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120. Rape culture encompasses all aspects surrounding rape

Reply to Starry Messenger (Reply #118)

Sun Mar 30, 2014, 10:34 PM

Mar 2014

including overzealous suitors who think no means anything other than no.

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What does a world without rape culture look like? [View all] CFLDem Mar 2014 OP

well, when as you state a young mans libido is out of control, hence unable to control and the young seabeyond Mar 2014 #1

I don't know from 'dorks' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #11

i think by promoting the male sexuality thru the penis being its own identity with a brain, lol is seabeyond Mar 2014 #18

Well, obviously, both genders should be getting an Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #36

hey dude.... seabeyond Mar 2014 #39

Heh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #42

that is my point. the story telling has to change. just your perspective seabeyond Mar 2014 #47

I'm pretty sure I never said mine had to be. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #57

Or, lol, do not be so sensitive. I was not saying you personally seabeyond Mar 2014 #66

Rape is not about sex MissMillie Mar 2014 #143

+1 leftstreet Mar 2014 #146

+10 Cleita Mar 2014 #152

I'll go a bit further > what does a world without an accepted Culture of Violence look like? KittyWampus Mar 2014 #2

That is a pretty good extension. CFLDem Mar 2014 #4

That is what I believe as well. KittyWampus Mar 2014 #9

This get the red out Mar 2014 #151

and it hits me. your 'hard to get' no means yes??? fuckin for real? tell me with men being seabeyond Mar 2014 #3

Well Sea, CFLDem Mar 2014 #5

i want to know. when you say "hard to get" are you talking no means yes. simple enough. seabeyond Mar 2014 #7

No CFLDem Mar 2014 #12

the playing hard to get, no means yes is very common. especially with pua and mra seabeyond Mar 2014 #14

Sea CFLDem Mar 2014 #16

are you saying i slander you if i discuss pua and mra???? no. i will not take my statement that seabeyond Mar 2014 #17

You know exactly what you are doing. CFLDem Mar 2014 #19

yes. i did need clarification of the "playing hard to get". seabeyond Mar 2014 #22

to tuesday cause you self deleted. and i posted to you on your delete. seabeyond Mar 2014 #26

Yeah, good luck with all this. Stick a fork in me cause I am done. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #31

it sooo is. with you woman. i am off.... luvs you too. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #21

Query: What does "pua" mean? Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #68

Pick up artist... Google. Interesting group seabeyond Mar 2014 #70

Oh, *them* Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #72

"Pick Up Artist" I think. nt rrneck Mar 2014 #73

I guess I'm a little confused as well. thucythucy Mar 2014 #126

High school? Is that where you are? Scootaloo Mar 2014 #30

No the high school thing is part of Sea's slander campaign. CFLDem Mar 2014 #35

i asked. he said old enough to rent a car. what is that, 16 or 18. still highschool. nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #37

You have to be 21 to rent a car, unless you have a special arrangement snooper2 Mar 2014 #140

h. good and bad. consoling thinking highschool, boys that were responsible/respectful are dorks... seabeyond Mar 2014 #141

Like any number of aboriginal cultures prior to Western contact. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #6

damn you are smart. i love a good brain. seabeyond Mar 2014 #8

Intriguing CFLDem Mar 2014 #10

Judeo-Christian culture views women as chattels. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #15

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look to current cultures that are matrileneal cally Mar 2014 #55

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and then go over, over a couple decades of freedom and financial independence, women say no to seabeyond Mar 2014 #41

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Just to clarify: are you stating it is the natural order for women to submit to men? antigone382 Mar 2014 #61

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3-3 on your bullshit post. Should be an easy hide. Rw crap, garbage seabeyond Mar 2014 #75

This says it all about DU3 CFLDem Mar 2014 #82

Um, no. rrneck Mar 2014 #77

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How does your reply square with the previous one? rrneck Mar 2014 #94

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Men were designed to lead. rrneck Mar 2014 #100

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. CreekDog Mar 2014 #78

Thank you creek. You are there.... Always. Appreciate. Nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #83

I say that we lose a few Tsiyu Mar 2014 #80

Natural order if mra or Eco psych fan, ya. And those two are about the same. Who were you? seabeyond Mar 2014 #62

I think that's unfair to EvoPsych Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #71

You really validated what I said. It is used by non religious to control, dominate women seabeyond Mar 2014 #74

Well, it's not my area Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #76

I am on my phone. I am not doing the linking. Scientists, biological scientists debunk ego psych. seabeyond Mar 2014 #79

I would agree with that Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #81

Ya. That. Phone, I can't do much. Nt seabeyond Mar 2014 #90

FYI Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #102

"I've never been kicked off"...yet cyberswede Mar 2014 #106

In parts of pre-Christian Europe and in some aboriginal cultures. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #50

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Or they're not so "extremely submissive" as you may imagine. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #51

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Nonsense. Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #60

My Lord, I hadn't considered that Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #69

Also the north eastern Native American tribes did not have rape as Squinch Mar 2014 #86

I'm skeptical. CFLDem Mar 2014 #93

It is from Squinch Mar 2014 #99

Sounds like an interesting chapter in history. CFLDem Mar 2014 #101

Astonishing. We were all taught "Plymouth Rock" and then immediately after that "Revolution." But Squinch Mar 2014 #105

And... Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #136

Can you imagine? It was the end of the world, for a whole culture full of people. Squinch Mar 2014 #147

Ah right Tux421 Mar 2014 #115

Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay. It should help with those reading skills. Squinch Mar 2014 #116

Correct me if I'm wrong Tux421 Mar 2014 #117

I said north eastern tribes didn't. And then I gave my sources for that information. Squinch Mar 2014 #119

Oh come on Tux421 Mar 2014 #123

as offensive as your post is, juries won't hide it CreekDog Mar 2014 #124

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what is your degree in? CreekDog Mar 2014 #128

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i'm just wondering where you learned something as backwards as: CreekDog Mar 2014 #131

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Just a guess but I imagine we won't be Squinch Mar 2014 #149

Tux has been tombstoned: previously banned. I was going to ask him who he used to be. Squinch Mar 2014 #155

You haven't read enough. And in your case, ignorance doesn't seem to be bliss, because, bro, Squinch Mar 2014 #142

Just a clarification Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #134

I am saying that, in the north eastern tribes, it simply wasn't used. There are scores Squinch Mar 2014 #144

It's convenient that all cultures idealized as exemplary of harmony and tranquility... lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #122

thanks Tux CreekDog Mar 2014 #129

Go back far enough and that's true of virtually every culture Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #135

A world without "rape culture" would be free of pedophiles! NoOneMan Mar 2014 #13

do you enjoy saying ridiculous things? bettyellen Mar 2014 #23

Did you miss today's circus? NoOneMan Mar 2014 #25

Yes, Why? Are you the head clown? bettyellen Mar 2014 #27

Basically, yes NoOneMan Mar 2014 #32

A bit of both, TBH Prophet 451 Mar 2014 #138

... lol ... Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #33

Yes he does. That's his point. Sad, but true. Squinch Mar 2014 #87

Despite thousands of years trying to stop murders LittleBlue Mar 2014 #24

As noted above CFLDem Mar 2014 #28

I think it goes deeper than culture. Saw a nature show LittleBlue Mar 2014 #43

I suspect you are correct. nt CFLDem Mar 2014 #46

OMFG, is about all I can say... boston bean Mar 2014 #108

so... it is biology that makes men rape. damn... pathetic. not surprised. consistent seabeyond Mar 2014 #139

Men wouldn't use terms like "hard to get" in a world without rape culture BainsBane Mar 2014 #38

But then why do women play hard to get? CFLDem Mar 2014 #40

Are you talking about sex or dating? BainsBane Mar 2014 #44

Oh no I was talking about dating. CFLDem Mar 2014 #48

Cool BainsBane Mar 2014 #49

Well people do always want what they can't have. CFLDem Mar 2014 #53

You just answered your own question BainsBane Mar 2014 #54

I think the vast majority of men jamzrockz Mar 2014 #59

It's not just no-means-no. There's also the possibility that she doesn't yet know exactly what she enough Mar 2014 #65

"In fact, the idea that "men are only interested in one thing" is also part of rape culture." BainsBane Mar 2014 #67

playing "hard to get" boston bean Mar 2014 #63

Yes Boston Bean CFLDem Mar 2014 #84

And what does it have to do with rape culture? Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #88

That is one of the aspects here to discuss. CFLDem Mar 2014 #91

You brought it up... How do you fit it into rape culture? Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #95

How does it not fit into rape culture? CFLDem Mar 2014 #98

Asking a woman out more then one time is not a cornerstone of rape culture... Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #107

It is if she flat out rejects the initial advance. CFLDem Mar 2014 #109

And what? Playing hard to get is the encouragement? Women are making men go to far? Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #110

No CFLDem Mar 2014 #112

Again... Asking a woman out more then once has nothing to do with rape culture... Ohio Joe Mar 2014 #113

And yet I have clearly demonstrated that it does. CFLDem Mar 2014 #114

You brought it up, so you implied a connection. So spit it out already..... bettyellen Mar 2014 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author Adam051188 Mar 2014 #89

Such as? CFLDem Mar 2014 #92

Norman Lear had a sitcom with complete role reversal Beringia Mar 2014 #104

personal boundaries cannot, by definition be universal. they are not always the same for one person bettyellen Mar 2014 #111

wtf does "hard to get" have to do with rape. Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #118

Rape culture encompasses all aspects surrounding rape CFLDem Mar 2014 #120

They aren't suitors, they are rapists. Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #121

Finally someone gets it! CFLDem Mar 2014 #137

it has nothing to do with Niceguy1 Mar 2014 #154

I think part of sex ed should be a class on saying no, and understanding the word no Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #125

And why do romance novels that women obsess over get a pass? davidn3600 Mar 2014 #132

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You're going to say, "What about Elizabeth Hasselback??!11??1" again, aren't you? Squinch Mar 2014 #150

"They do it too!" is not a valid defense. For anyone over the age of 6, at least. n/t nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #156

A lot like what you'd get LadyHawkAZ Mar 2014 #148

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Mar 2014 #153