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Hissyspit

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Sat Mar 8, 2014, 10:54 PM Mar 2014

AP: Why Malaysia Airlines Jet Might Have Disappeared [View all]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/why-malaysia-airlines-jet-might-have-disappeared

WHY MALAYSIA AIRLINES JET MIGHT HAVE DISAPPEARED
By SCOTT MAYEROWITZ
— Mar. 8, 2014 8:07 PM EST

NEW YORK (AP) — The most dangerous parts of a flight are takeoff and landing. Rarely do incidents happen when a plane is cruising seven miles above the earth.

So the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jet well into its flight Saturday morning over the South China Sea has led aviation experts to assume that whatever happened was quick and left the pilots no time to place a distress call.

It could take investigators months, if not years, to determine what happened to the Boeing 777 flying from Malaysia's largest city of Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

"At this early stage, we're focusing on the facts that we don't know," said Todd Curtis, a former safety engineer with Boeing who worked on its 777 wide-body jets and is now director of the Airsafe.com Foundation.

If there was a minor mechanical failure — or even something more serious like the shutdown of both of the plane's engines — the pilots likely would have had time to radio for help. The lack of a call "suggests something very sudden and very violent happened," said William Waldock, who teaches accident investigation at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Prescott, Ariz.

It initially appears that there was either an abrupt breakup of the plane or something that led it into a quick, steep dive. Some experts even suggested an act of terrorism or a pilot purposely crashing the jet.

"Either you had a catastrophic event that tore the airplane apart, or you had a criminal act," said Scott Hamilton, managing director of aviation consultancy Leeham Co. "It was so quick and they didn't radio."

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Any meteor sightings? Even one the size of a golf ball could wreck the plane. JaneyVee Mar 2014 #1
This is so strange.. those poor People. May Cha Mar 2014 #2
Passport Theft Adds to Mystery of Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet. elleng Mar 2014 #3
Based on the recent events in western China, terrorism is a definite possibility. However, in most lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #4
That's the part that bothers me. calimary Mar 2014 #12
The two passengers checked in together and both were heading for Amsterdam malaise Mar 2014 #46
Grasping at straws to blame anyone but themselves seattledo Mar 2014 #5
What do you think happened? Lex Mar 2014 #6
Why would you say that? A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #7
Because it's an ususual mode of failure. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #28
+1, n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #29
That doesn't address the comment in post 5 A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #40
I don't think I followed the comment chain correctly. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #42
You said this in another thread. Why would you think the company would be responsible for a "very WinkyDink Mar 2014 #9
But usually the terrorist group wants recognition. Lex Mar 2014 #11
Who says it's a group? WinkyDink Mar 2014 #49
The point is exactly the same whether one Lex Mar 2014 #60
Ok,genius, what is your prediction so I can bookmark it. nt Logical Mar 2014 #16
There are extremely few... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #24
Who are "themselves"? Jenoch Mar 2014 #47
It's a Boeing but seems to be an older model 777 not the Dreamliner KoKo Mar 2014 #8
I think you may be confusing the 777 with the 787. It was the 787 that had the battery problems. nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #18
I think you should read KoKo's post again... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #43
Oh, okay got it. Thanks nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #44
No flash was seen dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #10
A Small Explosion, Like A Shoe Bomb, Likely Would Not Produce A Detectible Flash DallasNE Mar 2014 #35
Instant depressurization requires a big hole Major Nikon Mar 2014 #48
See this... Agschmid Mar 2014 #56
I'm familiar with it Major Nikon Mar 2014 #57
Just grabbed this off of Twitter. octoberlib Mar 2014 #13
Might be a dumb question but mokawanis Mar 2014 #14
They are searching a massive area and don't know exactly where it impacted. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #15
Thank you for that information mokawanis Mar 2014 #17
One of the safety experts said that if the plane broke up in the air the debris field could be okaawhatever Mar 2014 #22
500 mph at 35,000 feet go west young man Mar 2014 #33
Fuel tank explosion like TWA 800! nt Logical Mar 2014 #19
Sudden disappearance over water is rare, but it happened in the early days of the Comet FarCenter Mar 2014 #20
It happened just a few years ago with Air France 447. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #21
In that case, there was very bad weather; in this case, flying conditions were fine. FarCenter Mar 2014 #23
Actually, 447 crashed due to pilot error combined with mechanical malfunction... Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #30
Why not "Ask The Pilot"? - Patrick Smith DinahMoeHum Mar 2014 #25
here's a list of possibilities: Deep13 Mar 2014 #26
How and why Lex Mar 2014 #31
gravity nt Deep13 Mar 2014 #36
How a plane crashed = gravity? Lex Mar 2014 #39
What can I say, I'm a Renaissance man. Deep13 Mar 2014 #62
Like Steven Wright? "The sign said 'Breakfast Anytime', so I asked for eggs during the Renaissance." WinkyDink Mar 2014 #65
Sarah Palin, is that you? WinkyDink Mar 2014 #50
She doesn't believe in gravity because it is only a theory. nt Deep13 Mar 2014 #63
To crash something needs to get in the way. There aren't many hard objects in the sky. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #58
yup, then it runs into the ground or sea. nt Deep13 Mar 2014 #61
What is strange is that if there was a mid-air explosion over water onenote Mar 2014 #27
A large swath of ocean Lex Mar 2014 #32
Did this happen in one of the "Bermuda Triangle" areas? RoverSuswade Mar 2014 #34
Maybe an invisible flying big foot from a UFO pulled it down. longship Mar 2014 #37
I was thinking that.... Madam Mossfern Mar 2014 #52
@AP: BREAKING: Malaysian air force chief says radar indicates missing Boeing 777 may have turned bac Hissyspit Mar 2014 #38
So now they're searching on the west coast of Malaysia, too. countryjake Mar 2014 #41
Seems to me it could be xfundy Mar 2014 #45
Recall the passenger list from the Chicago crash many years ago... PCIntern Mar 2014 #51
Malaysia Airlines has good safety record and is a fine airline mainer Mar 2014 #53
A few years back a 777 lost all nav and radio due to coffee spill AngryAmish Mar 2014 #54
The "text message type thingy" sounds like the transponder Major Nikon Mar 2014 #59
Putin FreeJoe Mar 2014 #55
Sarah Palin and Linseed Graham are already blaming.... RoverSuswade Mar 2014 #64
According to some in the Extreme CT camp Tsiyu Mar 2014 #66
The BBC is reporting some debris sightings (apparently a door has been spotted) anneboleyn Mar 2014 #67
They did find a door which looks like a cabin door Tsiyu Mar 2014 #68
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