware that a mob won't be deciding his fate. EOTE Mar 2012 #117

Maybe you should teach her why trials have to be moved to another local. L0oniX Mar 2012 #146

I assume you mean 'locale', given that 'local' is an adjective? EOTE Mar 2012 #148

You've made your point ...you have found him guilty without a trial. L0oniX Mar 2012 #155

How about just having a trial? DCBob Mar 2012 #30

...and that relates to the question how? L0oniX Mar 2012 #233

You clearly arent comprehending the issue. DCBob Mar 2012 #238

You clearly missed the actual question I originally asked. L0oniX Mar 2012 #318

you're shooting your mouth off, but you are utterly ignorant of the basic facts of the story Enrique Mar 2012 #33

Maybe you haven't noticed the mob mentallity ...I can't help you see it. L0oniX Mar 2012 #37

The mob mentallity is typical here johnnie Mar 2012 #57

LOL ...even a jury could see that. L0oniX Mar 2012 #59

The argument of the OP is classic "turn the tables" bullshit. nt Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #44

...and your argument is what? ...we don''t need a court of law to find Zim guilty? Nice! L0oniX Mar 2012 #49

Nope guitar man Mar 2012 #34

So do I. L0oniX Mar 2012 #38

Yes, people are really, really angry. EFerrari Mar 2012 #39

The self admitted KILLER has not even been arrested! workinclasszero Mar 2012 #40

The "world" is not the judge and jury. I'm for an arrest at the least. L0oniX Mar 2012 #55

Innocent until proven guilty is a legal, courtroom standard bluestateguy Mar 2012 #42

We want him arrested Marrah_G Mar 2012 #47

Of course I do ...like any other person that fires a gun for any reason in Florida. L0oniX Mar 2012 #50

you thought he was arrested didn't you Enrique Mar 2012 #56

You could spend all day here reading into things and trying to reframe couldn't you. L0oniX Mar 2012 #63

that sounds like an apology Enrique Mar 2012 #65

You must be smoking something. L0oniX Mar 2012 #72

Everyone knows that you're fully ignorant of this subject. EOTE Mar 2012 #118

and you have totally ignored the original question and have gone off on a knee jerk reaction and... L0oniX Mar 2012 #156

I find your posts disruptive and offensive EOTE. BeHereNow Mar 2012 #197

I want a real investigation... cynatnite Mar 2012 #48

I want him arrested too. I know if I used my gun I would be arrested until the facts are known. L0oniX Mar 2012 #62

actually a trial would be nice arely staircase Mar 2012 #51

Yeah, just a basic criminal investigation and trial would be nice. backscatter712 Mar 2012 #60

"police wanted to simply pat Zimmerman on the back for killing an n***" L0oniX Mar 2012 #64

So why do you think the Sanford police was so lackadaisical? backscatter712 Mar 2012 #92

I agree. The original question was "Is anyone really innocent before proven guilty anymore?" L0oniX Mar 2012 #157

I agree there - everybody has the right to due process. backscatter712 Mar 2012 #166

"they always get away with it" unionworks Mar 2012 #66

Well, I certainly agree with innocent before proven guilty and I agree liberalhistorian Mar 2012 #67

IMO the "stand your ground" law is meant to be applied when confronting a criminal in your own home. L0oniX Mar 2012 #82

Yeah, and we all know how much your opinion counts in these matters. NT EOTE Mar 2012 #120

Yep ...it is a discussion board ...even though you'd rather turn it into snipe. L0oniX Mar 2012 #130

You've been sniping from the get go. EOTE Mar 2012 #132

You obviously aren't interested in any kind of discussion... L0oniX Mar 2012 #138

Says the person who thinks that demanding justice where there is none EOTE Mar 2012 #141

LOL ...and you have yet to actually adress the original question but have devolved into insults. L0oniX Mar 2012 #159

best post in this thread nt barbtries Mar 2012 #110

yes I do CatWoman Mar 2012 #73

I wouldn't say a lot of people, but I'd say this person does... Hippo_Tron Mar 2012 #74

I am not a court of law. I can and will say whatever the hell I want. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2012 #77

No one has said you can't say what you want. If anything a lot of people object... L0oniX Mar 2012 #81

What you're talking about here isn't really about this case at all RZM Mar 2012 #83

Agree'd. L0oniX Mar 2012 #85

if the races were reversed unionworks Mar 2012 #89

Exactly. Lilyeye Mar 2012 #99

Except Zimmerman wasn't a white man n/t MrBig Mar 2012 #124

Indeed. It kind of invalidates the reframing going on ...trying to make it a B/W race thing. L0oniX Mar 2012 #187

most of the 49 times unionworks Mar 2012 #213

Exactly MrBig Mar 2012 #235

I agree MrBig Mar 2012 #236

Nice reframe. Was there anymore "bullshit" you wanted to say or would you accually like to ... L0oniX Mar 2012 #178

you are taking unionworks Mar 2012 #214

Were you going to address the question or go off on a rant about something else? L0oniX Mar 2012 #217

I am not so sure that is a fair accusation. ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #91

From what I have seen it looks like a large amount of people have already found him guilty. L0oniX Mar 2012 #162

"What scares me more is the possibility that someone innocent can be found guilty and executed." Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #215

More reframing ...nice. So you don't care if someone on death row is innocent. L0oniX Mar 2012 #218

reframing? Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #220

More reframing. L0oniX Mar 2012 #227

you claim to want discussion, Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #243

You are obviously not in this for a discussion on the question. L0oniX Mar 2012 #263

What are the issues that aren't being addressed? I can read Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #268

Hung? no. It'd be nice if they'd arrest or charge him. Chan790 Mar 2012 #94

No, looks like a lot of people just want justice for a kid being dead. Lilyeye Mar 2012 #98

The op title was a statement ...the question is below. L0oniX Mar 2012 #226

FAIL. Gigantic fail. cali Mar 2012 #100

You FAILED to answer the questrion... L0oniX Mar 2012 #160

your own question presumes guilt Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #163

That's called a "statement" and it is my opinion and this is a place where... L0oniX Mar 2012 #169

yes, I've posted it- Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #191

I see that you already have decided what Zim did. So I take it you are fine with... L0oniX Mar 2012 #198

no, Zimmerman himself said he shot Trayvon. Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #207

I'm not interested in a discussion on anything other than the question that I asked. L0oniX Mar 2012 #219

Was someone arrested? mmonk Mar 2012 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Mar 2012 #105

I think you are confusing legal application and sentiment LanternWaste Mar 2012 #106

So, after being stalked and confronted, did this kid have a right to STAND HIS GROUND, if that mfcorey1 Mar 2012 #108

The question was "Is anyone really innocent before proven guilty anymore?" L0oniX Mar 2012 #224

how about an ARREST? barbtries Mar 2012 #109

How about you have a discussion over the original question? L0oniX Mar 2012 #225

Wrong! Wind Dancer Mar 2012 #119

No, it doesn't. Iggo Mar 2012 #122

Ahh the old broad brush... trumad Mar 2012 #127

...and are you adressing the original question? L0oniX Mar 2012 #161

gunz-uh fascisthunter Mar 2012 #137

Ayup. The denizens of the Gungeoun are in a panic. Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #278

what trial? he hasn't even been arrested? WI_DEM Mar 2012 #140

No. Vigilante "justice" is not our schtick. Not everyone thinks like GZ PotatoChip Mar 2012 #151

Other than that ...did you want to discuss issues involving the question? L0oniX Mar 2012 #229

looks like you think you can speak for others- as for me, I believe Zimmerman deserves a trial... Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #158

not when there's incontrovertible proof elana i am Mar 2012 #164

original question: Is anyone really innocent before proven guilty anymore? L0oniX Mar 2012 #176

The Florida police decided that Zimmerman was SO innocent, that they did no investigation JoePhilly Mar 2012 #165

They would have to prove or have evidence that Zim was not in fear for his life. L0oniX Mar 2012 #171

You almost get it right, then fail. JoePhilly Mar 2012 #228

Instead of reframing how about we accually discuss things concerning the question? L0oniX Mar 2012 #230

Our court system does not get involved when the police decide that the guy holding the JoePhilly Mar 2012 #247

An arrest was not part of the op. The question is. So how would you like to be on trial... L0oniX Mar 2012 #329

You still seem confused ... DU is not the US judicial system. JoePhilly Mar 2012 #346

What I want is SCOTUS to overturn these horrible stand your ground laws. Initech Mar 2012 #167

The intent of the SYG law is so that a home owner does not have to be backed into a corner... L0oniX Mar 2012 #173

You're confused pokerfan Mar 2012 #189

I am? The original question was "Is anyone really innocent before proven guilty anymore?" L0oniX Mar 2012 #195

Yes pokerfan Mar 2012 #202

Whatever ...if you want to find someone guilty before an arrest and trial that's your thing. L0oniX Mar 2012 #221

WTF? Where did I say anything of the sort? pokerfan Mar 2012 #234

I think you'll find most DUers wanted him arrested, not executed on site. Bruce Wayne Mar 2012 #190

But I can imagine the law will be interpreted very differently in the trial. Initech Mar 2012 #200

an excellent question to pose to George Zimmerman at his trial for murder. Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #168

well said renate Mar 2012 #183

Not in this case.. butterfly77 Mar 2012 #180

Yes. I do want to hang George Zimmerman right now. Actually, I want to imprison him forever. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #192

ohreally? I haven't seen a single post stating that. Link? yardwork Mar 2012 #194

The question "Is anyone really innocent before proven guilty anymore?" doesn't need a link. L0oniX Mar 2012 #199

THIS is why we need the unrec button...nt joeybee12 Mar 2012 #203

Yes, we need to discourage and eliminate ALL personal observations... BeHereNow Mar 2012 #205

The OP was neither productive or logical... joeybee12 Mar 2012 #210

Well thank you for clarifying what my perceptions should be. BeHereNow Mar 2012 #212

we see through the BS... sorry fascisthunter Mar 2012 #240

I would like you to elaborate what you mean. BeHereNow Mar 2012 #242

Crickets...as I expected. BeHereNow Mar 2012 #244

With over 200 replies in this thread, you're the only one defending the OP Son of Gob Mar 2012 #237

Have you READ the replies? BeHereNow Mar 2012 #239

You certainly know a thing or two about projection. Son of Gob Mar 2012 #246

I'm calling this thread, or what it has become, exactly what it is. BeHereNow Mar 2012 #249

More crickets... BeHereNow Mar 2012 #245

Yes, your responses have been embarrassing. Son of Gob Mar 2012 #248

WHAT? What did you just say? BeHereNow Mar 2012 #250

I don't believe for a minute that you have read this thread or my posts on it. BeHereNow Mar 2012 #251

I don't know Son of Gob Mar 2012 #255

No, you don't get to play that card... too vague. BeHereNow Mar 2012 #257

Nary of the plenty are here backing you up Son of Gob Mar 2012 #260

Not to worry- they will. BeHereNow Mar 2012 #269

Very humorous Son of Gob Mar 2012 #288

Oh really? You are not keeping up SOG. BeHereNow Mar 2012 #289

So you like being part of the mob huh and because it is a majority it must be right too? L0oniX Mar 2012 #281

Yes Aerows Mar 2012 #211

Trial? There are people put on trial for crimes? just1voice Mar 2012 #216

EPIC FAIL. Rex Mar 2012 #241

The EPIC FAIL is your knee jerk reaction and failure to respond to the question... L0oniX Mar 2012 #261

No you failed miserably, the fact that you don't see it in your own thread Rex Mar 2012 #344

Wow...look at all these posts. The Midway Rebel Mar 2012 #252

Are you calling the OP a troll? BeHereNow Mar 2012 #254

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #256

And WHAT, exactly, do you mean by that? Are YOU calling ME a troll? BeHereNow Mar 2012 #258

You've certainly accumulated plenty of rope in this thread. Son of Gob Mar 2012 #259

And you have YET to back up any of your insinuations about me. BeHereNow Mar 2012 #262

Back up? Son of Gob Mar 2012 #265

I can attest that "BeHereNow" is NOT a troll. William769 Mar 2012 #279

Thank you William... BeHereNow Mar 2012 #282

BHN is not a troll Marrah_G Mar 2012 #333

Son of Gob - I have never seen you or your user id truedelphi Mar 2012 #343

Don't be silly, elleng Mar 2012 #276

Thanks Ellen... BeHereNow Mar 2012 #283

Read this thread Son of Gob Mar 2012 #292

+1 L0oniX Mar 2012 #317

careful there, Sonny Whisp Mar 2012 #293

Read the thread Son of Gob Mar 2012 #295

Thanks Whisp... BeHereNow Mar 2012 #313

People can disagree without being trolls, Son of Gob. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #302

Someone is a troll, AND they have a partner, because they have a POV YOU do not agree with? sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #270

Very few have accually wanted to discuss issues involving the question. L0oniX Mar 2012 #273

First, I didn't call anyone a Troll, so save it. Son of Gob Mar 2012 #277

Well, that's an assumption. I am not a mind reader so I have to take the OP at face value. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #308

Thank you for reflecting the standard a good discussion board should have. L0oniX Mar 2012 #332

For a newbie that is some nerve nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #274

What charges? Son of Gob Mar 2012 #280

In your imagination nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #286

That is not true at all Son of Gob Mar 2012 #290

So NOW, you are backing off of your insinuations about me? BeHereNow Mar 2012 #298

You're really proving the point on everything I've said in this thread. Son of Gob Mar 2012 #301

Everything you've said has nothing to do with the original question I asked. L0oniX Mar 2012 #319

+1 Nadin... BeHereNow Mar 2012 #304

Thanks Nadin... BeHereNow Mar 2012 #294

If you are calling BHN a troll I would like to know where you have gotten Grateful for Hope Mar 2012 #296

Read the thread before joining the pile up Son of Gob Mar 2012 #299

SOG was thinking his insinuations about me and Loon would go unnoticed by our community. BeHereNow Mar 2012 #300

+1 L0oniX Mar 2012 #323

...and what does that have to do with the question... L0oniX Mar 2012 #264

Obvious Troll is Obvious RetroLounge Mar 2012 #253

I guess you are incapable of discussing issues involving the question... L0oniX Mar 2012 #266

No Son of Gob Mar 2012 #267

And your vast experience and years on DU lead you to believe so? BeHereNow Mar 2012 #271

No, but RL and numerous others seem to agree Son of Gob Mar 2012 #272

Apparently your mob rules. I'd rather be on a lonely island than stand with those... L0oniX Mar 2012 #275

This is a message board, not the US court system Son of Gob Mar 2012 #284

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #315

Did Trayvon unionworks Mar 2012 #297

How would you like to have the US court system presum you to be guilty before you can prove... L0oniX Mar 2012 #321

the poster IS discussing the original question. Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #335

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #310

Irony evades you ...you have nothing to discuss pertaining to the question originally asked... L0oniX Mar 2012 #316

... RetroLounge Mar 2012 #338

loon got root Mar 2012 #285

Sawp? L0oniX Mar 2012 #320

Looks like a lot of people want to hang him now rather than wait for a trial Herlong Mar 2012 #287

ah, but he doesn't matter Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #291

Only if the accused is a minority. sikorsky Mar 2012 #303

poor poor whites... as a white man, you embarrass me fascisthunter Mar 2012 #341

Seriously, the blood thirst on this thread is fucked up johnnie Mar 2012 #305

Sure. Broderick Mar 2012 #306

Who was Treyvon's judge for the crime of walking to the store? Zimmerman! workinclasszero Mar 2012 #309

Another one who doesn't respond to the original question ...thanks for adding to the discussion... L0oniX Mar 2012 #330

4772 views, 310 replies, only 3 sad recs RetroLounge Mar 2012 #311

Ah so DU is nothing but a rec contest to you ...instead of it being a discussion board. L0oniX Mar 2012 #322

is this an example of what you consider to be good 'discussion'? Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #326

You should ask the member that is into rec counts. L0oniX Mar 2012 #328

I asked you- Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #331

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Mar 2012 #334

Obvious Troll is afraid of bad words? RetroLounge Mar 2012 #339

Oh, I'll wait for a trial. varelse Mar 2012 #312

Your thread has convinced me I should say... MrMickeysMom Mar 2012 #324

This thread is an example... Oilwellian Mar 2012 #337

Of course he deserves a trial. AngryOldDem Mar 2012 #342