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AdHocSolver

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51. From reading the posts in this thread and others, there seems to be a striking similarity between...
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:42 AM
Mar 2014

...the "rape culture" mentality and the "vulture capitalist" mentality.

In both cases, a perpetrator exploits a situation to take advantage of a victim with no regard for the damage they do to the victim.

The perpetrator then blames the victim for the attack in the sense that the victim was "asking to be victimized" or the attack wouldn't have been successful.

In the case of the skilled factory worker whose job is outsourced to China after his employer's factory is bought by a vulture capitalist and the factory closed, the factory worker is blamed for engaging in the "wrong" kind of work or not having the right kind of skills. To add insult to injury, the now unemployed worker is told to go back to school and learn a new skill to become "employable" in the "new" economy.

Another example is the banking industry that swindled customers out of their homes, and when the economy started to collapse, the government came in and bailed out the banks which committed the fraud, rather than help the home owners who were swindled.

Yet so many still deny such a thing exists... Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #1
It's so exhausting. Squinch Mar 2014 #2
K&R nt Zorra Mar 2014 #3
The post was alerted on and was 6-0 to leave it. Warpy Mar 2014 #4
Who the fuck would alert on this? cyberswede Mar 2014 #5
Results.. one_voice Mar 2014 #7
Juror 6 rocks! cyberswede Mar 2014 #10
Yes, indeed! In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #74
I agree... CSStrowbridge Mar 2014 #103
"Telling women to stop talking about rape and rape culture gives rapists cover" yes. and we have seabeyond Mar 2014 #106
Absolutely! nt laundry_queen Mar 2014 #182
Rape culture threads seem to make the alerter feel guilt. As Juror 6 said, "Fancy that." Squinch Mar 2014 #16
No women's issues in public BainsBane Mar 2014 #34
I am not one bit surprised... Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #6
Agreed BainsBane Mar 2014 #35
clearest evidence of misogyny you gonna get around here. mopinko Mar 2014 #79
Can you post the jury results? Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #8
Rape culture is when an OP like this gets alerted on at a progressive website. nt Zorra Mar 2014 #12
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yep Squinch Mar 2014 #18
you know it. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #37
For the win. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #48
Spot on. CrispyQ Mar 2014 #117
On a website this big, there are inevitably trolls, anyone can alert... Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #118
This thread was alerted on! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #14
Because, I guess, rape culture is just a mentality. Squinch Mar 2014 #20
To bad! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #22
And of course, our bodies have a way of shutting-that-whole-thing-down anyway, calimary Mar 2014 #32
Oui. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #43
If this OP was a REAL hide-worthy OP cui bono Mar 2014 #150
How utterly sad and pathetic. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #21
Why we need to keep talking about ‘rape culture’ sheshe2 Mar 2014 #25
That's just another way of saying, "We don't want to annoy the men by being too vocal Squinch Mar 2014 #27
Yes, Squinch. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #38
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The RAINN statement is rank bullshit: blackspade Mar 2014 #31
Are you saying that I am full of bullshit? sheshe2 Mar 2014 #33
Definitely not you! blackspade Mar 2014 #41
Thank you blackspade. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #54
Is he deliberately not getting it? CrispyQ Mar 2014 #121
From reading the posts in this thread and others, there seems to be a striking similarity between... AdHocSolver Mar 2014 #51
Good observations blackspade Mar 2014 #148
dingdingdingding!! we have a winner: That's EXACTLY the connection zazen Mar 2014 #203
I hope you can find it. redqueen Mar 2014 #204
BWAH! or, I know you were severely traumatized years ago by a series of capitalist abuses, zazen Mar 2014 #209
here it is: from Counterpunch: Bob Jensen's interview re book "Getting Past Capitalism" zazen Mar 2014 #211
You know what's really old? BainsBane Mar 2014 #36
It is getting old, Lunacee_2013 Mar 2014 #61
Of course it was. redqueen Mar 2014 #45
i have an idea of who might have alerted it JI7 Mar 2014 #46
Interesting that they haven't posted in the thread. nt redqueen Mar 2014 #49
It's probably the same one who sent the SOP alert BainsBane Mar 2014 #149
An SOP alert, too? redqueen Mar 2014 #153
SOP alert. why>?????? lol. womens issue only belongs in a group? no fuggin way. lol. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #164
This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #60
As already noted by several others... malthaussen Mar 2014 #91
yup. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #97
Blurred lines. progressoid Mar 2014 #9
Being completely out of touch, I looked up the lyrics to the song. CrispyQ Mar 2014 #123
In fairness, it is *very* catchy. redqueen Mar 2014 #126
It is. But I prefer Marvin Gaye for that funk. progressoid Mar 2014 #171
It was a cringe-worthy moment. progressoid Mar 2014 #172
k and r--people ask why I don't do facebook--that pic and the fact that it was not removed is niyad Mar 2014 #11
Pic blew my mind. And it's OK? Jesus fucking christ. toby jo Mar 2014 #17
Pictures and sparkly images just like it have been posted in The DU Lounge Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #39
K&R Soylent Brice Mar 2014 #13
K&R! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #15
k&r to view later chervilant Mar 2014 #19
Rape culture exists when you allow a rapist to go free seveneyes Mar 2014 #23
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Doesn't mean it's not, does it? mbperrin Mar 2014 #113
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wow. hey woman... meldramatic. we have more rigths than anywhere else. STFU.... seabeyond Mar 2014 #120
No value. mbperrin Mar 2014 #122
cause we have menstrual cycles and get all emotional. shruggin, .... evo psych. lol. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #127
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You seem awful naive. KitSileya Mar 2014 #138
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Yes it is naive, KitSileya Mar 2014 #143
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If you cannot see that aspirations are largely created by the society mbperrin Mar 2014 #156
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Who said they should be gender exclusive? They clearly are, since mbperrin Mar 2014 #155
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This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #163
for now. good to see. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #165
amazing the people Texasgal Mar 2014 #24
K & R Those tweets are a sad commentary justhanginon Mar 2014 #26
Welcome to DU, justhanginon! calimary Mar 2014 #40
Thanks for the kind welcome. justhanginon Apr 2014 #215
But we're going backwards these days, dontchaknow. calimary Mar 2014 #50
rapecultureiswhen people deny, in the fact of evidence, that it exists, because to admit it would niyad Mar 2014 #28
Do you know which culture thinks Aerows Mar 2014 #29
"A culture that believes that if a girl drinks, she is "open season"? " IME, many Americans believe raccoon Mar 2014 #73
You are of course correct. redqueen Mar 2014 #112
K&R! blackspade Mar 2014 #30
Kick BainsBane Mar 2014 #42
K&R! hrmjustin Mar 2014 #44
I rarely agree with you zappaman Mar 2014 #47
Kick and rec. riqster Mar 2014 #52
Kick, kick, kick!!! Heidi Mar 2014 #53
So...what's your solution to this so-called "rape culture?" davidn3600 Mar 2014 #55
No one here is suggesting any such measures. (nt) Heidi Mar 2014 #58
It doesnt seem anyone is suggesting any measures at all davidn3600 Mar 2014 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #65
I don't alert posts unless they are overly vile...not my style davidn3600 Mar 2014 #66
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This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #68
Increased surveillance in public areas shaayecanaan Mar 2014 #72
Rape vs murder is like apples to oranges. WCLinolVir Mar 2014 #105
different studies, 38-64% of college student males said they would rape if the KNEW they could seabeyond Mar 2014 #107
More like comparing green apples with red apples... shaayecanaan Mar 2014 #167
WTF?? Prefabricated? Projection maybe? WCLinolVir Mar 2014 #197
+1. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #206
All rape is considered evil but not all rape is considered equally evil davidn3600 Mar 2014 #168
You seem to be talking to yourself. When has anyone else on this thread mentioned sentencing? nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #186
I must have misunderstood what the other poster was getting at... davidn3600 Mar 2014 #187
Some people do have an overly narrow definition. Rape need not involve physical force. nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #189
Well I go by what the end result is. WCLinolVir Mar 2014 #199
I'd discuss this with you, as I sincerely tried to once before, but I am pretty sure you will Squinch Mar 2014 #77
+1 redqueen Mar 2014 #114
Really, you are so dependable in your inanity. Squinch Mar 2014 #76
For starters, Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #80
Besides the fact that no sane person would suggest them, none of those would stop rape anyway. nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #83
I love it when people post to self identify like this ... etherealtruth Mar 2014 #84
me too. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #93
Exactly etherealtruth Mar 2014 #95
Here's a starting point: mbperrin Mar 2014 #115
We could start by requiring all colleges to require a mandatory seminar on consent CrispyQ Mar 2014 #130
but that is focusing rape too much on the boys/men and hurts their feelers. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #131
Not hurting anyone's feelings, it's just not going to reach men who are capable of such acts davidn3600 Mar 2014 #161
i have actually taken the time to explain it to you, in all respect, experience, and know. seabeyond Mar 2014 #166
Someone who thinks education is a waste of time is a waste of time. -nt CrispyQ Mar 2014 #212
This is a good start BainsBane Mar 2014 #140
That was an excellent article. CrispyQ Mar 2014 #162
"so-called "rape culture?"" NCTraveler Mar 2014 #198
There's been a lot of that posted here lately. redqueen Mar 2014 #201
Thank you. JackRiddler Mar 2014 #56
Kicked... Out of Time Man Mar 2014 #57
K&R Lunacee_2013 Mar 2014 #59
K&R DeSwiss Mar 2014 #63
thank you so much. I don't know what to say beyond that. cali Mar 2014 #64
K & R In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #70
If you want sex so much Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #71
wow. So, are you saying that you think rape is sex? are you being ironic? are you giving us another Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #81
Well, you're right Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #87
No, Sorry. Rape is ALL about power and NOTHING about sex. Please, educate yourself. Thanks. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #92
Sorry Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #96
^ Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #98
The back of my heels have road rash tea and oranges Mar 2014 #141
That you equate sex with the reproductive system is very telling. Peace. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #142
Meaning What? In the Context of Violence? nt tea and oranges Mar 2014 #144
for you, a song: Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #145
Nothing to do with being horny. If it were, then rape would be even more common than it (sadly) is. nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #85
I know Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #88
That is not, by and large, why people rape. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #86
Yes Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #89
Thanks for your evolving views on this subject. redqueen Mar 2014 #124
Many here are so vocal and active Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #214
K&R n/t lupinella Mar 2014 #75
I am sick of people saying that there isnt a rape problem DiverDave Mar 2014 #82
+1. i have two boys also, and have had many conversation and they have a father that seabeyond Mar 2014 #90
Not hard to believe this was flagged by someone, who shall remain nameless. WCLinolVir Mar 2014 #94
You mean it was juried? Can you post the results? It won't show the names and is otten done. I only freshwest Mar 2014 #169
This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #173
Thank you very much. I'll read that. I missed the post by one voice. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #174
Rape is caused by the conscious decision of a small percentage to commit a violent crime. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #99
looking at what causes cancers, like smoking is a total waste of time, when addressing the killer seabeyond Mar 2014 #101
rape culture is why so many of those criminals go uncharged or escape conviction. KittyWampus Mar 2014 #102
But using terms like "white privilege" or "rape culture" helps put things in a larger social context nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #104
Let me see if I understand you correctly... malthaussen Mar 2014 #108
Statistically speaking you are wrong. WCLinolVir Mar 2014 #109
Are you suggesting there is no white privilege in this country? mbperrin Mar 2014 #119
Yes, he is saying they do not exist. When they put it in quotes, it is exactly what they mean Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #200
And if there were a small amount of rapes, you might have a point... Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #137
Thank you for this. CFLDem Mar 2014 #178
The analogy is imperfect, but... malthaussen Mar 2014 #100
Well said it fits many circumstances. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #170
a women's photo with "Tape her and Rape her" doesn't "violate Facebook community standards"?? whathehell Mar 2014 #110
more. that photo does not seems to stop men in ther tracks to question their position that seabeyond Mar 2014 #111
The complete disregard for this and other feminist issues by facebook redqueen Mar 2014 #132
always interesting being school by a man with 20 posts how us women are melodramatic, should seabeyond Mar 2014 #125
"appreciate what we are allowed in this country compared to other countries" redqueen Mar 2014 #128
twinklin' in joy woman. always. damn, life is awesome as we make it. seabeyond Mar 2014 #129
Wow, I've seen women blamed for men voting republican before... redqueen Mar 2014 #133
sounds like it to me. am i wrong? seabeyond Mar 2014 #134
So, let's discuss it... cyberswede Mar 2014 #146
Thank you Redqueen. thucythucy Mar 2014 #135
K&R Solly Mack Mar 2014 #147
Yup. I think all rapists or would-be rapists belong behind bars. I don't know what their Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #151
This post presents the case very well. Those who deny such a culture exists HERVEPA Mar 2014 #154
Not the only options ... brett_jv Mar 2014 #185
thank you, the alerter shld be taken to the woodshed and shipped off to MRA Island bettyellen Mar 2014 #157
Wondering if anyone in the Jury realized that they can Alert the Alerter or other Juror comments freshwest Mar 2014 #184
Excellent post. K&R Louisiana1976 Mar 2014 #160
Excellent examples. And regarding Noam Chomsky about the condition of many women in the world: freshwest Mar 2014 #175
excellent additions. you are absolutely right on. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #176
Thanks. freshwest Mar 2014 #177
Thank you. redqueen Mar 2014 #180
While I understand the good intentions involved in raising the issue ... brett_jv Mar 2014 #179
'real problem' why do you have to qualify it in that manner/ to support your argument. how about seabeyond Mar 2014 #205
If you're really unable to ascertain how a 'campaign' like this could backfire ... brett_jv Mar 2014 #213
Rape culture = all men are potential rapists and all women are potential victims davidn3600 Mar 2014 #181
I bet if you tried, you could come up with a dumber post. jeff47 Mar 2014 #188
"If she says no, don't do it. If you've already started and she says no, you have to stop." nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #190
Since when does a rapist care if a woman is screaming "no?" davidn3600 Mar 2014 #191
There are different kinds of rapists. jeff47 Mar 2014 #193
I was suggesting the alcohol is to blame for the rapist's behavior davidn3600 Mar 2014 #195
Which is an excuse, why? jeff47 Mar 2014 #196
Saying no, not screaming no. cyberswede Mar 2014 #194
hey david... make up a whole friggin story, however you choose, throw out to derail conversation seabeyond Mar 2014 #207
That the one sick rape joke stood on facebook Tsiyu Mar 2014 #183
Even people who agree with that vile shit don't think it's "funny." They just pretend to nomorenomore08 Mar 2014 #192
...when other men just assume that I want to have sex all the time... Deep13 Mar 2014 #202
ya deep. it has so aggressively become a caricature of all that a man is. it is sad. and it use seabeyond Mar 2014 #208
true. nt Deep13 Mar 2014 #210
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