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ProSense

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23. Pure BS.

Sun Mar 9, 2014, 04:15 PM

Mar 2014

And again, you see this as pretty much only a geopolitical struggle. Nobody is saying that Putin in crimea is the "right thing". It is simply understandable and a reaction to what is going on in Kiev.

Things can't be unwound unless something **both** sides are represented realistically. This is not cleanly 'about Putin'. And by whitewashing what happened in Kiev Putin's hand is actually strengthened.

And the current narrative is particulary unfair and damaging to half the country. Who has to live with the consequences.

This is nonsense. You're inventing a narrative that the pro-Putin pieces you're posting is out of concern for the rest of the people of Ukraine?

What's the fear mongering supposed to mean? Do you think Russia is going to create a safe haven for dissent and equality?

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What we're told about (the overthrow) bears only the sketchiest relationship with reality (Guardian) [View all] newthinking Mar 2014 OP

And why should I trust this report as opposed to any others? SomethingFishy Mar 2014 #1

You shouldn't. In this climate you must read multiple sources newthinking Mar 2014 #2

"Multiple"? This is ProSense Mar 2014 #4

That would be quite funny if it were coming from someone known for pushing a single viewpoint newthinking Mar 2014 #10

Yeah, you're just trying to be 'fair and balanced' by offering the pro-Putin "viewpoint." ProSense Mar 2014 #13

Well, if not supporting neo-nazi's is in opposition to your viewpoint..... newthinking Mar 2014 #17

Putin is against Nazis in Ukraine, but he loves them in Russia ProSense Mar 2014 #19

Nazi's are in the executive branch in Kiev - Over their military!!! newthinking Mar 2014 #21

Pure BS. ProSense Mar 2014 #23

So you won't AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #38

Please ProSense Mar 2014 #40

So are you denying that Andriy Parubiy is in charge of Defense? newthinking Mar 2014 #39

Crickets again newthinking Mar 2014 #44

Hey...this complex geopolitical chess game is EASY (if you have a binary mind). bvar22 Mar 2014 #46

So what credible sources would you recommend? n/t sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #22

So what about it? nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #43

Well, right here at DU, we have plenty of posters who have lived there, or have family there, quinnox Mar 2014 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author newthinking Mar 2014 #7

Let's just say I take stuff like that with a large grain of salt quinnox Mar 2014 #9

Russians and Ukrainians are a fairly large minority in the US newthinking Mar 2014 #14

People who are from Ukraine or somehow connected to Ukraine are just as likely to have an agenda Fumesucker Mar 2014 #27

True. Likelier, really. cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #28

Just for when we have something explode in mexico nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #37

I believe that you and I are the only people anywhere who do not know what is going on. pangaia Mar 2014 #5

I would go with the "admit it" part.. SomethingFishy Mar 2014 #8

I don't quite buy the bullshit whine "Waaaah, the President was elected in a fair election..." MADem Mar 2014 #6

Note that the OP commentary is ProSense Mar 2014 #11

Well, it stunk like horse shit no matter when it was written! MADem Mar 2014 #12

Right, and the PMs on the west were not corrupt? Corruption is endemic there newthinking Mar 2014 #16

Oh please--you're hanging it all out, here. MADem Mar 2014 #18

I have only made two comments about Putin and his actions newthinking Mar 2014 #24

Try and brush it off. Rex Mar 2014 #25

Thanks Rex newthinking Mar 2014 #33

Nothing good comes from it, unless you're bored. bemildred Mar 2014 #41

The quotation is from "The Boxer, " not "Baby Driver" alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #47

You are correct. bemildred Mar 2014 #48

Why have you doctored the headline, and tried to pass off an old article as new, MADem Mar 2014 #32

Why wait until May to have an election? We have no idea what a majority of Ukrainians think about sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #26

Dubya wasn't even "elected" it was more like an appointment by the SCOTUS Fumesucker Mar 2014 #29

That's true--he was selected. MADem Mar 2014 #31

Arguably Dubya was worse than Nixon Fumesucker Mar 2014 #35

Different situations erpowers Mar 2014 #49

Indeed. He also didn't expropriate tens of billions from the treasury and live in obscene luxury. MADem Mar 2014 #53

I suspect it might have something to do with the 37 billion he stole alarimer Mar 2014 #15

Your headline is doctored, and the article is from January cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #20

This is not "late breaking news" newthinking Mar 2014 #30

Oh. Seumus Milne again... SidDithers Mar 2014 #34

DU rec frwrfpos Mar 2014 #36

"The Ukrainian faultline has the potential to draw in outside powers and lead to a strategic clash." Catherina Mar 2014 #42

The UK Guardian is my #1 source malaise Mar 2014 #45

Thank you for the post Mr. Putin. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2014 #50

rec. 840high Mar 2014 #51

Seumas claims the protestors are "fascists" Kolesar Mar 2014 #52