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riqster

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Fri Mar 28, 2014, 08:52 AM Mar 2014

This centrist, non-party-member is a more reliable supporter of Dems than are some progressives. [View all]

Dafuq? I mean, really, Dafuq?????

Here at DU we have people who announce their intention to not support Democrats on Election Day, even admitting that they know it will help Republicans take even more control of the country. Some posters on this thread did just that: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4739751

And we have alleged progressives spewing venomous hatred towards our President. Some of them posted on, or were the subject of, this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024738811

I have to ask myself what parallel universe we are living in. I am not as liberal as some DUers, but I vote straight Dem in every fucking election, and have for decades. And even though I am not a fan of Obama, I do respect the office and support him.

Which means that I am enabling progressive change to a greater extent than a fair few progressives here and elsewhere. And that is totally fucked up.

Yes, the party is too far to the right for my tastes. And the Prexy is a flawed and imperfect man. As are many other elected Dems. But people, please, do some soul-searching and ask yourself if intentionally damaging the people and party that come closest to representing your views is a good idea?

No, it isn't a good idea. It is stupid Fuckery of the highest order. You wouldn't scream abuse at a child and sabotage his efforts to succeed and call that "support". Hell, you wouldn't do it to a dog. So what makes people think it a good practice in politics?

Come on, everybody. Divided we fall. The Democratic Party is all that stands between ourselves and a Libertarian Utopia. It needs our support, and we need it to be strong.

I am not very far out to the Left. I am not a Democratic Party member. But I am busting ass on GOTV and election integrity, and it is 100% focused on Dem victories in elections at all levels. I am here to beat down Repubs at every opportunity.

And you'd think that Progressives and Party members would be doing the same, or even more, to advance the cause. And lots are, of course. But entirely too many among us are actively working against us.

Small wonder, then, that I give short shrift to the centrist-bashers hereabouts. Because at sevens and last, I am a staunch and constant supporter of what this site stands for. And my actions match my words.

Either Get Out The Fucking Vote, or at least have the integrity to get out of the way.

(Donning my Nomex Underoos.)

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Blowing off steam at a forum doesn't mean they aren't also working to GOTV el_bryanto Mar 2014 #1
Agreed. If they act on such destructive impulses, though... riqster Mar 2014 #2
Anything we say here can be picked up by RW propogandists. el_bryanto Mar 2014 #3
A fair point. riqster Mar 2014 #4
I think Discouraging Democrats is part of the intent for some. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #13
+1 n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #19
Interesting analysis. Food for thought. riqster Mar 2014 #21
Waffle food for thought Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #26
The first time I noticed it was in 2009, on MSNBC. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #36
oh that any of us had that much power. I am sickened that liberals get thrashed roguevalley Mar 2014 #48
I am only bashing the Dems who don't vote or actively trash our peeps. riqster Mar 2014 #52
Not really response to Joe's post treestar Mar 2014 #55
I'm sure the current party leadership is much more in tune with your views n2doc Mar 2014 #5
Exactly.. sendero Mar 2014 #6
Not really. I'm a Truman Democrat, pretty much. riqster Mar 2014 #7
Just as insane as these outbursts are... TreasonousBastard Mar 2014 #8
I'd never heard of Parkinson's Law of Triviality. Just read a bit more about it. It does describe KittyWampus Mar 2014 #39
If you only vote for Democrats, your 'Independent' status is an affectation. You are a Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #9
I get to define myself, as do we all. I am not a party member. Thus the designation. riqster Mar 2014 #15
Hey, some folks claim they are Napolean, and they are free to make such claims. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #20
Yep. The biggest loud mouthed Obama supporter and "independent" voter I know IRL, Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #45
Maybe torture, war, profit-based health "care", TPP, "clean coal", chained CPI are more your Doctor_J Mar 2014 #10
+1000 Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #12
Says a poster who knows their decision to not vote helps Repubs. riqster Mar 2014 #18
Well, listening to your rant convinces me Belgium Waffles are a better bet. Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #24
You were saying the same thing before said rant. riqster Mar 2014 #29
Lol! Your rant is still a rant Katashi_itto Mar 2014 #41
Is it hard to come down off that cross? TransitJohn Mar 2014 #11
Not feeling crucified, so no. riqster Mar 2014 #16
sorry, chum, not where I live. cali Mar 2014 #14
K & R. GOTV in 2014 or get out of the way. n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #17
Some straight Dem ticket votes Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #22
Mathematics says otherwise. riqster Mar 2014 #27
Being scolded by a Centrist for not falling in line Marrah_G Mar 2014 #23
Bashing progressives and a holier than thou attitude isn't very convincing quinnox Mar 2014 #25
I am not bashing anyone who is helping us win elections. riqster Mar 2014 #28
maybe some folks aren't aware there are other political parties out there? snooper2 Mar 2014 #30
The modern Whig party? Holy snap. riqster Mar 2014 #31
lol. Yea, let's go on a commie and socialist witch hunt at DU! They have infiltrated DU. quinnox Mar 2014 #32
Who wants to wear the mask first? snooper2 Mar 2014 #35
Totally off topic, but that reminds me of this old chestnut: riqster Mar 2014 #46
Obama's FBI did go after the socialists Mnpaul Mar 2014 #49
joining those parties and commenting on their boards treestar Mar 2014 #53
Vote for Chained CPI, Drone murder, Free Trade, Domestic Spying, or the Repubs will win!!! nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #33
Just because I vote D doesn't mean I have to enthusiastically like it. hobbit709 Mar 2014 #34
Me, too. riqster Mar 2014 #37
The 'Centrists' can blow it out their collective arses ... Trajan Mar 2014 #38
If you are voting, you aren't the object of the post. riqster Mar 2014 #40
Congratulations! whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #42
I suggest working to fix the problem, rather than blaming the victims. Zorra Mar 2014 #43
I am not addressing reasonable people such as you describe. riqster Mar 2014 #44
"I'm a ratfucking right-wing troll pretending to be a progressive. But, I'm really just here to Cha Mar 2014 #47
Were you really such a one, you'd be a different problem. riqster Mar 2014 #50
How exactly are those people 'in your way'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #51
Ignorance is not bliss. riqster Mar 2014 #54
You'll need a lot more straw ... Laelth Mar 2014 #56
I said "some", and provided examples. riqster Mar 2014 #60
A lot of people like to talk about being progressive. But then don't walk the walk. BenzoDia Mar 2014 #57
We have to get past this "Democrats are monolithic" mind set by too many around here. RC Mar 2014 #58
Agreed. riqster Mar 2014 #61
Fingerpointing hogwash. 99Forever Mar 2014 #59
It isn't hogwash if the finger is pointing at the correct target. riqster Mar 2014 #62
You have your opinion. 99Forever Mar 2014 #65
If you want change, you can't just work to elect Democrats. dawg Mar 2014 #63
I agree completely. riqster Mar 2014 #64
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