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longship

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13. I don't think he's very credible.

Sun Mar 9, 2014, 02:08 PM

Mar 2014

There is a reason why what he says is being attacked, and not just on DU. It's because he's making stuff up.

So he's got that going for him.

I prefer to pay attention to the scientists making the actual measurements.

I agree with the OP. We need to keep up on this, but it is not likely a big issue. Meanwhile, Gundersen continues his fear mongering, which is what he does. He has no credibility.

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Scientists: Test West Coast for Fukushima radiation [View all] pintobean Mar 2014 OP

I live on the Oregon coast Faux pas Mar 2014 #1

I'll assume you haven't contracted goiter Brother Buzz Mar 2014 #4

Potassium iodide is only for a worst case scenario for airborne iodine-133 flamingdem Mar 2014 #8

Drink miso soup, too. CrispyQ Mar 2014 #9

I didn't click on your links but... PearliePoo2 Mar 2014 #17

Like soup helps cure radiation sickness? longship Mar 2014 #37

There is no immediate danger RobertEarl Mar 2014 #75

When the source is radioactive iodine it does whopis01 Mar 2014 #77

The half life of iodine 131 is very short. longship Mar 2014 #11

You don't need to take potassium iodide, and you may make yourself sick doing it Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #16

Read all the posts replying to your intake of iodine. PearliePoo2 Mar 2014 #18

"been taking iodine since Fukushima". Why?...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #62

That's not very wise, as many have told you already. The State of Oregon regularly Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #92

so many opportunities for normal accidents/disasters reddread Mar 2014 #2

Arnie Gundersen is the best on this issue flamingdem Mar 2014 #10

I don't think he's very credible. longship Mar 2014 #13

What has he made up? Octafish Mar 2014 #21

He has made up lots of things zappaman Mar 2014 #29

Did you mix up your login? From your, uh, source... Octafish Mar 2014 #31

So you dismiss the guy with actual credentials Union Scribe Mar 2014 #35

I'd rather listen to somebody who doesn't have a stake in the game. Octafish Mar 2014 #38

Then stop listening to Arnie Union Scribe Mar 2014 #40

$300 an hour? Octafish Mar 2014 #43

What does that matter? He's got "skin in the game" Union Scribe Mar 2014 #44

Gunderson's not on TEPCO's payroll. Octafish Mar 2014 #46

+1 ! flamingdem Mar 2014 #52

rationalwiki! Rex Mar 2014 #58

Wow, quite the hit piece. eggplant Mar 2014 #41

rationalwiki is dead give away questionseverything Mar 2014 #53

His qualifications, for one thing. Union Scribe Mar 2014 #34

That must be why he gets called on as an expert witness. Octafish Mar 2014 #36

So, no actual rebuttal. Union Scribe Mar 2014 #39

What rebuttal? Octafish Mar 2014 #42

If misrepresenting one's training isn't lying Union Scribe Mar 2014 #47

So where does he misrepresent himself? Octafish Mar 2014 #48

Guess you missed it zappaman Mar 2014 #56

He's basically just being alarmist Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #67

Good post, but I have to address this: NuclearDem Mar 2014 #71

Now that is embarrassing. You are on a roll!! RobertEarl Mar 2014 #73

And that, ladies and gentlemen, NuclearDem Mar 2014 #76

...again CreekDog Mar 2014 #97

You're talking to a profession founded on a Big Lie... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #83

I really hope you have some proof of me having ties to the industry NuclearDem Mar 2014 #84

you <> "a profession" Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #85

So, you'd rather trust RE's "pronouncements on science" NuclearDem Mar 2014 #86

I've been involved PERSONALLY in the issue since 1974.... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #87

This bs part, makes your whole post stink, Yo RobertEarl Mar 2014 #74

Holy crap Batman! greiner3 Mar 2014 #25

A degree in physics. longship Mar 2014 #26

Just so we can compare expertiese... zeemike Mar 2014 #51

He has only operated a 100 watt research reactor. longship Mar 2014 #54

Some people just hate whistle blowers. zeemike Mar 2014 #59

The issue is where the science stands, not any one person. longship Mar 2014 #61

Well science knows that all radiation is harmful to living cells zeemike Mar 2014 #65

Science also knows about dose/response. longship Mar 2014 #66

And not all radiation is the same. zeemike Mar 2014 #68

No, but a west coast salmon would be tasty. longship Mar 2014 #69

Make sure it is not a Sockeye salmon. zeemike Mar 2014 #72

"Range" is where they are found, not that they all migrate that far. uppityperson Mar 2014 #82

Monopoly on Science (tm) Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #80

And the shill gambit. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #49

Like anyone would sign THOSE timecards... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #81

Agree with you. LeftOfWest Mar 2014 #30

He is attacked here, and many other places... longship Mar 2014 #50

40 yrs. experience knocked down by vague insults... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #79

Dude, who is your source? RobertEarl Mar 2014 #88

If Gunderson ever, by chance, came here unannounced and held a Q&A... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #89

I can picture the scattering RobertEarl Mar 2014 #90

If only Tepco listened to him and, while they could, rerouted the mountain spring water.... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #91

Y'know, when you think about it.... RobertEarl Mar 2014 #93

And counterproductive. That reroute would have been a hell of a lot cheaper... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #94

Yep. Arnie is the Real Deal... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #78

Think of all the radiation in the atmosphere cilla4progress Mar 2014 #3

another big win for Fresno reddread Mar 2014 #5

The Fresno Raisin Council should exploit this Brother Buzz Mar 2014 #7

Is that airborne? That isn't the concern now - it's precipitation flamingdem Mar 2014 #12

that is simply one of the highest, possibly the highest result from all monitors reddread Mar 2014 #14

Wha---THEY HAVEN"T DONE THAT YET???!!! librechik Mar 2014 #6

There hasn't been any to test yet. C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Mar 2014 #15

Actually, they have Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #19

thx, hard to believe nobody took the time... librechik Mar 2014 #20

It's already being done n2doc Mar 2014 #22

park ranger told me year ago kelp medeak Mar 2014 #28

Yup! A park ranger with a PhD in physics, no doubt. longship Mar 2014 #45

REMEMBER! It's not like the source and spigot has been shut off. PearliePoo2 Mar 2014 #23

Yes, that's why this scientist can't be sure we're "safe" flamingdem Mar 2014 #55

Any word on Alaskan sea food testing? ffr Mar 2014 #24

tons of pieces of bamboo on beach after big storm two days ago medeak Mar 2014 #27

Aren't they a little late to the party? Cleita Mar 2014 #32

How will you know it's safe? sulphurdunn Mar 2014 #33

Or you can pay attention to the science. longship Mar 2014 #57

I didn't get the impression sulphurdunn Mar 2014 #63

That's likely true. longship Mar 2014 #64

I agree of course. sulphurdunn Mar 2014 #96

There's no need to test. I read that right here on DU. No mention of any downside to testing. Scuba Mar 2014 #60

DU rec frwrfpos Mar 2014 #70

Woods Holes Crowdsourced ourradioactiveocean One_Life_To_Give Mar 2014 #95