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LiberalFighter

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95. If people are going to maximize their activism so that it matters.

Mon Mar 31, 2014, 11:06 AM

Mar 2014

This is intended to those that are not happy with outcomes. There are legitimate complaints but it helps more to work within as much as possible to make the changes.

They need to consider other options that mash with their goals. If they want to increase the odds that their contributions will make the difference they want they should consider donating at different levels. That is instead of the DNC consider doing so at the state or local party level. Or to specific candidates. They can also make their voice heard more if they are active as volunteers or participants at different levels. Attend local and state functions such as fundraisers as well as state or other conventions in which their views are heard at a one to one level.

Help find good candidates. It would be nice to find good candidates at the higher levels such as a state-wide or federal level. But it helps a lot to groom candidates that start more at the local level with the goal of those showing their qualifications move up the ladder.

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So now, it's not just Obama, but the Democratic Party that's being bashed here? [View all] berni_mccoy Mar 2014 OP

Yup. Democrats need our support, not our ennui. MineralMan Mar 2014 #1

It's a discussion board Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #2

It is, indeed. We're discussing the negative MineralMan Mar 2014 #8

Vee vill have no dissention in ze ranks! Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #10

German accented dialect posting? MineralMan Mar 2014 #11

Most will see the humor. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #14

And others will see your true intent. MineralMan Mar 2014 #15

My "true intent?" Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #17

Agent Mike ...is that you? L0oniX Mar 2014 #26

Shhh!!!! Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #31

So Unsupported Innuendo and Ad Hominem = Democratic Values??? TheSarcastinator Mar 2014 #94

You appear to be in hyper anti Dem overdrive today. Sheepshank Mar 2014 #79

You got me. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #84

alrighty then Sheepshank Mar 2014 #88

No, it's not about discouraging donations to Democrats. It's about discouraging donations .... Scuba Mar 2014 #28

The Democratic Party has left its Democratic base behind, in its march to the Right. RC Mar 2014 #50

+ no shit! Phlem Mar 2014 #59

Love the sign-off! Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2014 #36

"GOTV-Way MineralManny"? You win the Internet for today. riqster Mar 2014 #40

If people here keep trying to defund and cast a completely negative light on appleannie1 Mar 2014 #77

some people have been doing that here for years hfojvt Mar 2014 #100

Misery loves company? randome Mar 2014 #3

Critical thought requires the ability to critique. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #7

'Bashing' is not the same as 'criticism', though. randome Mar 2014 #90

FUD don't spread itself, my friend. nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #4

It's not the first time.. SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #5

For years the national party leadership has seen TX as a cash cow for donations hobbit709 Mar 2014 #6

California too. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #12

OTOH Californians can handle it pscot Mar 2014 #27

This California thanks you for your sane words. nt SunSeeker Mar 2014 #32

It would just be nice if they were to Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #33

Because my local party has democratic clubs folding nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #43

That's true pscot Mar 2014 #58

And we have a rule. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #64

So there are no Democrats in California? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #37

Yeah, 'cause that is exactly what I just said. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #61

Or something..... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #65

Virginia as well. We had a very viable candidate challenging Eric Cantor, and Nay Mar 2014 #57

True! tea and oranges Mar 2014 #78

NJ JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #80

Have you noticed the abundance of teahadists license plates? westerebus Mar 2014 #104

Yes, but the Dem was polling 40%. That should have been a clue to whoever Nay Mar 2014 #107

I think the comments about the emails are not bashing the Party frazzled Mar 2014 #9

This is bashing: berni_mccoy Mar 2014 #13

Well, yeah, some of them are bashing ... frazzled Mar 2014 #19

^^^^ THAT!! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #38

THIS nt redqueen Mar 2014 #69

That is 'bashing' *of a badly worded message* muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #103

It's a constant drumbeat of negativity Hekate Mar 2014 #108

What bernie_mccoy said. nt Hekate Mar 2014 #109

The emails are way cheaper and more effective sufrommich Mar 2014 #16

They may work for a while, but it could end up backfiring frazzled Mar 2014 #24

I had to laugh at the years worth of Oreos. sufrommich Mar 2014 #25

Several months ago I unsubscribed from nearly everything, and told them all the same thing.... Hekate Mar 2014 #111

Can somebody help me up off this couch? Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #18

Did you check in your boots? L0oniX Mar 2014 #29

K&R Agree 100%. They don't even attempt to hide their ratfucking anymore. n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #20

The republicans Turbineguy Mar 2014 #21

Either mrchips Mar 2014 #22

kick nt SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #23

Are you actually complaining about what other DU posters do? How isnt that "whining about DU"?? rhett o rick Mar 2014 #30

Ahhh, but don't you see? Glitterati Mar 2014 #35

Apparently there are no issues to be discussed like the TPP, XL Pipeline, fracking, Wall Street rhett o rick Mar 2014 #48

That takes critical thinking Glitterati Mar 2014 #51

Wow...just wow... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #39

It boggles the mind that someone who is unhappy with the e-mails they are getting... Spazito Mar 2014 #34

because its not about the emails.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #41

This^^^^ riqster Mar 2014 #44

Yep! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #46

Yep! I just auto-route them all to one folder, then go in periodically and look at them, I give RKP5637 Mar 2014 #45

Yep, if I don't want to receive e-mails from someone or some organization, I simply block them... Spazito Mar 2014 #47

Yep, someone is playing stupid. bettyellen Mar 2014 #56

DNC e-mail "complaints" go way back Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #62

Yes, I have noticed that, it is quite obvious... Spazito Mar 2014 #68

Well, I suppose I could block anything with 'obama.com' in the 'From' line. Stonepounder Mar 2014 #67

Yes, actually you could simply block all 'obama.com' if you don't want the e-mails... Spazito Mar 2014 #71

Or you could hit the "unsubscribe" link. jeff47 Mar 2014 #86

1. How do you improve things? 2. How do you ensure things stagnate and don't change? joeglow3 Mar 2014 #42

What are you, a Party Flack? A Fascist? A Stalinist Apparatchik???? alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #49

Hey Bernie nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #52

Interesting comments maddezmom Mar 2014 #76

At the risk of exposing myself as a narcissist... MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #53

It seemed pretty obvious to me that had been your point muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #112

I agree 100%. There are so many other, more important battles to be had. DrewFlorida Mar 2014 #54

Hmm... Quite an effort to frame a common complaint (spam) as "subversive" whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #55

I love my ignore filter sharp_stick Mar 2014 #60

Have you ever read the emails? Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #63

"You are free to say anything you want..." AgingAmerican Mar 2014 #66

SERIOUS FUD here... at some point there should be limits to RWTPs as OPs uponit7771 Mar 2014 #70

Seems to me the problem is that once you respond LibDemAlways Mar 2014 #72

Exactly correct! JEB Mar 2014 #110

K&R BumRushDaShow Mar 2014 #73

Thanks for that, Herr party member. Indeed, we should be grateful for any official party emails quinnox Mar 2014 #74

pretty obvious the anti-campaign is in full throttle Sheepshank Mar 2014 #75

Not according to DU's Terms of Service Oilwellian Mar 2014 #85

When Straight folks say 'bashing' I get a queasy feeling... Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #81

If you have a problem with TOS, write the owners of DU Oilwellian Mar 2014 #82

It's just that some have lost Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #106

Truthfully, what the heck are the Democrats supposed to do when faced with Koch money Peacetrain Mar 2014 #83

It's not the fundraising that is the problem Oilwellian Mar 2014 #87

So contact them and let them know this. randome Mar 2014 #91

What makes you think DU'ers haven't? Oilwellian Mar 2014 #101

Let me take it a step further nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #93

Yes, this "just shut up, donate and vote" schtick is getting old and won't garner votes n/t Oilwellian Mar 2014 #99

It must be Loyalty Oath time again. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #89

sacred cows make the best burgers TheSarcastinator Mar 2014 #92

If people are going to maximize their activism so that it matters. LiberalFighter Mar 2014 #95

I alerted on a post that violated the S.O.P. of DU flamingdem Mar 2014 #96

working for the other side. mopinko Mar 2014 #97

OMG. We just want policy positions in line with the majority Dem goals that's all:) grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #98

the question is...how to get there Sheepshank Mar 2014 #102

Rest assured IkeRepublican Mar 2014 #105

+1. "That's not dissent, it's subversion." Doesn't make sense does it? Considering the TOS..... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #113

Locking... Lasher Mar 2014 #114