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seabeyond

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85. i think our generation got to watch mothers and fathers walk this....

Tue Mar 4, 2014, 01:19 PM

Mar 2014

really for the first time in this obsessiveness and saw so much yukky, damaging, hurtful behavior. and being reflective, and having women discuss it over the last decade, gave us women a wonderful starting point. abso fuckin lutely. and i do not think i have been able to put it together until you post.

hence the other two replying, show me the so do not get it. not talking about what they are talking about. talking about MEN (and especially the last couple years of MILF and porn(always presenting women as sexual things and they looking)) being taught that our sole role is to be attractive for men. our role as girls our sole purpose of being attractive for ALL men. our duty. responsibility, lmao. and walking on stage every single fuckin day and presenting ourselves. now, i exaggerate, but only some, to get message across.

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It's let's humiliate women day :-) [View all] BBR Esq Mar 2014 OP

Women in the media have a hard time aging no matter how they handle it gollygee Mar 2014 #1

You think it's so easy for women NOT in the media? Demeter Mar 2014 #16

Didn't say that gollygee Mar 2014 #31

You are right and I think we women can counter that. Decline societies definitions of us. tavalon Mar 2014 #64

what an astounding heart filled... celebratory awesome post. lol. you go, woman. seabeyond Mar 2014 #68

May I just say, I think you are a beautiful woman...wonderful story of true empowerment. Drew Richards Mar 2014 #100

Hell yeah! bravenak Mar 2014 #101

I LOVE this post! Spazito Mar 2014 #107

would you consider posting this as its own OP so that we can rec it?? niyad Mar 2014 #108

Best Post Of The Year. I don't care if it is just March. Tavalon! Testify! Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #122

When you turn 50 as a woman, you become invisible fasttense Mar 2014 #41

It's like losing a special power, I think. JNelson6563 Mar 2014 #48

Yeah, I was kind of thinking that fasttense Mar 2014 #99

That's one of my favorite parts about being 50 tavalon Mar 2014 #66

Welcome to aging AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #88

I've been married to the same woman for more than a couple of decades. She's well over 50, and ... 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #102

You are a pearl among men Demeter Mar 2014 #104

Love is blind. n/t fasttense Mar 2014 #118

who cares? Skittles Mar 2014 #113

It's like being that kid in high school that everyone called a nasty name. fasttense Mar 2014 #119

I know I am an outlier but Skittles Mar 2014 #121

thank you bbr and gollygee for the two perspectives. it is sad. i really think, so sad. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #2

That THIS guy would criticize anyone's looks... BBR Esq Mar 2014 #4

oh goddess, i so know. i mean. i see the ugliest criticizing women. and i really do not seabeyond Mar 2014 #5

Yup. Like Rush Limbaugh saying Michelle Obama has a big butt. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #45

yes. and these men have gotta know what fools they sound. and they do not care. they gotta know.. seabeyond Mar 2014 #51

I would rather HAVE a ... 3catwoman3 Mar 2014 #57

I thought the whole thing was rather sad JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #3

Used the insecure ones and destroyed them. BBR Esq Mar 2014 #6

Hollywood stinks of "Dirty Laundry." Some like to sniff it. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #7

How wonderful that we've got it down to one day! WhiteTara Mar 2014 #8

Thank you. BBR Esq Mar 2014 #9

See you around! This is a great WhiteTara Mar 2014 #11

Thanks again. BBR Esq Mar 2014 #14

I think women are treated dreadfully by Hollywood. sibelian Mar 2014 #10

Some people are better at hiding their insecurities. BBR Esq Mar 2014 #13

Uh,it makes me sick just reading that. sufrommich Mar 2014 #12

Thank you. Thank you, sufrommich. Thank you. raven mad Mar 2014 #15

I agree. Why were people so gleefully sniping about her? Very dissappointed with them, so glad to... marble falls Mar 2014 #23

I take note that when Kirk Douglas,who's sufrommich Mar 2014 #32

It's amazing that some people still manage to think that men face the same pressures, redqueen Mar 2014 #36

Yep. nt sufrommich Mar 2014 #37

Actually, they face different pressures tavalon Mar 2014 #70

are you kidding. and if sex DEFINING men and all of who they are is not restrictive, i do not know seabeyond Mar 2014 #86

And there is still the "money defines the man" tavalon Mar 2014 #111

Oh yes, I was just referring to appearance. redqueen Mar 2014 #97

Then beauty is its own excuse for being (RWEmerson): WinkyDink Mar 2014 #17

And not one word EC Mar 2014 #18

matthew who? not that i watched or know any of the characters. but i LOVE when i can applaud seabeyond Mar 2014 #20

Matthew McConaughey.. n/t EC Mar 2014 #21

no way. lol. i thought might be him, he is real vain, but i have also seen that in him. story seabeyond Mar 2014 #25

So, he stayed in Texas tavalon Mar 2014 #71

he moved to amarillo. lol. might have a place in austin... do not know. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #77

Matthew McConneghy JaneyVee Mar 2014 #22

thank you. was telling the poster above. he lives in our town. seabeyond Mar 2014 #27

He was just lovely to her JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #24

ahhhhh. i LUV. that is the best. really. man... makes me love the guy more. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #26

forget his face. what about that HAIR??? and it sounded like he stumbled over the name of the niyad Mar 2014 #38

yeah, he did get hit on the pronunciation of the name EC Mar 2014 #49

Travolta looks awful. So does Novak. bigwillq Mar 2014 #56

I thought the comments and tweets were so mean? WTF is wrong.... Logical Mar 2014 #59

Yeah they don't start on the men treestar Mar 2014 #75

Nor about John Travolta's vampire wig fake hair Arugula Latte Mar 2014 #103

I can only hope at 81, I look that good blackspade Mar 2014 #19

I'd rather look like I'm 81. winter is coming Mar 2014 #30

You missed my point entirely.... blackspade Mar 2014 #39

Agreed. bullsnarfle Mar 2014 #42

Or this guy. BBR Esq Mar 2014 #54

Damn it, put warning labels tavalon Mar 2014 #76

Totally agree, usually the surgery makes them look treestar Mar 2014 #78

Agreed. Old age doesn't mean you can't aspire to look Cleita Mar 2014 #52

Kim has more class in one hair on her head than those Whisp Mar 2014 #28

Kim Novak is a fellow Oregonian, her film work was wonderful and I like her paintings Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #29

Wow, she is frogmarch Mar 2014 #58

Unfortunately it's often women themselves Brainstormy Mar 2014 #33

If you are interested.. you may want to read this: boston bean Mar 2014 #34

Pinatas mrchips Mar 2014 #35

let's see- she is an actress, a poet, a photographer, an artist who paints, sculpts and works in niyad Mar 2014 #40

Well said. nt sufrommich Mar 2014 #43

Thanks for the info. Beacool Mar 2014 #44

you are welcome. she is indeed a most accomplished woman. one of the posts above links to niyad Mar 2014 #50

i did not know all that stuff. nor really know anything about her. and wow. and ya. i hear ya. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #60

I Find It Sad RobinA Mar 2014 #92

agreed Skittles Mar 2014 #112

K & R SunSeeker Mar 2014 #46

Not sure I understand the dismay here. randome Mar 2014 #47

What's really sad is that women feel like they can't just look 81. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2014 #53

Many can AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #55

I wonder how the women who had botched jobs feel? leftyladyfrommo Mar 2014 #61

I agree AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #65

Most face lifts take six to eight hours. Cleita Mar 2014 #89

i was thinkin' about this thread. i am bone weary tired of the role of being attractive seabeyond Mar 2014 #62

Some women just don't care AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #67

you do not know wtf you are talking about. a man lecturing me on this. you really seabeyond Mar 2014 #69

lol AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #79

It would be hard to have aged prematurely. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2014 #72

"Maybe we should all just wear bags over our heads".... or, just give all us "done with it" seabeyond Mar 2014 #80

Or maybe we should age gracefully AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #81

A lot of young women also age prematurely from too much sun tanning. Cleita Mar 2014 #94

Maybe that's the problem. You are making yourself attractive for men Cleita Mar 2014 #73

no. that is not "the" or "a" problem. seabeyond Mar 2014 #82

I believe AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #83

Amen! tavalon Mar 2014 #84

i think our generation got to watch mothers and fathers walk this.... seabeyond Mar 2014 #85

So Reject RobinA Mar 2014 #87

true. ok. so? nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #90

I don't think it's all that easy to reject that role. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2014 #105

" so ingrained from the time we are just little girls." that it is. and why i think it is so seabeyond Mar 2014 #106

Good luck getting the men to look at it. leftyladyfrommo Mar 2014 #114

i think, with the constant pornification of our girls, all women that walk into public, it is seabeyond Mar 2014 #115

I think I'm an old fogy leftyladyfrommo Mar 2014 #117

Received Dogma RobinA Mar 2014 #120

I don't think you are taking into account the career pressure placed on these Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #93

Even Meryl Streep has had work. She admits it. Cleita Mar 2014 #96

in "the first wives club", goldie hawn's character, an actress who has just had collagen injections niyad Mar 2014 #109

Yep. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #110

I loved her as Stifler's mom Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #63

That wasn't Kim Novak. MineralMan Mar 2014 #116

Kick! Heidi Mar 2014 #74

My 11 y.o. grandson asked, "Who is that?"..I answered "That is a photo of me when I was a teenager." Tikki Mar 2014 #91

I find it very sad. She loves to paint elderly folks... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #95

I'd rather celebrate a rather gifted, wonderful person. longship Mar 2014 #98