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brett_jv

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18. It could've been Putin ...
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 04:36 PM
Mar 2014

But it's also a CIA-style move as well. Sending in anonymous snipers (esp. those that take out individuals on both sides, not sure if that happened in this case or not) to shoot into government protesters is a tried-and-true tactic from the ol' spook playbook. Always good for helping 'take things up a notch', and perhaps foment an actual revolution ...

And given that CLEARLY the people who are now in charge of Ukraine are far more amenable to Western/EU/NATO/IMF interests than Yanucovych (or however you spell it, he was def. leaning towards the Bear for support), I don't personally see any reason to believe MORE strongly that Putin was behind the snipers anymore than I'd suspect agents from Western Intelligence.

If Europe ends up getting it's NG supply from Russia cut off due to the actions presently afoot, and the USA magically comes to their rescue with it's shiny new terminals shipping away our 'excess' fracked LNG, which is now a political sticking point but may become unstuck if Europe is suddenly in the dark and cold ... let's just say, I'll become even more suspicious w/regards to just who those snipers ... actually were.

In any case, the better informed we become w/regards to who these new leaders actually ARE in Ukraine, the more accurately we can form our opinions with regards to which 'side' we really should be on here. I, for one, was happy to read a 'balancing' piece w/that of Snyder's (which I read earlier in the week), since I honestly don't know WHAT/WHO to actually believe ... but I'm keen to understand what's going on and who the players all are.

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k&r Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #1
K&R for "nuance" and critical deals of how and why things happened newthinking Mar 2014 #2
Most ProSense Mar 2014 #3
Well okay, then, Svoboda is groovy because it is no longer "overtly anti-Semitic." Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #4
No one fucking said that. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #5
Maybe not "groovy," but not "so extreme." Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #12
Well, not in those exact words, but someone certainly did offer a 'nuanced' endorsement of them, sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #17
Neo-Nazi groups now have PR specialists- Seriously newthinking Mar 2014 #9
Pure BS, and hilarious coming from someone fear mongering in Putin's defense. ProSense Mar 2014 #10
I am not "in defense of Putin" newthinking Mar 2014 #25
Distraction. Igel Mar 2014 #6
The military-industrial-media complex lives. They will always push the jingoistic line. reformist2 Mar 2014 #7
Which is another, of many, good reasons for the US to stay the hell away from that mess. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #8
Do you want to laugh? $1 Billion isn't even enough to pay for 3 weeks of gas Catherina Mar 2014 #13
EU planning 11 billion in "aid" BelgianMadCow Mar 2014 #14
That too is laughable. That's less than a year's worth of gas bills Catherina Mar 2014 #15
The IMF will cough up the reminder BelgianMadCow Mar 2014 #16
They're going to have to cough up enough to pretend though (at first at least) Catherina Mar 2014 #24
Russia has ProSense Mar 2014 #26
That's exactly what it is 'a "troika" package to save the banks and strangle the people, paid for by sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #19
you're thinking of Papademos, I believe BelgianMadCow Mar 2014 #20
Yes, you are correct, I forgot about Italy too. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #22
That's bullshit. Far right has been acknowledged since beginning Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #11
It could've been Putin ... brett_jv Mar 2014 #18
FAIR G_j Mar 2014 #21
For a minute there I thought my ignore list failed Catherina Mar 2014 #27
I've been following them for years G_j Mar 2014 #28
recommend frwrfpos Mar 2014 #23
kick. Thanks for posting Catherina. +1 eom Purveyor Mar 2014 #29
Must Read malaise Mar 2014 #30
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