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FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts) Sun Mar 25, 2012, 12:30 PM Mar 2012

WHY are they giving a man who probably has less than a decade left a perfectly good heart?! [View all]

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These are the same TheoCons that want to invoke God into everything, yet don't heed 'Gods will' or calling. That heart could have went to a 30 yr old with kids and a long life ahead of them. WHY WHY WHY?! Don't get me wrong, I wish EVERYONE could receive a new heart that needed one, but since it isn't possible why are we wasting a perfectly good one on someone that probably won't even live another 5-10 years?! Btw, isn't it a bit 'collectivist' to be granted a new heart and hypocritical on Cheney's part?

EDIT: Since ppl seem to be having a meltdown, my entire point is that not that he should be denied a transplant but that he should have turned one down and let someone else have it, and follow "Gods will". BUT of course we wouldn't expect a self-less act from a man who gets off sending other ppl to die.

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WHY are they giving a man who probably has less than a decade left a perfectly good heart?! [View all] FarLeftFist Mar 2012 OP

Medical Malpractice randr Mar 2012 #1

Death panels, anyone? Anyone? rustydog Mar 2012 #2

Yes I know the medical panels as well MattBaggins Mar 2012 #39

When Cheney had the artificial pump, for I guess 20 months, he traveled crunch60 Mar 2012 #68

He has a really good health insurance policy slackmaster Mar 2012 #3

Good morning children. Can you say "reject"? I knew you could. Lint Head Mar 2012 #4

Why don't they want all Americans to have Cheney type health care Johonny Mar 2012 #5

For me ... that is the most important question etherealtruth Mar 2012 #53

Are you always this upset at the idea of elderly transplant recipients? eShirl Mar 2012 #6

When they get special treatment over our citizens, yes. Get in line like everyone else. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #7

If he did indeed skip the line, I wonder why he didn't go for the transplant any sooner. eShirl Mar 2012 #11

He DID WAIT IN LINE. Read before you make a fool out of yourself. n/t K Gardner Mar 2012 #12

I think they read it but don't believe it. eShirl Mar 2012 #17

Really, tell that to my friends son who was laid to rest after 3yrs on that list. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #52

Really. Ask my husband how long he waited for each of his transplants. eShirl Mar 2012 #58

Average wait time is two years nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #32

I heard this morning average wait time for a heart laundry_queen Mar 2012 #54

UNOs cares little for money or connections nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #55

Duh. laundry_queen Mar 2012 #57

Well I know more than a few nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #59

Cheney, because of his power and money, was leakfrogged over hundreds of other crunch60 Mar 2012 #15

You need to PROVE that if you're going to assert it. Otherwise DU looks like K Gardner Mar 2012 #18

Funny. Rex Mar 2012 #36

Funny make that two nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #60

This is what I am talking about.. crunch60 Mar 2012 #61

How long was Chenney in the list? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #35

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This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Mar 2012 #42

I agree. My husband died at the age of 78 from kidney failure. Cleita Mar 2012 #8

My uncle's heart is failing. He's in his mid-80s. EFerrari Mar 2012 #13

He probably won't get one even if he wants one. Cleita Mar 2012 #16

Thanks, Cleita. EFerrari Mar 2012 #48

I was wondering the same thing. Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #9

Not really MattBaggins Mar 2012 #40

Oh god, people, PLEASE don't REC this thread.... K Gardner Mar 2012 #10

Well said. Thank you. randome Mar 2012 #14

Well said. Bluenorthwest Mar 2012 #20

I hope that's true tularetom Mar 2012 #23

some factors are: closest tissue "match," prognosis, time in waiting list eShirl Mar 2012 #27

As his cardiopathy got worst he was placed nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #37

We don't want laws changed. We just want to be able to express kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #26

Thank you for adding reason and sanity to this discussion nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #31

Because we live in a plutocracy. Rex Mar 2012 #19

Because he's rich and more important than most other people. He matters. We don't. nt valerief Mar 2012 #21

Because he can pay the deductible? Maybe? nt BOHICA12 Mar 2012 #22

Money and power? n/t arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #24

Maybe they felt sorry for him because he's never had one! nt Walk away Mar 2012 #25

Imagine if an anti-war Democrat's heart was used to keep him alive mainer Mar 2012 #28

Do we really want a system in which nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #33

I'm not saying it should be weighed. I'm just saying it's infuriating. mainer Mar 2012 #46

That remote possibility nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #47

Of course not. I've been a designated donor for three decades. mainer Mar 2012 #49

So we've gone from "Death panels don't exist" to "Where are the death panels?" hughee99 Mar 2012 #29

I agree nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #34

Cheney is a national security genius. gulliver Mar 2012 #30

I agree Cheney is a vile being. However, it isn't up to me to decide when or how he dies. davsand Mar 2012 #38

I don't think that physicians are certain rusty fender Mar 2012 #41

Are you for real? LisaL Mar 2012 #43

It's not a question of him GETTING a new heart it's a question of who ISN'T getting one b/c of him. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #56

Because he wanted to know what it was like to have one? KamaAina Mar 2012 #44

14 % of people getting heart transplants were over the age of 65 last year. Jennicut Mar 2012 #45

Less than a decade? He's in such poor health that he probably has 3 - 4 years at most. Initech Mar 2012 #50

sometimes,getting matching tissue and blood types is tricky. w8liftinglady Mar 2012 #62

Because we believe in compassion and he waited in line like everyone else? N/T FreeState Mar 2012 #63

I copied this from a right wing blog luckyleftyme2 Mar 2012 #64

Well, that proves the point doesn't it? These cruel and tasteless K Gardner Mar 2012 #65

Darth Vader didn't have a heart did he? Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2012 #66

All future heart transplants to patients 65 or older sadbear Mar 2012 #67