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63. The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.

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Mon Mar 17, 2014, 07:28 AM

Mar 2014

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No source for this quote among Orwell's writings has yet been located, and neither has any published source been found. Earliest source found on the Web was in a February 14, 2011, post from Jsnip4 on the RealistNews.net forum: [3]. Prior to that, an opinion piece by Selwyn Duke dated May 6, 2009, which includes an alleged quote from Orwell, had used these words in the final paragraph, but did not give them as a quote and did not attribute them to Orwell.[4][5]

http://www.realistnews.net/Thread-realist-news-was-the-capital-gains-tax-just-removed-regarding-bullion
http://www.conservativecrusader.com/articles/stopping-truth-at-the-border-banning-michael-savage-from-britain
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/duke/090506

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Orwell

People post all kinds of made-up shit on Facebook. Surely, a journalist wouldn't post something from Facebook without confirming it was accurate. Right?

Edit: bnw beat me to it upthread.

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George Orwell [View all] nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 OP

this could be a silent thread with lots of recs BelgianMadCow Mar 2014 #1

true nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #13

wow sad-cafe Mar 2014 #2

crunchy? hrmjustin Mar 2014 #5

using the OP's famous term sad-cafe Mar 2014 #7

I have never seen that. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #8

really? sad-cafe Mar 2014 #9

Maybe I just didn't notice. What did you version of crunchy mean? hrmjustin Mar 2014 #11

It predates The Great Mexico City Hail Storm pintobean Mar 2014 #16

oh I had forgotten that sad-cafe Mar 2014 #53

oh you have a list? hrmjustin Mar 2014 #55

That was before your time pintobean Mar 2014 #61

What was your DU screen name at that time? morningfog Mar 2014 #62

........ daleanime Mar 2014 #69

Heh, that explains the unmatched popularity of hippy punching Fumesucker Mar 2014 #3

They're really quite small in number n/t Oilwellian Mar 2014 #4

All the Republicans and 95% of the Democrats? Fumesucker Mar 2014 #6

"They" are small in number only if one doesn't count those who are jtuck004 Mar 2014 #10

The man understood the nature of society better than most. mountain grammy Mar 2014 #12

That he did nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #14

Orwell was a genius tea and oranges Mar 2014 #15

I have never seen or heard of this ending anywhere. Brigid Mar 2014 #37

Many people haven't tea and oranges Mar 2014 #42

OK, Brigid, Book in Hand (it wasn't hard to find after all) tea and oranges Mar 2014 #43

I have never seen a copy of 1984 that did not have the appendix whopis01 Mar 2014 #47

I'm sure you're right tea and oranges Mar 2014 #54

I have "The Principles of Newspeak" in my edition. Brigid Mar 2014 #52

Hardly Happy tea and oranges Mar 2014 #82

Thank you for this! (EOM) Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #77

My man Orwell Jack Rabbit Mar 2014 #17

He was indeed nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #18

K&R friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #19

Yep libodem Mar 2014 #20

I will have to go look for that, sounds fascinating nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #21

Kick and recommended zeemike Mar 2014 #22

Where would I find his essays? I read 1984 because my sister and her friends were required to jwirr Mar 2014 #30

Here is one place on line... zeemike Mar 2014 #35

Read my sig, Zee. Seeking Serenity Mar 2014 #34

And it is a hell of a good sig line too... zeemike Mar 2014 #36

I don't think the quote in the OP is actually Orwell. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #41

Searching it does come up as Orwell everywhere but things do spread like wildfire on the internet. cui bono Mar 2014 #79

That's an interesting quote. And proven to be true even here on DU. n/t cui bono Mar 2014 #75

Thanks, nadine... ReRe Mar 2014 #23

Yup nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #24

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #25

nope nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #27

Sure pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #28

Well, he might be such a very distant uncle nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #32

K&R Aerows Mar 2014 #26

So, what's the truth? Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #29

"Those dedicated to twisting the truth to suit their own purposes Aerows Mar 2014 #39

Problem is, how do you know which truth is correct? OnlinePoker Mar 2014 #31

Evolution = truth Doctor_J Mar 2014 #50

But we have to tell both sides. Otherwise it wouldn't be fair. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #59

One person says water is wet, the other says water is dry. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #67

Empirical evidence ... Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2014 #78

Read my sig. That's one of his quotes. Seeking Serenity Mar 2014 #33

Yup. I have read some of his early fiction nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #46

My wife will be adding this quote to a notebook she has that have all kinds of quotes she finds diabeticman Mar 2014 #38

Except it's not George Orwell.... Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #40

read 840high Mar 2014 #56

+1...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #68

Holy shit! That explains a few things. Watch for blind anger and vitriol. nt GoneFishin Mar 2014 #44

Some of us expect it anymore, sadly nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #45

, blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #48

K&R DeSwiss Mar 2014 #49

True, except people also hate falsehood. gulliver Mar 2014 #51

What, no kitty cat in that boat picture? LOL Corruption Inc Mar 2014 #57

K&R! What George said is becoming more obvious with every passing day. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #58

. Berlum Mar 2014 #60

The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those that speak it. SidDithers Mar 2014 #63

Once bitten, twice shy pintobean Mar 2014 #64

Called Orwell's base commander. Codeine Mar 2014 #65

SOP in these situations...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #70

My favorite, by far. Brickbat Mar 2014 #71

Unlikely a writer of his skills would ever say "those that speak it." Brickbat Mar 2014 #66

The head librarian in this town nilesobek Mar 2014 #72

The rewriting of history nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #76

The Two Minutes of Hate lasted all day yesterday. bvar22 Mar 2014 #73

It is funny that a quote about truth Progressive dog Mar 2014 #74

The content is gold no matter if Goofy said it. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #81

No It Isn't, it is meaningless Progressive dog Mar 2014 #84

K&R! colsohlibgal Mar 2014 #80

Good one! KamaAina Mar 2014 #83

Indeed. blackspade Mar 2014 #85

I think the argument then goes to "Who's Truth" demtenjeep Mar 2014 #86