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79. That was the theory behind the mini

Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:22 PM

Apr 2014

which is a very different beat in Europe

Here, just in general to mini cars and the industry

By contrast the little cars on display in Geneva are more affordable, but still designed to be fairly practical to own and fun to drive. Traditionally, top automakers have been loath to bring city cars to the U.S., arguing that American buyers lose interest when fuel prices moderate and seek better value in larger models.

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140313/AUTO03/303130033#ixzz2yLsFzcdT

One reason the Mini grew in size and the power plant is actually different.

I would not mind an economical mini vehicle that at least could get to highway speeds for city driving. I would never take it to the back country, among other reasons lack of pavement in some of the places I drive, but for day to day city driving, I would love it.

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VOLKSWAGENS NEW 300 MPG CAR NOT ALLOWED IN AMERICA [View all] nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 OP

You lost me here... Agschmid Apr 2014 #1

The guys over at Jalopnik got a drive as well Mnpaul Apr 2014 #36

Cool read thanks! Agschmid Apr 2014 #40

This is when it lost me: pnwmom Apr 2014 #131

I've been dipped in Vaseline before... Agschmid Apr 2014 #135

Not allowed in America...except for the tour of America they took last December. Brickbat Apr 2014 #2

Here's some info from a slightly less nutty source: Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #3

+1 Agschmid Apr 2014 #4

Thanks nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #6

"his claim that it is not being allowed on US Roads, sounds true." Brickbat Apr 2014 #20

I could tell that article was yanking us just by the wording. Always be skeptical. nt tridim Apr 2014 #41

My guess is that it's not allowed in the US Warpy Apr 2014 #5

THis is not an indian car nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #7

I agree or clean air standards. There are cars such as the volt or Tesla lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #13

This is a hybrid power plant nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #29

Then it is something else nadinbrzezinski that be isn't pushing it. Maybe they do not believe lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #52

So you know, safety standards in Germany in particular, nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #62

I have no doubt. All I am saying is it is VWs choice lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #188

As we found out from others nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #191

you are right about the quarterly profit/loss, and that can be laid directly at wall street. Very lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #204

Wall Street nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #205

Or they're only making 250, so why ship a $150k car to the US to sell a handful. tammywammy Apr 2014 #16

Probably a factor also Warpy Apr 2014 #113

Well there is more........@$146k I'd buy the Tesla. Historic NY Apr 2014 #8

From what Blue Tires posted it is more of an X platform nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #11

I get 80+ mpg on my Chevy Volt. I'm pretty happy with that. berni_mccoy Apr 2014 #9

That was not the point nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #14

Nah berni_mccoy Apr 2014 #19

Yes we all are familiar with the standards nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #26

Oh come on... we all know Obama was in cohots with whistler162 Apr 2014 #216

They are all hand built at this point which means they either.. Historic NY Apr 2014 #37

Or number three, this is an X car, proof of concept nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #43

You realize the Golf isn't going to get 200+ mpg, right? Brickbat Apr 2014 #46

From the car and driver link: rudolph the red Apr 2014 #124

I have a volt and unless I drive long distance, I don't use any gas lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #21

I have a 176 mile round trip I drive 2-3 times a week. berni_mccoy Apr 2014 #23

That is terrific Berni. I can get about 46 miles on a single charge. My lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #27

I hear Jay Polk drives one. /nt pintobean Apr 2014 #10

I heard he was buried in it Brother Buzz Apr 2014 #38

I got a non-denial denial that he didn't. Brickbat Apr 2014 #47

Here is an Autolink's story. The car is not intended for production, according to Autolink. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #12

But the powerplant is nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #17

I think you are missing the point. Some vehicles are never meant for wide adoption. berni_mccoy Apr 2014 #22

No I did not, it is an X car, like an X plane nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #24

Unless they go to the same great lengths to make a suer light car, it will never do 300 mpg Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #30

250 will be good, as it will raise the overall efficiency of the fleet nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #31

I remember rumors in the 1970s that there was a gizmo that would get 200 mpg out of any car. Hoyt Apr 2014 #15

Except this vehicle is real nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #18

I'm sure it takes a while to implement new car production/design itsrobert Apr 2014 #33

My dad actually 2naSalit Apr 2014 #35

Similar story with the guy who invented the Windshield wiper nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #50

Not surprized. 2naSalit Apr 2014 #55

Like sone other entrepreneur wouldn't change a thing or two to make a billion. Hoyt Apr 2014 #61

The power plant is going on Golfs next year nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #65

I think VW would take a car like that and sell a zillion of them. There is no reason to hold back Hoyt Apr 2014 #70

That was the theory behind the mini nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #79

If they actually thought they would sell, they'd bring them. Besides, you can buy one Hoyt Apr 2014 #130

If I had a million to spare nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #134

Ah, now you are going to need investors, hence a corporation or partnership. Hoyt Apr 2014 #145

They will deploy in Europe nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #169

Lots of cars deploy there first, even a cool Ford Fiesta. Mercedes, Audis, BMW, VWs, newest technol Hoyt Apr 2014 #177

A Version of the Engine - I repeat, a VERSION! Mopar151 Apr 2014 #178

True, but if this gives you a 200+ mpg nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #183

I suspect 2naSalit Apr 2014 #203

Yep, I remember several stories defacto7 Apr 2014 #182

Prius already gets 50 mpg n2doc Apr 2014 #25

How many are going to buy a 20K Golf nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #28

Many. If that happens n2doc Apr 2014 #34

The Jetta TDI has been available for years. tammywammy Apr 2014 #42

They are also bringing in a 42mpg Passat Mnpaul Apr 2014 #45

That Golf is not for US distribution nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #48

A gas Golf starts at $20k, the diesel starts at $25k and a hybrid Jetta starts at $27k tammywammy Apr 2014 #39

Raises both hands. Millions would. tridim Apr 2014 #44

I bought a new Honda Civic with auto that reliably got 42 mpg DJ13 Apr 2014 #32

I'll never sell my 99 Civic. tridim Apr 2014 #49

Shoot, we can't even get 42 mpg out of our '08 Civic Hybrid. kath Apr 2014 #180

I have a new VW Jetta wagon TDI diesel... defacto7 Apr 2014 #186

TDI outperforms most "hybrids" in real-world driving Mopar151 Apr 2014 #206

Jim Stone... SidDithers Apr 2014 #51

Please tell me it isn't the same Jim Stone? maddezmom Apr 2014 #53

It isn't... Agschmid Apr 2014 #56

Yeah just hit the link in the OP and it goes to this nutty site.... Woowoo maddezmom Apr 2014 #57

My EYES!!! greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #64

Some pretty sick stuff there maddezmom Apr 2014 #66

Yes, you would think so. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #69

Yes it is, talk about an ugly style sheet! Agschmid Apr 2014 #105

Looks like the web version of a sensationalistic rag. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #106

Holy shit tammywammy Apr 2014 #78

Yup, nadin needs to check her courses before posting from these sites maddezmom Apr 2014 #81

As a professional "journo" tammywammy Apr 2014 #85

Yup, that bullying meme comes into play everytime she gets called on her nonsense maddezmom Apr 2014 #90

ZOMG "9-11 was teh jooos" dionysus Apr 2014 #89

Yes, they are indeed. Sandy Hook was also a hoax according to Jim Stone maddezmom Apr 2014 #92

Jim Stone. Jim Jones was a whole 'nother kind of nutter... SidDithers Apr 2014 #96

Thanks.... maddezmom Apr 2014 #100

Yup. One and the same...nt SidDithers Apr 2014 #72

Sad this was posted as a serious item for discussion in GD maddezmom Apr 2014 #75

Shh! Brother Buzz Apr 2014 #54

"The Jews!" conspiracy crap! greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #58

Jim Stone is a full blown nutter. maddezmom Apr 2014 #63

After looking at his website, that's the nice way of putting it. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #68

Lovely, eh?...nt SidDithers Apr 2014 #74

My instinct is to point and laugh at that garbage. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #77

from the nonwoo source, at 3 inches of clearance, and 4 inch wide tires, i'd total the thing on one dionysus Apr 2014 #80

3 or 4 inches is about 6 meters, zappaman Apr 2014 #94

i can see the hubcap flying over a mile after it hits the pothole. dionysus Apr 2014 #97

It would last about a second on 128... Agschmid Apr 2014 #107

i lost a hubcap and cracked the hell out of another one on a pothole this "spring" dionysus Apr 2014 #150

If Jim Stone thought that was a "Jewish discussion" he linked to, Raksha Apr 2014 #227

Thanks for the additional info... SidDithers Apr 2014 #228

nadin, you linked to a guy that'sfull of crap (again) dionysus Apr 2014 #59

In before the self delete! zappaman Apr 2014 #60

What's the over/under on the number of edits that will be made to this OP?...nt SidDithers Apr 2014 #76

my money is on an eventual self delete. vaht? dionysus Apr 2014 #95

Nope davidpdx Apr 2014 #193

We're up to 5 edits... SidDithers Apr 2014 #208

7 now LOL, I'll buy cake for everyone if we hit 10 snooper2 Apr 2014 #214

More awesomeness from Jim Stone... SidDithers Apr 2014 #67

Wtf? zappaman Apr 2014 #71

Indeed. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #102

Why are you repeatedly spamming this thread with that idiot's ravings? It was clear from ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #99

Kinda glad someone has. zappaman Apr 2014 #104

I said that the poster I addressed pointed it out "rightfully so". My question was why is the ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #108

I'm glad someone has. N/t zappaman Apr 2014 #110

Yes, you've made that clear now, along with something else. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #111

And thank you for all you have added to this thread as well! zappaman Apr 2014 #114

You're welcome. Would be nice to see you guys add something more than you usually do. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #115

Sid added quite a lot. zappaman Apr 2014 #117

But don't add too much, or you'll get accused of spamming... SidDithers Apr 2014 #119

Need a tissue? nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #157

Actually, all I had to do to know the guy was nuts was look at his site for a moment. That's ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #133

I didn't go to his site. zappaman Apr 2014 #138

Yes, you've said that repeatedly. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #142

Some of us choose to post factual information... Agschmid Apr 2014 #141

Did I say "bullying"? Maybe a hint of guilty conscience there? Sound mighty defensive. At least ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #147

No guilt from me. Agschmid Apr 2014 #149

Indeed. Thank you for doing that for us. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #154

Feel free to put me on ignore if you don't like my posts maddezmom Apr 2014 #146

Call them out all you want. I do when the opportunity arises. I just do it...differently. I don't ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #148

Okay. maddezmom Apr 2014 #153

Is that a hello ... or goodbye? Hard to tell. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #155

It is a hello! I don't use ignore for people that disagree with me or my posts maddezmom Apr 2014 #161

Good. I'm glad. I dont use ignore either. The OP definately botched this one and I told her so. ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #166

Thank you for doing it maddezmom Apr 2014 #168

because we LOVE SPAM! snooper2 Apr 2014 #215

I thought for sure you would have posted this maddezmom Apr 2014 #218

I posted 2 examples... SidDithers Apr 2014 #109

Oh I'm caught up. I see what is happening. nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #112

I see what is happening. zappaman Apr 2014 #116

J'accuse!!... SidDithers Apr 2014 #118

So, your disdain extends to those who agree with you when pointing out bullshit but ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #159

Yup... SidDithers Apr 2014 #165

Touche! What's next? ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #170

So what? Something else we don't need. nt kelliekat44 Apr 2014 #73

You mean we really do not need more efficient engines? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #82

"And while the source is not precisely the best... " SidDithers Apr 2014 #83

Is that a polite way of saying it's the worst? greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #84

Semi-polite... SidDithers Apr 2014 #86

LOL. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #87

Yet, from the looks of this thread Bobbie Jo Apr 2014 #158

Fukushima was caused by Israeli nukes?!? zappaman Apr 2014 #91

Posted after the edit: Brickbat Apr 2014 #88

Thank you! maddezmom Apr 2014 #93

+1... SidDithers Apr 2014 #98

+ 1 tammywammy Apr 2014 #101

+1 Agschmid Apr 2014 #103

I saw a documentary from the 60s about a tablet that turns water into gasoline Orrex Apr 2014 #219

Great info, Nadin Aerows Apr 2014 #120

And blue tires provided a good one nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #121

"little shaky"?... SidDithers Apr 2014 #122

You seem to be on ignore, join the club. Agschmid Apr 2014 #129

Yup... SidDithers Apr 2014 #137

"A little shaky" zappaman Apr 2014 #123

Uh Aerows Apr 2014 #128

Indeed. zappaman Apr 2014 #136

I'm still lost Aerows Apr 2014 #139

That's the author linked in the OP. tammywammy Apr 2014 #143

Well, it serves me right Aerows Apr 2014 #151

Jim Stone. zappaman Apr 2014 #144

Didn't read the entire thread Aerows Apr 2014 #156

It happens. zappaman Apr 2014 #160

No kidding Aerows Apr 2014 #164

BTW, I'm sorry Aerows Apr 2014 #162

The article in the OP is written by an anti-Semitic piece of shit by the name of Jim Stone... SidDithers Apr 2014 #152

"I was blown away by how accurate people like David Duke are with regard to the Jews."... SidDithers Apr 2014 #126

Apparently the secret is the flux capacitor (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #125

Isn't this the same fictional concept car that has been rumored for 10 years? BlueStreak Apr 2014 #127

This is real. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #132

Looks like you have quite the fan club. Do yourself a favor and carefully vet your source, even if ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #140

I got a bunch of character assassins nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #167

You posted a shit source and got called on it. tammywammy Apr 2014 #171

Yup, close it is maddezmom maddezmom Apr 2014 #172

People who point out factual errors are not "character assassins"... Agschmid Apr 2014 #174

Oh yes, I used to lurk back in the day (I didn't join because I was sure people here would ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #175

Well, saw it on FB and found it interesting. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #181

Most of them contribute little more than negativity. You blow them away when it comes to ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2014 #184

Easier than that. The list of what not to post nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #187

I don't post much any more either. pecwae Apr 2014 #207

Hehe... SidDithers Apr 2014 #209

if you're goin to log out to look at the 10,000 ppl you have on ignore, at least spell it right. dionysus Apr 2014 #196

... maddezmom Apr 2014 #197

right back atcha, "madmezon"! dionysus Apr 2014 #198

To Hell with vetting when you can run with a sensational (albeit flase) headline Brother Buzz Apr 2014 #179

don't get into a kerflunkle down by the riffle,you might get hit by a turbine blade from a mile away dionysus Apr 2014 #199

Don't forget the cancerous coyote standing in a cactus with electrocuted feet, or something Brother Buzz Apr 2014 #201

It would do us all a favor is she did that Union Scribe Apr 2014 #194

! dionysus Apr 2014 #200

vw would be stupid to put this into production worldwide. mopinko Apr 2014 #163

They are not th nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #173

still. this will be a major event when it happens. mopinko Apr 2014 #176

It is cafe... nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #185

The car and driver link states that the Golf will be equipped rudolph the red Apr 2014 #189

I suspect we will see a much higher mpg nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #192

I think that is accurate, rudolph the red Apr 2014 #195

Personally, and I hate to be negative nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #202

Decent milage isn't impossible. I get 47 highway with a bone stock 2000 suzuki swift... beevul Apr 2014 #190

I had a Suzuki Swift with the thre banger turbo snooper2 Apr 2014 #217

Thank you for finally editing to remove the vile link. maddezmom Apr 2014 #210

Agreed... SidDithers Apr 2014 #211

And it only took 6 edits! zappaman Apr 2014 #212

But she still left the factually incorrect subject line up Brother Buzz Apr 2014 #213

This is what is amazing here nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #220

What's amazing is you supposedly have all these people on ignore and yet tammywammy Apr 2014 #221

You posted an article written by a guy who, on his site, said... SidDithers Apr 2014 #222

Good, glad you aren't walking in egg shells any longer maddezmom Apr 2014 #223

Wow. zappaman Apr 2014 #224

+1000 Katashi_itto Apr 2014 #225

K & R Raksha Apr 2014 #226